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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Katt @ May 23 2006, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hey i caught a replay of that race ... seems that the only time Oompa put's his foot down is when entering a medium-tight left hander ... never when he going into a right hand corner ...
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Thats right. It is only in the lefthand turns he must change his left foot position _bofore_ the turn. Se below

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>if he fuked up and couldn't get his foot back on the peg that could seriously screw up his gear changes come out of the corner... surely?

If he didnt change his position he would surly .... up

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>mind you i haven't ridden a bike in something like .... 8 years now, so im not one to talk about changing gears quickly or anything.
i really can't see any reason why he would stick out one leg and not the other .... or maybe i didn't see him do it on the right.
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Is his bike set up as standard? ...like is the gears on the left hand side with? Jesus christ, can they even change any of those settings anyways? ... ... im dumb

You are close to the point. The gear shifter is on the standard left hand side but the direction are oposite. Changing down you pull up, changing up you push down. Almost all racers use this configuration, and for a reason:
Consider a left hand turn at close to maximum lean angle and a very long exit, slowly reving up. Suddenly you find your self close to redline as the exit arrives and want to cange gear. With the standard gearing that would men to get your foot under the shifter. Ther would be no room for that.
With the racing configuration you put your foot under the shifter to gear down in front of the turn but must get that foot over the shifter before full lean angle. What you see is that they change position. It's safe to say that both Rossi and Pedrose has had problems getting their boot stuck while doing this. They now make sure they are totally clear oft the peg and shifter when they change position.
Oposite problem in the right hand turns. For a small guy like pedrosa it would take an effort to stretch down under the shifter while leaning into the turn. But in the right hander he can change position on the peg any time. The right foot is only doing braking and is allways over the lever. Never a problem.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ May 23 2006, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If you guys reckon Rossi and Dani are the only guys who do this, better get the dvd's and vcr's out!!


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i think its sumert to do with te lean angle and the gear changer.if you notice its only the left foot that comes off the peg going into a corner,so their feet cant get under the changer when so low to the tarmac an i think they need to hook under by lifting off the peg...ive got tons of motogp coverage on tape so ill take a look to see if the other riders do the same ,but im pretty sure rossi invented that style of riding.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ May 23 2006, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Maybe it's simply becuase he lacked confidence with the problem tyres? I dont recall him doing it that often in other races, and Rossi seems to be the only other rider who does this - and that when he's over cooked it or on the very limit (just as Sete!)

Look closer. Rossi does it often, not all the time, and not allways as clear, but very often. My guess is that when he does it it has to do with a certain sequence and timing comming into the turn. Probably when the last downshift are very close to or in the turn.
 
damn it................I'm going to be watching the riders boots now instead of watching the racing
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ May 22 2006, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>BTW Dani might be only 8 stone in weight but I wouldn't fancy my chances of beating him in an arm wrestle.

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It's all about shifting and comfort. Chances are good that the leg out is just to readjust their foot position after a series of downshifts. That would explain why you generally only see it on left hand turns.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ May 23 2006, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's all about shifting and comfort. Chances are good that the leg out is just to readjust their foot position after a series of downshifts. That would explain why you generally only see it on left hand turns.
I can go with that,Ooost,did it myself on the trike and bikes.
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But Pedrosa seemed to do it a lot in his first few races. I know other riders do it but he was doing it every lap at Jerez
 
Rossi used to do it an awful lot and sometimes still does. It may just be a habit, a technique or he may not be able to help it as he is so small or the chasis isn't set right for him. It's a very strange way to manouver on the bike though.
 
I think HRC would have done all they can top get the Chassis set up for him, If its not right now chances are theyve run outta things to tweak. After all theres only so much they can do to make the bike work for him, now he`s gotta work for the bike, and I think he proved he can in China. Maybe it is just a habbit he`ll get over. He`s going faster and faster and doing it less and less.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ May 25 2006, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He`s going faster and faster and doing it less and less.

it doesn't seem to be getting any less to me.
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he was doing it constantly at Jerez and was at Le Mans too...

For what ever reason he does it, if he caught the bitumen with the sole of his boot at that speed he would be ....... It can't be a good way of taking a corner
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clemson @ May 21 2006, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm sure you all noticed it,Dani's foot off of the peg on almost every corner. I've seen other riders do it, but it it usually a result of some kind of unsettling of the chasis, a mistake or a high side cometh.
I can't believe this is his style. If it is its a bad one and should be corrected. Do you think he is just to small,Melandri isn't much bigger, and he does not have this problem.
When i was watching the Le Mans Grand Prix , anchor said this problems about Pedrosa's short height and his Slick SOFT tyres. We saw Pedrosa resisted very difficult on the motorcycle .
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What's up guys....I think the leg thing is related to counter steering.....of course we all do it to lean the bike into the corner by pushing on the handgrip on the side we want to lean....If you think about it pushing real hard to lean the bike if you're coming in real hot would force that foot off the peg as you push...not for us because most of us don't come into corners at 211 mph....Pedrosa is a small guy, that might just need to throw the body around to muscle the RC211 around a corner...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ May 31 2006, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What's up guys....I think the leg thing is related to counter steering.....of course we all do it to lean the bike into the corner by pushing on the handgrip on the side we want to lean....If you think about it pushing real hard to lean the bike if you're coming in real hot would force that foot off the peg as you push...not for us because most of us don't come into corners at 211 mph....Pedrosa is a small guy, that might just need to throw the body around to muscle the RC211 around a corner...

hey doc.. welcome to the site

so is the general opinion that it just helps pedrosa get the correct balance when conering because he's a lot lighter??
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Best Man @ May 31 2006, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hey doc.. welcome to the site

so is the general opinion that it just helps pedrosa get the correct balance when conering because he's a lot lighter??

Thanks man....
It could be...but I'm not sure its as much balance as it is having to use his body weight to get on that handgrip....as badass as Rossi is, he isn't the biggest guy in the paddock, he's kinda lanky....so he might be doing the same to get the bike to turn in.....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FanDeVale_Turkish fan @ May 30 2006, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>When i was watching the Le Mans Grand Prix , anchor said this problems about Pedrosa's short height and his Slick SOFT tyres. We saw Pedrosa resisted very difficult on the motorcycle .
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anchors dont know shiiiit .... the one in Oz reckoned Oompas foot was slipping off the foot peg the waaaaaaaanker

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Best Man @ Jun 1 2006, 05:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hey doc.. welcome to the site

so is the general opinion that it just helps pedrosa get the correct balance when conering because he's a lot lighter??

yer, welcome doc ... i was satisfyed with the whole gear shift explanation ... coz the balance explanation doesnt really say why he's only doing it on the left hand corners ..
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Katt @ May 31 2006, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>anchors dont know shiiiit .... the one in Oz reckoned Oompas foot was slipping off the foot peg the waaaaaaaanker
yer, welcome doc ... i was satisfyed with the whole gear shift explanation ... coz the balance explanation doesnt really say why he's only doing it on the left hand corners ..
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Certainly gear shifting is part of the foot happing,because it on the left,but perhaps the counter stearing is also part of the equation. As Doc says it takes a lot of omhfh,push, to get it around some of the high speed corners. I would think it would be less tiring to have a good leverage point at your foot,more control over balance,an other reason in the mix.
Would he do it if he had a push bottom gear select?
The comes down to this for me.
i really don't want to like him as much as some other riders, but he is truely riding his ... off that motorcycle.It's so passionatley thilling to watch these riders going for it the way they do. If Dani can win races with his foot flyin out there,then all the power to him. It could be a trade mark.
 
hahahahahahahahaha....Ooompa....hahahahahaha.....lumpa dupity doo....Pedrosas to short for the Honda too....you're right Katt...I hadn't thought of that, right on
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Katt @ Jun 1 2006, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>anchors dont know shiiiit .... the one in Oz reckoned Oompas foot was slipping off the foot peg the waaaaaaaanker

Come on Katt, he`s an ex-football player. They only know two things: Foot and Ball. He was probably so proud that he could say "Foot" during the race, because that`s using half of his total knowledge
 

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