KTM accuses Honda of cheating

Cool Blue · Mar 11, 2016

Jumkie said:
.... if i know, good question. However, the bloke said it was "modest and temporary", I guess that makes it ok? So....make of that what you will. Kinda reminds me of when I was a younger buck and talked a honey into a little action, I told her, just the tip honey, as in like modest and temporary.

Ah ok, so that's what you mean by "technically".
The point is Jums, that it's technically very difficult to exactly limit the revs instantaneously, unless you are really conservative and make the engine super sluggish and no team is going to do that. There will almost certainly be overshoot, but the steady state or static response will comply. I don't know what the accepted principles are in regulating this or what is the general approach from all the teams. Probably not a bad idea to establish that context before passing judgement.

Dr No · Mar 12, 2016

Cool Blue said:
Ah ok, so that's what you mean by "technically".
The point is Jums, that it's technically very difficult to exactly limit the revs instantaneously, unless you are really conservative and make the engine super sluggish and no team is going to do that. There will almost certainly be overshoot, but the steady state or static response will comply. I don't know what the accepted principles are in regulating this or what is the general approach from all the teams. Probably not a bad idea to establish that context before passing judgement.

Not only that, the regs are kinda ambiguous.
The regs don't say Max RPM in acceleration is 13500rpm.
The say something along the lines of "target strategy of rev limiter is 13500rpm"....

Iowegian · Mar 20, 2016

Jumkie said:
I remember there was also a big snafu with the Yamaha R6 claims of revs, turned into a big brouhaha.

The deal with the r6 was they claimed it revved really high (either 16k or 17k, I don't remember. They touted this fact in advertisements and by the tach, it revved to that rpm. When some magazine ran the r6 on the dyno, they found the rev limiter was actually kicking in at 1krpm+ less than what the tach said.
They claimed it was originally planned to rev that high, but they couldn't make it do it, but promo stuff was already out the gate. They offered a buyback. As to how many people took them up on it, I don't know.

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