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He hinted on TV that Domenicali vetoed a renewal, even if Gigi and other guys wanted him to continue
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He hinted on TV that Domenicali vetoed a renewal, even if Gigi and other guys wanted him to continue
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Regarding the Ducati’s and differences, it’s interesting that Jorge chose to run the small wing setup whereas Dovi chose the full wing. It’s usually the other way around. I didn’t notice what Petrucci ran with.
Could it be that Dovi overstressed his hard tyre by putting too much downforce through it?
Could it be that Dovi overstressed his hard tyre by putting too much downforce through it?
His words were something like: “people say that i make excuses. But I only tell the truth. I said before that if they give me what i wanted I will win. Finally Ducati gave me what I asked for and I was right. One side of my heart is very happy, but the other side is sad because if they did it earlier, I would have won much earlier and could tell you that I would be staying”.
Then he and Rossi made some jokes and high fived each other.
Definitely looks like he is on his way out, back to Yamaha and this win was something of a very diplomatic .... you to Ducati.
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Dovi used the full wing and the curved front fairing.
It’s a frankensetup that we have never seen before and is not the one they homologated in the beginning of the year. Looks like this is Dovi’s “One upgrade” of the year.
Edit: Petrux ran no aero. Didn’t see Miller’s bike, he crashed before he made it to the cameras.
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I see. I really hope he stays if he finally tamed the Beast, but TBH I don't want to miss the fight with M1 boys either!
Edit:Are you sure about the quote? Because in motorsport.com quoted him as
"On one side, I am very happy. It’s like probably one of the best races of my life. The best victory of my life. But on another side, I’m sad.
"If I had before these pieces I needed, I could have had more podiums much earlier, I could have won before that race."
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Jee, I never liked the guy, since his F1 days. :thumbdown::thumbdown:
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he ain't staying...and believe me I'd love him to.
Whatever makes him competitive tho. A rider like him MUST be competitive every sunday. Not only for the show, but also because it's fair. Jorge displayed all his talent today and it was just a pleasure for any viewer.
We also got to see a very human side of him after the victory.
George has been very entitled at his peak (Not just him, every other multi time champ including Rossi were), so if nothing, the Ducati Years can be counted as a humbling experience, yet he can now go out with his head held high, on his own terms and start winning a lot again (Hopefully) on an M1.
Umm.. Didn't Capirossi win in his first season with Duc? Catalunya 2003 IIRC.
[URL="https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/897601/1/lorenzo-explains-how-ducati-modifications-boosted-victory-charge[/URL]
Really interesting article. Special note (on fuel tank redesign)
"They believed that we couldn’t use a different one."
They were always stubborn, weren't they? They just don't accept something different than what they want, their philosophy is a bit of an obstacle sometimes.
Really interesting article. Special note (on fuel tank redesign)
"They believed that we couldn’t use a different one."
They were always stubborn, weren't they? They just don't accept something different than what they want, their philosophy is a bit of an obstacle sometimes.
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I agree..in fact the Desmo was developed around the soft option just as Honda and Marc favour the hard. However The current nature of the Michelin tyres demands that they are interpreted in a different way. There is no more the simple delineation a soft or hard option. Each tyre has three or four different compounds in it so a team and rider needs to closely examine the details, data and operational temperatures.
Obviously a softer option is always preferable for Jorge, particularly in conjunction with one of his favourite circuits which Le Mans is not. The track temperature today was 10 degrees up on the Bugatti.
Last year? Lorenzo was only in his sixth race for Ducati and still struggling to find a setting. As I recall, his early charge he attributed more to bravery than speed. His lack of his trademark mid corner speed left him vulnerable and he was still adapting in terms of style and settings. Last year, he maintans that he was preparing for the exit, but that didn't compensate for what was lost in entry and mid turn. To other Ducati riders - such as Dovi and Petrucci, who are hard brakers, the bike was more amenable.
Also, fastest through the trap does not win a race - although it certainly didn't hinder him. Jorge ran reduced aero this weekend, and was down on Dovi in a straight line.
Definitely as you say, the modifications to the tank will have helped, but today was an alignment of preferences and conditions...when that happens we are firmly in the territory of Lorenzo's Land.
People here might have a different take on it but this echoes what other riders had to say about Ducati.
Rossi, when he was getting increasingly frustrated with HRC’s “HRC first, rider second” attitude was actually looking at Ducati for the switch, despite Davide Brivio constantly following him around begging him to give Yamaha a shot and even stalking him during vacations. Rossi went to Borgo Panigale to visit Ducati Corse in person and had a tour and that’s when he realized that their attitude was not much different from HRC’s. That’s when he decided on Yamaha.
In 2010, Stoner told them that what they had was a dog and they should listen to him if they had any hopes of remaining competitive. They didn’t.
Rossi didn’t have much of a choice to shop around in 2010 and we all know how that turned out.
And Cal, say what you will of him, actually tore up a factory contract to go ride for an Indy team.
I thought that things were better since Gigi shitcanned pretty much the entire program and built something grounds up, but it appears that the same mentality still exists in Ducati Corse.
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dude you're right! Which makes sense as that specific post race show is...well is not my favorite thing, but I'm having a rather boring weekend so.
In my defense tho I started watching Grand Prix in 2004 so i didn't remember that
dude you're right! Which makes sense as that specific post race show is...well is not my favorite thing, but I'm having a rather boring weekend so.
In my defense tho I started watching Grand Prix in 2004 so i didn't remember that
If you have video pass, go watch the old seasons.
Capirex was a beast on that Duc.
Thousand likes for this. You summed it up really well.
You can't just lag in business operation practices/methods, or else you'll lose the long game, I hope Italians realise this. And I say Italians, not as a stereotype, but it's pretty much the same with Ferrari (and was until Ross Brawn stepped in).
I also figure there is some kind of central authority rule, I mean the sporting section (Corse in this case) doesn't enjoy many degrees of freedom. Maybe a structural drawback, I don't know.
dude you're right! Which makes sense as that specific post race show is...well is not my favorite thing, but I'm having a rather boring weekend so.
In my defense tho I started watching Grand Prix in 2004 so i didn't remember that
Haha, not a problem, I even think I'm younger than you
, just that I was searching for something recently and I remember that LC won in 2003.Synn, yes! The first "natural talent" on that Duc. I had read somewhere that 2007 was meant for Loris, but I think a crash he had in 2006 (the Catalunya crash or some kind of post-season testing crash ?) was a major drawback to his career -psychology-wise as he wasn't seriously injured-, ended up a rear gunner for Casey.
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