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Is this proof of lesser talent?

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Rossi's action at Sepang in trying to slow Marquez and run him wide to force him to not interfere with the championship, I believe, can not be considered "overly aggressive", because it is within the rules, MM was behind and Rossi was in front, Rossi gave enough space on the left for MM to run wide and not crash, and it was hard racing and not any harder than how MM raced him prior. On top of that, as video evidence showed that it was MM that touched Rossi's foot causing it to jerk forward but MM's first reaction was to lie about it and calling it a "kick".

This brings up an interesting point. Dorna's action in penalizing Rossi causing him to lose the championship and Yamaha's lack of protest at it, suggests that lesser talent needs to somehow find a way to stay competitive, and unfortunately for the sport, this is how they chose to do it. By 'lesser talent', I mean, if you notice, MM almost always crashes out if challenged hard and is incapable of saving his ride; on the other hand greater talent finds ways of surviving the challenge, a la Rossi-MM encounter at Assen. Lorenzo is also in the same mold as MM in that he keeps himself away from being raced hard by staying in front and unless the challenge originates from him but originates from someone else Lorenzo tends to lose confidence and starts going backwards. It is unfortunate that younger guys like MM and JL have given up on their talents and rely on each other and team up with other riders as well as use other off-track antics, like manufacturer bias and Dorna's help, to 'win'. Usually in corporate environments mediocrity becomes evident in folks that are over the hill, but I guess in high speed competitions such as MotoGP it starts early.
 
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Yawn. Rossi got penalised at Sepang because what he did was wrong.

Please please please stop posting threads on this ..... I knew what this post was going to be about before I even opened it...that tells you how much this has ben done to death by new members on here.
 
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Rossi's action at Sepang in trying to slow Marquez and run him wide to force him to not interfere with the championship, I believe, can not be considered "overly aggressive", because it is within the rules, MM was behind and Rossi was in front, Rossi gave enough space on the left for MM to run wide and not crash, and it was hard racing and not any harder than how MM raced him prior. On top of that, as video evidence showed that it was MM that touched Rossi's foot causing it to jerk forward but MM's first reaction was to lie about it and calling it a "kick".

This brings up an interesting point. Dorna's action in penalizing Rossi causing him to lose the championship and Yamaha's lack of protest at it, suggests that lesser talent needs to somehow find a way to stay competitive, and unfortunately for the sport, this is how they chose to do it. By 'lesser talent', I mean, if you notice, MM almost always crashes out if challenged hard and is incapable of saving his ride; on the other hand greater talent finds ways of surviving the challenge, a la Rossi-MM encounter at Assen. Lorenzo is also in the same mold as MM in that he keeps himself away from being raced hard by staying in front and unless the challenge originates from him but originates from someone else Lorenzo tends to lose confidence and starts going backwards. It is unfortunate that younger guys like MM and JL have given up on their talents and rely on each other and team up with other riders as well as use other off-track antics, like manufacturer bias and Dorna's help, to 'win'. Usually in corporate environments mediocrity becomes evident in folks that are over the hill, but I guess in high speed competitions such as MotoGP it starts early.

Yes, Jorge wins by riding faster than everyone else. It is absolutely disgraceful.
 
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Rossi's action at Sepang in trying to slow Marquez and run him wide to force him to not interfere with the championship, I believe, can not be considered "overly aggressive", because it is within the rules, MM was behind and Rossi was in front, Rossi gave enough space on the left for MM to run wide and not crash, and it was hard racing and not any harder than how MM raced him prior. On top of that, as video evidence showed that it was MM that touched Rossi's foot causing it to jerk forward but MM's first reaction was to lie about it and calling it a "kick".

This brings up an interesting point. Dorna's action in penalizing Rossi causing him to lose the championship and Yamaha's lack of protest at it, suggests that lesser talent needs to somehow find a way to stay competitive, and unfortunately for the sport, this is how they chose to do it. By 'lesser talent', I mean, if you notice, MM almost always crashes out if challenged hard and is incapable of saving his ride; on the other hand greater talent finds ways of surviving the challenge, a la Rossi-MM encounter at Assen. Lorenzo is also in the same mold as MM in that he keeps himself away from being raced hard by staying in front and unless the challenge originates from him but originates from someone else Lorenzo tends to lose confidence and starts going backwards. It is unfortunate that younger guys like MM and JL have given up on their talents and rely on each other and team up with other riders as well as use other off-track antics, like manufacturer bias and Dorna's help, to 'win'. Usually in corporate environments mediocrity becomes evident in folks that are over the hill, but I guess in high speed competitions such as MotoGP it starts early.

Is this proof of a lesser intellect?
 
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Yes, Jorge wins by riding faster than everyone else. It is absolutely disgraceful.

Let's be truthful, Jorge wins because the championship leader was forced to start last on the grid.

But you have not touched on the subject why Marc Marquez crashes so much when challenged on the track.
 
Let's be truthful, Jorge wins because the championship leader was forced to start last on the grid.

But you have not touched on the subject why Marc Marquez crashes so much when challenged on the track.

Let's be truthful, Jorge wins because he was mentally stronger, faster and had more points than any other rider after the final race was run.
 
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Let's be truthful, Jorge wins because the championship leader was forced to start last on the grid.

But you have not touched on the subject why Marc Marquez crashes so much when challenged on the track.

The percentage of truthful Rossi fans roughly equivalent to his chances of ever winning another championship.
 
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That's it....l quit. Game over, the end, goodnight, adios, toodle pip. I can't take anymore

It's been nice knowing you all
 
Let's be truthful, Jorge wins because the championship leader was forced to start last on the grid.

But you have not touched on the subject why Marc Marquez crashes so much when challenged on the track.

If we are to be truthful and honest, Rossi started at the back of the grid because he made an illegal move which took another rider out, and could have chosen to refrain from doing so, in which case I can say if I have certainty in regard to the hypothetical equivalent to yours he would still have finished 4th and lost the championship by 8 points instead of 5, given he would have finished 4th at Sepang as well.
 
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If we are to be truthful and honest, Rossi started at the back of the grid because he made an illegal move which took another rider out, and could have chosen to refrain from doing so, in which case I can say if I have certainty in regard to the hypothetical equivalent to yours he would still have finished 4th and lost the championship by 8 points instead of 5, given he would have finished 4th at Sepang as well.
What would Rossi take if he could go back in time, a 4 point lead and no penalty, or the 7 point lead with penalty. The 7 point lead actually gave him more possibilities i think.
 
What would Rossi take if he could go back in time, a 4 point lead and no penalty, or the 7 point lead with penalty. The 7 point lead actually gave him more possibilities i think.
This is the crux of the whole recent matter and the reason behind Rossi's desperation. He was looking good at one time if he went into the last 3 races with a lead, with 2 of the last 3 tracks having been historically good for him, but then things changed. MM stopped crashing out early or mid-race , Pedrosa regained his health and as a consequence his pace, and there were 2, and possibly 3 riders if Iannone is included which he should be given his PI result, other than Jorge who had the pace to beat him. He was hence very keen for those other riders to stay out of things so the last race didn't start with a points difference which would make it a winner take all battle between him and Jorge at Valencia.

I am strongly of the opinion he didn't have the pace to stay with the front 3 at Valencia or the front 2 at Sepang, and if he and his fans are to be believed MM had superior pace to him at Sepang as well, which would have resulted in 2 fourths and losing the championship by 8 rather than 5 points.
 
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This is the crux of the whole recent matter and the reason behind Rossi's desperation. He was looking good at one time if he went into the last 3 races with a lead, with 2 of the last 3 tracks having been historically good for him, but then things changed. MM stopped crashing out early or mid-race , Pedrosa regained his health and as a consequence his pace, and there were 2, and possibly 3 riders if Iannone is included which he should be given his PI result, other than Jorge who had the pace to beat him. He was hence very keen for those other riders to stay out of things so the last race didn't start with a points difference which would make it a winner take all battle between him and Jorge at Valencia.

I am strongly of the opinion he didn't have the pace to stay with the front 3 at Valencia or the front 2 at Sepang, and if he and his fans are to be believed MM had superior pace to him at Sepang as well, which would have resulted in 2 fourths and losing the championship by 8 rather than 5 points.

See... if I had a guy like you teaching in high school, I wouldn't have failed math. Gotta make it relate-able.
 
Let's be truthful, Jorge wins because the championship leader was forced to start last on the grid.

If we are to be truthful and honest, Rossi started at the back of the grid because he made an illegal move which took another rider out, and could have chosen to refrain from doing so, in which case I can say if I have certainty in regard to the hypothetical equivalent to yours he would still have finished 4th and lost the championship by 8 points instead of 5, given he would have finished 4th at Sepang as well.

Plus let's be truthful. Rossi's pace all weekend would have seen him qualify 4th and finish 4, therefore Lorenzo won the championship regardless of Rossi's 'Penalty'. I say 'penalty' because it should have been 0 points at Sepang.
 
So now Dorna is AGAINST Rossi? Holy crap! You must be madly in love with him to be that blind. And forcing a rider wide is NOT allowed anywhere. DORNA turned a blind eye at the kick, but it was impossible to ignore that move, so he got off with the least penalty possible. And yes, I also believe that penalty put him in the best situation to win, but he lost a lot of respect with that desperate move, including mine. He just didn't have the pace to be at the front in Valencia, period. And the worst thing is he could have beat Marquez at Sepang, as he was more likely to have tire issues at the end, winning the same points, but without a penalty... and without ruining his reputation. But he'd have lost anyway, probably in the same order, but just a few seconds behind 3rd, rather than a bunch more.
 
Let's be truthful, Jorge wins because the championship leader was forced to start last on the grid.

But you have not touched on the subject why Marc Marquez crashes so much when challenged on the track.

They call torpedo moves torpedo moves for a reason.
 
Sure Rossi was a gifted racing talent. However over the years, his "rope-a-dope" unconventional style has turned into a jerky guessing game of when, exactly, he is going to take somebody out, always of course somebody who is a threat to him.

Assen this year was all too predictable. Sepang confirmed that is is his modus operandi.

The emperor has no clothes.
 

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