Is this era one of the greats?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ May 4 2009, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well why don't you try putting a woman over the condom too next time Rog.
What does that supposed to mean ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ May 4 2009, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Even on here the amount of interest and comment after what would seem to me to qualify as a fairly classic rossi win seems muted compared to 2 years ago.
Powerslide: Most users ever online was 123 on Apr 13 2009, 03:42 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ May 4 2009, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Powerslide: Most users ever online was 123 on Apr 13 2009, 03:42 AM
Sure, but how many of them were pinky?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ May 4 2009, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sure, but how many of them were pinky?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ May 4 2009, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>oh you people

historically .... when was motogp just about a fixed capacity for the duration of its existence ?

This echelon of moto racing has always changed formula, doesn't matter if we agree or disagree, its about currency ...... you have to get used to it .... or move on if it really upsets you.

Whenever the formula changes there have always been "naysayers", just look at when 500's dissappeared everyone hated 4 strokes. But back then the worst of it was that they did a stupid changeover that allowed some riders on 500 2 strokes and others on 4 stroke 990's. That was a huge performance difference. At least they have all changed together this time.

Look back at when two strokes came in they were pitched against like capacity 4 stokes ...... talk about spreading the field out.

there's still 990cc racing out there, why don't you all follow that if its so great?. Instead of following a formula you don't find suits you?

Barrymachine, you're missing an important phenomenon.

During the 500cc era, the bikes didn't outperform what people could live through.

In the first full year of MotoGP 4-stroke racing there was a death on track. Obviously, I think the venue played a major role, but the MSMA, IRTA, and FIM quickly realized that 4 stroke development was quickly going to end up producing speeds/crashes that human beings couldn't live through.

The 800cc formula has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that motorcycles will quickly develop if restrictions are not placed on performance. The displacement reduction, fuel reduction, and increased weight failed miserably to control the bikes. Only the control tire has proven effective.

Displacement rules are outdated. DORNA/FIM/MSMA/IRTA can either go through some tough times pioneering new solutions, or they can continue banning/controlling everything while delivering a miserable racing product.

On topic: I think this is one of the most talented grids we've seen in a long time, but I can't help but think how epic it would be if they were all riding 990s. Pedrosa, Lorenzo, Hayden, Stoner, Melandri, Rossi, Capirossi, Dovi .................... with the new satellite rules about 20 people would have the equipment to win or at least get on the box.

When 250 riders can come into the series and make an impact their first year, that means the series isn't challenging enough.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L8Braker @ May 5 2009, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>When 250 riders can come into the series and make an impact their first year, that means the series isn't challenging enough.

or they`re very talented

no, there might be one or two great riders in the series but IMO the current formula does not let us see that properly....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 5 2009, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What does that supposed to mean ?

Oh very sorry to confuse you Rog. I do apologise.

What I was suggesting, via a modicum of mirth, was that you are a ......!

So it was odd that you used condoms.

I was therefore attempting to inform you of how you could improve your inevitable wanking future,..... by trying ... with a woman. But I realise thats probably a bit much for any member of the female ... to bear, both gravitationally and aesthetically, as well as the fact that you would no longer be exclusively a ......, nor a virgin anymore I guess.

I also now realise why you, an exclusive ......, would use condoms ...... it stops the centrefold pictures of Rossi sticking together does it? ...... . Good idea, hourly purchase of Rossi magazines must cost a pretty penny.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ May 5 2009, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh very sorry to confuse you Rog. I do apologise.

What I was suggesting, via a modicum of mirth, was that you are a ......!

So it was odd that you used condoms.

I was therefore attempting to inform you of how you could improve your inevitable wanking future,..... by trying ... with a woman. But I realise thats probably a bit much for any member of the female ... to bear, both gravitationally and aesthetically, as well as the fact that you would no longer be exclusively a ......, nor a virgin anymore I guess.

I also now realise why you, an exclusive ......, would use condoms ...... it stops the centrefold pictures of Rossi sticking together does it? ...... . Good idea, hourly purchase of Rossi magazines must cost a pretty penny.
ooooh handbaggy barry name calling again. at least i screw woman and not beat them eh stella !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 6 2009, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ooooh handbaggy barry name calling again. at least i screw woman and not beat them eh stella !

Yeah you keep talking about woman bashing .... I guess thats one of your other gutless pastimes too is it

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ May 5 2009, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah you keep talking about woman bashing .... I guess thats one of your other gutless pastimes too is it
Admission there stella ?

Keep going Rog.

let me guess you hate ....'s too

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ May 5 2009, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Keep going Rog.

let me guess you hate ....'s too
Actually rog is a very liberal poster who has PROVEN his acceptance of a wide variety of axioms, and tolerance of differing view points, you on the other hand are a one trick pony.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ May 5 2009, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Actually rog is a very liberal poster who has PROVEN his acceptance of a wide variety of axioms, and tolerance of differing view points, you on the other hand are a one trick pony.
thanks mate

Anyone for clean burn 500cc two strokes ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ May 6 2009, 05:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Actually rog is a very liberal poster who has PROVEN his acceptance of a wide variety of axioms, and tolerance of differing view points, you on the other hand are a one trick pony.

Yes .... so long as you are a Rossi fan

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ May 6 2009, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes .... so long as you are a Rossi fan
Then why would he hate ....'s ? several here seem to think rossi is gay.

Do you hate all that is rossi and all that support rossi ?
ive read several of your posts and they all seem to be about pro stoner anti rossi and not much else ?

Did you start watching motogp in 07 by any chance ?

not wishing to start a fight just pointing out an observation.

Can we get back on topic here people,I just watch `em ride the bikes,couldn`t really give a ..... about anyones sexuality.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRILL @ May 6 2009, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Can we get back on topic here people,I just watch `em ride the bikes,couldn`t really give a ..... about anyones sexuality.

Exactly!

Umm... hmmm.... errr..... kinda hard to comment, like most hear, being that many were too young to remember the Rainy era, the Schwantz title, the 80's and early 90's in general. Hell, I was 10 when Rossi made his 500cc debut. Before that, I have not ....... clue.

But based on what I see hear, with Rossi in his dominance over the past decade, with the talent level across the field, I'd rank the 2000's as the best time for Grand Prix road racing. Yes, bike counts are at a low, costs are through the roof, and the overall racing has lagged as of late (compared to watching the 990's and some early 90's races with Rainy and Schwantz), but overall, this time for GP racing is at an all time high. People still flock to races in droves to see 18 bikes. There is an all time high number of races. Two, count it two! US Grand Prix.