I know how to fix MotoGP!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BarryMachine @ Sep 5 2007, 05:05 AM) [snapback]89001[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Oh I think I have it worked out for you guys!!! .... this is MotoGP a bike development series with lots of different manufacturers coming up with different ways of dealing with engineering problems, and diferent skilled riders .... you guys need one of those standardised racing leagues like japanese speedway where all the bikes are the same and riders simillar etc. you can even bet on the outcome its that close


That's what we have now. Half the grid is Hondas. Everyone runs 4 cylinders. You are quite the romantic aren't you? MotoGP is engineering creativity It's just another study of game theory and expected values.

Sadly, MotoGP will be fixed again when Honda are competitive. Then half the grid will have a shot at a win. Whatever, the sport needs to be cheaper so teams can run more bikes and encourage privateer entry so we can actually enjoy engineering creativity and good riding at the same time. Racing has been good ever since the power got to be more than what was usable. The 800s have completely ruined that formula.

I'm not really that interested in whether or not the average fan is entertained. The spectacle of the sport is preserved when the rider is paramount. 4 strokes, 4 cylinders, and squeezing every last drop of power out of a tiny engine = flushing money down the toilet and reducing the importance of great riding.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frizzle @ Sep 9 2007, 04:06 AM) [snapback]89861[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Change the rules to make Honda dominant again?
Read your opening post and then tell me what percentage of bias is involved.
No offence but stuff Honda. they have the resources and the riders to fight back all by themselves without moving the goalposts to help em out. Shorten the straight on all long straight tracks except Mugello? There was one particular rider that didn't win that one. Doesn't have anything to do with it does it?

Look the challenge has been well and truly laid down to the Japanese manufacturers and Michelin for the first time in a long long time. I can't believe some of the kneejerk reactions that have been popping up from some fans. It's the first year of the 800's for crying out loud, give it a chance. Ducati are doing a terrific job on a budget that probably is dwarfed by the big teams. Your opinion is how dare they. Lets change all the rules so that they suck again and you can feel better.


Do you guys know how to read?!

SADLY, motogp will be fixed when Honda are competitive again. In other words, if Dorna sits around and waits for Honda to be dominant again, the racing will be fun to watch. If I root for Hayden, do you think its possible for me to argue for the most underhanded manufacturer in the premier motorcycling series? What has Honda done for Hayden but nearly take away the championship he busted his ... to win?

Shortening the straights doesn't help anyone. It just keeps engine costs down. If you only need 200hp to race. There is no reason to spend $10M to squeeze another 5 hp out of your 200hp lump. Cheap engines make it easier for a variety of different teams and riders to enter motogp. The reason more teams aren't in the four stroke era, is because the engines are too expensive to develop.

I love entertaining races, but I don't love having to rely on Honda to get them.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Sep 9 2007, 09:08 AM) [snapback]89897[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
If that was the case then the KR team wouldn't be struggling like they are. Also i heard that Ilmor had quite a strong engine but struggled a lot with chassis dynamics and electronics.

Do KR get the Honda mill for free? I'm almost certain, a majority of their budget goes to get an expensive Honda engine. Plus, KR didn't get any engines in a timely fashion so they had to build a bike without an engine, then finalize the design in just a few months.

I'm not sure about Ilmor, but what you say sounds like a possibility.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Sep 10 2007, 01:15 AM) [snapback]89930[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
stupid thread. if not for the run-away leader stoner, this year would be the closest to date. the top 4 only seperated by a few points.

so take away stoner (not necesarily ducati as deloris is midpack) and it would be one of the most hotly contested championship in some time.

now boring look at f1, whoever qualifies first and gets the best start will win the race. even then only 4 cars and 2 teams can win. non of the top 4 can pass each other on the track, only through the pit stops. talk about boring.


Yes, that's true. If you take away Stoner, the season is a lot more entertaining at this point.

However, you can't deny the fact, that passing has nearly disappeared relative to other seasons (2006 in particular).

I've seen only a handful of good hard passes. Usually when someone gets by, the person who got passed doesn't ever get into position to pass back.

I think passing is huge because it creates more passes. The more riders duel, the slower they go and the easier they are to be caught from behind. I miss that kind of racing.

I'm willing to say that a thread like this is a bit premature, but so far the only innovative passing attempts I've seen this year (besides Rossi) are Elias and Melandri who both ride wide and square the corner a bit to get a good acceleration run. Both of them seem to be battling with injuries and the new Honda.