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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maja @ Dec 6 2008, 05:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No one is to blame except for the current economical crisis, that's why Honda is leaving. It's very sad news and I really hope someone buys the team so it can stay in F1 one way or another.
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Yep, it seems brawn and fry are actively looking out for a buyer and brawn also seems to have made out a engine+KERS deal with ferrari (if the rumours are true).
 
Honda is not going through a recession.....they are just finding the easy way out. It really is sad because Soichiro Honda was truly a racer at heart, he build economy cars/bikes to fund his true passion, which is racing. Right now Honda is lost as far as the racing spirit goes, they need a new leadership, someone who shares the same passion as Soichiro Honda..........sadly its no where to be found. THAT is exactly why I believe they need to get rid of Masumi Hamane and start over from scratch as far as motorbike racing goes because the guy doesn't seem to know what the heck is going wrong, he only tries to put on that leadership image but he aint' fooling anyone. Honda needs to dump him...........him and Pedrosa.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Dec 5 2008, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The new 600cc class isn't helping to keep manufacturers involved/interested either.
they might very well postpone the change over till the economy settles down......which means the 250s will have a little longer life!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maja @ Dec 5 2008, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No one is to blame except for the current economical crisis, that's why Honda is leaving. It's very sad news and I really hope someone buys the team so it can stay in F1 one way or another.
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Well when you mismanage a series by making it a contest of who has a bigger pocket book rather than focus on the more classic sense of racing competition, then yes, the series is to blame. The economic "crisis" (that term is already a misnomer) simply made the fragile stretched out series expose its weakness. Hence we have teams pulling out. Now compare this to say WSBK, which is actually expanding in this economic "crisis". Why do you suppose this is? Perhaps because the series has taken excellent steps in focusing on the competition rather than who can throw more money at a team. Do you understand my point?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Dec 7 2008, 07:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well when you mismanage a series by making it a contest of who has a bigger pocket book rather than focus on the more classic sense of racing competition, then yes, the series is to blame. The economic "crisis" (that term is already a misnomer) simply made the fragile stretched out series expose its weakness. Hence we have teams pulling out. Now compare this to say WSBK, which is actually expanding in this economic "crisis". Why do you suppose this is? Perhaps because the series has taken excellent steps in focusing on the competition rather than who can throw more money at a team. Do you understand my point?

Two thumbs up, Jum!!
 
Jenson Button permanently on the sidelines, where he spends much of his time anyway. I like it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Dec 6 2008, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well when you mismanage a series by making it a contest of who has a bigger pocket book rather than focus on the more classic sense of racing competition, then yes, the series is to blame. The economic "crisis" (that term is already a misnomer) simply made the fragile stretched out series expose its weakness. Hence we have teams pulling out. Now compare this to say WSBK, which is actually expanding in this economic "crisis". Why do you suppose this is? Perhaps because the series has taken excellent steps in focusing on the competition rather than who can throw more money at a team. Do you understand my point?
perfectly put!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Dec 7 2008, 01:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well when you mismanage a series by making it a contest of who has a bigger pocket book rather than focus on the more classic sense of racing competition, then yes, the series is to blame. The economic "crisis" (that term is already a misnomer) simply made the fragile stretched out series expose its weakness. Hence we have teams pulling out. Now compare this to say WSBK, which is actually expanding in this economic "crisis". Why do you suppose this is? Perhaps because the series has taken excellent steps in focusing on the competition rather than who can throw more money at a team. Do you understand my point?

I understand your point, but it's impossible to compare F1 with WSBK. F1 is a worldwide spectacle, more spectacle than sport perhaps, that is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport, the place where the best drivers drive the fastest, most technologically advanced cars in the world. And that obviously costs. I'm not famillar with how WSBK works manufacturer-wise, but that the current recession has hit the car industry very hard is no secret, and since F1 largely consists of car manufacturers the sport will inevitably be vulnerable. F1 has also had rule-changes every other year which of course have caused the development costs to rise even more.

Also, I think Honda's sad demise shows that money isn't everything even in F1, because their budget has been huge, one of the largest in F1, but their results have been one of the worst.

That said, F1 needs to start saving, but saving and maintaining F1's special atmosphere as pinnacle of motorsports is easier said than done. Of course it's possible to standardize everything, it's well underway with the newest engine standardisation, thus making it a spec series, but then it isn't F1 anymore but GP2. And we hardly need two GP2 series.
 
This is terrible news and a big shame for F1. If a buyer can be found for this team they'd certainly be getting a bit of a bargain, but i still haven't got my hopes up. I'll be interested to know how Jenson Buttons career will cope with this blow.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Dec 8 2008, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is terrible news and a big shame for F1. If a buyer can be found for this team they'd certainly be getting a bit of a bargain, but i still haven't got my hopes up. I'll be interested to know how Jenson Buttons career will cope with this blow.

Honda was digging its own graveyard and damaging F1 when they took over BAR Honda and strained relationship with Jordan. They should stick with supplying engines and/or gearboxes only and not venturing into ..... they have no expertise at all. They have had successful years when supplying engines to William and McLaren.

I believe Toyota may also follow suit within 2 years time, if they cannot win the championship and the current economic crisis persists.
 
Apparently Dave Richards of Prodrive is considering taking over the team with backing from arabic prodrive shareholders. I think eastern money will save the team and a bargain will be had, especially as i've heard they'll be using Ferrari engines
 

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