Hayden - most undeserved champ of all times?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (two-stroke @ Oct 17 2008, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ok I'll bite.


So when Nicky scored the most points throughout the 2006 Moto Gp season, he somehow cheated and didnt deserve it, and didnt win it 'square and fair' as you put it.

Or every other team let him have it for a laugh? Or Rossi fell in Valencia because he Hayden carefully placed oil there?

Or maybe Ive been trolled.

Or maybe Pinky has severe psychological and attention issues, and should get off meth, stop seeing his Hong Kong friends, and look into counselling.
HEy and DON't foget the awesome move that ........ put on him at estoril and almost cost him the whole damn thing. Who knows where he would have finished in that race. So as far as it goes even if it just by BEING IN THE TOP 5 and being on the podium most of that year he won the damn thing. IT AINT EASY TO DO PINKY. Nicky has to be of a high caliber to even ride in the series. .... if you want to look at things look at SHITYA NAKANO that ...... has never won a WC in moto GP and has been there for quite some time. HE SUCKS!!! Most of those GP riders from Japan suck and should go back to workin on the bikes instead of ridin them. GO NITRO NORI the one guy from Japan (excluding KATO who was decent) who will have a WC by the end of next year. You can say what you want about Nicky and I know you don't like him but guess what dude? NIcky doesn't like you either.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27 @ Oct 18 2008, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>melandri won his first premier class race when he have bike able to win.

some of melandri races in 2004 on satellite yam like catalunya or assen was far more impressive than those of hayden in 2006
Your point bears no logical relevance to the point I was making. We are discussing cause and effect. When you state that MM had more wins than NH, I was identifying the cause of that phenomenon. You failed to deal with that in any manner at all. Why? 'Coz you can't.

You are a stupid troll who cannot write comprehensibly or coherently.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Oct 17 2008, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>HEy and DON't foget the awesome move that ........ put on him at estoril and almost cost him the whole damn thing. Who knows where he would have finished in that race. So as far as it goes even if it just by BEING IN THE TOP 5 and being on the podium most of that year he won the damn thing. IT AINT EASY TO DO PINKY. Nicky has to be of a high caliber to even ride in the series. .... if you want to look at things look at SHITYA NAKANO that ...... has never won a WC in moto GP and has been there for quite some time. HE SUCKS!!! Most of those GP riders from Japan suck and should go back to workin on the bikes instead of ridin them. GO NITRO NORI the one guy from Japan (excluding KATO who was decent) who will have a WC by the end of next year. You can say what you want about Nicky and I know you don't like him but guess what dude? NIcky doesn't like you either.

I actually think that Haga is a decent rider and has a real good chance on the Duc next year to be WSBK champ.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Oct 18 2008, 03:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I was identifying the cause of that phenomenon. You failed to deal with that in any manner at all.

you aren't identifyed anything but just typed pathetic excuses for hayden mediocricity.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27 @ Oct 18 2008, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>you aren't identifyed anything but just typed pathetic excuses for hayden mediocricity.

How can you declare the world champion mediocre? In what context can that be true? Nicky may have had less wins and points than previous champions, but that is meaningless. He won the title by 5 points, titles have been won by less.

how much podiums he have aftet that travesty title?

oh ...., 2007/08 bike was developed for dani. puig ensured that. random champion, that is hayden.

#27 anit me nor have i made any other profiles.

i think ben can confirm that.

but while i'm here, i must say that hayden will be an absolute flop next year. when he does, i will be back here to enjoy it. untill then, its back to my hibernation status.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27 @ Oct 18 2008, 09:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>how much podiums he have aftet that travesty title?

oh ...., 2007/08 bike was developed for dani. puig ensured that. random champion, that is hayden.

Hayden's poor form since his championship cannot alter the reality of or devalue his 2006 campaign.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Oct 18 2008, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hayden's poor form since his championship cannot alter the reality of or devalue his 2006 campaign.


Jeez Tom, I'm gonna have to agree with you here. This .... has been debated to death on here.

Is #27 the old Toni Elias?

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 17 2008, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Doesn't matter what you say ...., the record books still read as follows:

MotoGP World Champions
2002 Valentino Rossi
2003 Valentino Rossi
2004 Valentino Rossi
2005 Valentino Rossi
2006 Nicky Hayden
2007 Casey Stoner
2008 Valentino Rossi

.... off.

^^^ ....No seriously, do what Austin said.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27 @ Oct 17 2008, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>less points than mental unstable gibernau have in his runner up's seasons

3 less victory than rossi who rode lesser bike

apart from fact that rossi hawe slower bike in 2006 his yamaha that year is synonym for unreliability. from the other side hayden's rc211v have perfect reliability

Haha, what a pathetic loser you are.

Am I in a time warp? This is 2008, isn't it?
We may as well discuss Agostini's merit in his 1967 title against Hailwood
As Walter Villa used to say, in the end what matters is whatever remains written in the books.
So #27... get real, get a life...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Oct 18 2008, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>#27 anit me nor have i made any other profiles.

i think ben can confirm that.

but while i'm here, i must say that hayden will be an absolute flop next year. when he does, i will be back here to enjoy it. untill then, its back to my hibernation status.
I will make an exception and reply to this pinky post. I believe him(?), and plaudits to him for keeping to the terms of his bet. He was nothing if not consistent, and whilst not a hayden fan was by no means a rossi admirer, and also somewhat less grammatically and syntactically challenged than #27. I suspect an interloper from another forum.

I do disagree with both of them though and hope for and expect good performances from hayden on the ducati.

Admins can do IP checks. Ben should be able to see whether or not somebody is a Pink Troll or just a Troll. They can also give out IPbans

I am not even going to comment on anything in here. We are 9 days away from the start of the 2009 season

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Oct 18 2008, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Jeez Tom, I'm gonna have to agree with you here. This .... has been debated to death on here.

Is #27 the old Toni Elias?

Pete
good point pete, same style .
#27 are you from Belgium ?

no.

from colombia

much coc's you know

Like a moth to light I couldn't stop reading, all the time wondering why anyone would give #27 the time of day, then my mouse inexplicably hit the reply button and my fingers started typing and - NO - stop, stop, too close I'm gonna burrrrn.

EDIT: Colombia - see guys not meth, coke!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Oct 18 2008, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>#27 anit me nor have i made any other profiles.

i think ben can confirm that.

but while i'm here, i must say that hayden will be an absolute flop next year. when he does, i will be back here to enjoy it. untill then, its back to my hibernation status.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Oct 18 2008, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I will make an exception and reply to this pinky post. I believe him(?), and plaudits to him for keeping to the terms of his bet. He was nothing if not consistent, and whilst not a hayden fan was by no means a rossi admirer, and also somewhat less grammatically and syntactically challenged than #27. I suspect an interloper from another forum.

I do disagree with both of them though and hope for and expect good performances from hayden on the ducati.


I don't buy it. Is it impossible for a person to have more than one IP address?

Just for the hell of it lets say that #27 is not Pinky. How is he holding up his end of the bargin. Bet was if Hayden signed to Ducati he would leave.

How did he know there was this other poster #27? If he's been checking in and keeping tabs on whats going on, he's not keeping his word. (And where did anyone say that <u>if</u> Hayden has a bad season Pinky can come back? That was not part of the bet)

The only other way he could find out about #27 is if someone sent him a PM him!!

Who would be stupid enough to do that?
Noone thats what I thought.

I still think it is Pinky but here he is just trying to cover his tracks!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Oct 18 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I actually think that Haga is a decent rider and has a real good chance on the Duc next year to be WSBK champ.
YEah and Haga is REALLY DUE! Haga seems like he would be a pretty cool dude to so that makes it even better. I hope he wins cause the field will be very deep next year with Aprilia and BMW comin in.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R1 SF @ Oct 18 2008, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't buy it. Is it impossible for a person to have more than one IP address?

Just for the hell of it lets say that #27 is not Pinky. How is he holding up his end of the bargin. Bet was if Hayden signed to Ducati he would leave.

How did he know there was this other poster #27? If he's been checking in and keeping tabs on whats going on, he's not keeping his word. (And where did anyone say that <u>if</u> Hayden has a bad season Pinky can come back? That was not part of the bet)

The only other way he could find out about #27 is if someone sent him a PM him!!

Who would be stupid enough to do that?
Noone thats what I thought.

I still think it is Pinky but here he is just trying to cover his tracks!
IMO, it is possible R1SF. First connect your PC to ADSL, then grab your PDA and go surf. You'll have 2 different IP address. Oh be aware if Pinky and #27 signed at the same time. He's probably taking my advice .