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It got so bad I finally had to stop operating motorized vehicles.

By mid-afternoon yesterday I found myself unable to think about little else but the incredibly stupid move by Dani Pedrosa that took a machete to Nick Hayden's championship lead. I'd describe my then mood as disappointment sprinkled with lapses into complete astonishment. I went back and watched the incident several times on my DVR, unable at times to really believe that what had happened had, indeed, happened. I went for a ride later in the afternoon and had to turn around after ten minutes because I wasn't concentrating on the ride and my surroundings as much as I was thinking about the incident that saw Pedrosa throw a perfect strike into Nick Hayden's game. I rolled Soup's tricked-out Ducati S4Rs back into the garage and sat down. I tried not to but, in a few minutes, I was back watching the footage again, freezing every frame before the two Repsol riders tumbled into the gravel.

I don't know about you, but my heart stops when riders and bikes tumble into the gravel that close to one another. Yasutomo Nagai was moments from getting up when his bike landed on him and killed him at Assen in 1995.
Clearly, and obviously, Dani Pedrosa's actions were careless, dangerous, ill-conceived and simply stupid. The championship lead once held by Hayden is, of course, the biggest victim in all this, but looking at the footage, Hayden was fortunate not to have suffered grave injuries in the collision and resulting crash. I don't know about you, but my heart stops when riders and bikes tumble into the gravel that close to one another. Yasutomo Nagai was moments from getting up when his bike landed on him and killed him at Assen in 1995.

Dani Pedrosa is human and just as fallible as you or I, but his blunder yesterday had an edge to it that led me to believe it wasn't just simply a mistake. Pedrosa has been quoted widely after the incident as saying he wasn't trying to make a pass when he crashed and took Hayden out. I think you either have to be delusional or a seriously accomplished serial liar to actually mouth those words after an incident like that, caught on video tape no less. Pedrosa met a fork in the road when he entered that corner too quickly and he had the choice of either picking the bike up and running wide or pointing his bike inside Hayden and going for the impossible pass. He kept his bike pointed on the inside line, a clearly suicidal attempt to gain position.

Pedrosa's immediate response was what I found most telling. Normally, when a rider makes a monumental and costly error like that and takes another rider down with him—his teammate no less—his immediate concern is the welfare of the rider that he just put into the dirt. Especially when you have just taken your two existing brain cells, wired them together in parallel and eviscerated your teammate's championship points lead with one round remaining in the championship. When you have screwed up at that level, you walk over, make sure the other rider is okay, or gets the help he needs, and plead for forgiveness.

Pedrosa did nothing like that immediately after the incident. He stalked off, seemingly angry (with Hayden?) and tending to his broken finger. Sure, maybe he was frightened by the enraged Hayden and worried that the American was going to knock him right out of his Garanimals. Fairly dripping with possibility that threat but, you know what? Not really relevant. When you pull a move like that, when your idiocy costs someone his dream, you walk over, apologize, wait for the hit...and you take it. Period. Pedrosa never even ran over and tried to help Hayden re-start his bike.

Pedrosa did come to Hayden's motorhome later, reportedly, and apologized in some fashion. I'd like to think that he did this of his own free will and because his conscience dictated it, but I really wonder if he wasn't goaded into it by higher powers because of the impending public relations disaster he was the focus of. I really wonder at what point he realized the magnitude of the mistake he made and what it has cost Nick Hayden. Hopefully, he was able to discern this on his own and didn't have to be told.

Assuredly, it's important to note that all is not yet lost, that thanks in part to Toni Elias defeating Valentino Rossi yesterday, Nick Hayden still has a decent chance at winning the title at Valencia. And if not ...This incident, in some small way, almost strikes me as quasi-Biblical, in that it may very well cost a good man what he values most in the world through seemingly indecipherable circumstances.

Whatever the outcome, Nick Hayden can ground himself with the knowledge that it's important to know who you are and who you aren't. I've said it several times here before— the Hayden clan are one of the nicest, most honest and forthright families in the paddock. They are unlike many, many people in the paddock.

What are the main differences between Nick Hayden and Dani Pedrosa beyond nationality and background? Well, the major one is that, if Dani Pedrosa had been leading the world championship, Nick Hayden would never have done to him what Pedrosa so casually inflicted on the American.

ENDS
 
I went for a ride later in the afternoon and had to turn around after ten minutes because I wasn't concentrating on the ride and my surroundings as much as I was thinking about the incident that saw Pedrosa throw a perfect strike into Nick Hayden's game. I rolled Soup's tricked-out Ducati S4Rs back into the garage and sat down. I tried not to but, in a few minutes, I was back watching the footage again, freezing every frame before the two Repsol riders tumbled into the gravel.


i think this guy needs to get a life then
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Where did you get that from nickyhayden.com ???

Just seems to me like a very pissed off nickybopper who has forgotten that journalism is about facts and that you should leave your emotions apart when writing an article.

Dani made a huge .... up, right, point taken, all the parts suggesting Dani didn't want to apologize or that he should have gone to push start Nicky's bike, when the hell has that EVER happened ... push him with a broken finger???!!!

It's simply very unfortunate it happened with his teammate and with the championship at stake. If the guy could use his neurone he might have seen that as rookie, crashig out and taking other people out (including your teammate) just happens (look at DePuniet and Stoner's record of crashes).
 
i do want to add that that whole "emotion", or whatever. but lets go back to sportsmanship, like when krjr t boned tamada. do u remember that? and i dunno, as far as i know a journalist can have an opinion, whether u agree w/ it or not. if u check the post its from superbikeplanet.com. friggin forums, it is kind of hard to not come off as a smartass ( no voice or facial gestures, or body language) as one but, hey a spanish publication, a french publication, an italian publication, and an american publication r usually, not always but they can be biased. and at times if i may add, its not a necessarliy a bad thing to have a journalist or writer and whatnot to express emotion. it can give the article more substance. keep in mind, its a write up not a research paper or essay.

i mean it can even be called an article.
 
LoL it may be from superbikeplanet but hes also a hayden.com bopper as well from the sounds of it.. what all these people saying Screw Dani!!! is forgetting that maybe if Hayden didn't SUCK after Laguna he wouldn't be in such a crappy position right now
 
It's just Dean Adams and superBIASplanet.com, not worth the time or effort.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krazy91 @ Oct 17 2006, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>maybe if Hayden didn't SUCK after Laguna he wouldn't be in such a crappy position right now

Kick a man while while he's down right?
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"What are the main differences between Nick Hayden and Dani Pedrosa beyond nationality and background? Well, the major one is that, if Dani Pedrosa had been leading the world championship, Nick Hayden would never have done to him what Pedrosa so casually inflicted on the American." simple.


our opinions r going to change anything, but that was some a lil kamikaze on pedrosa's behalf.

hey man its racing, sh%t happens, just makes it seem like diahrrea happens when u have DP as a teammate.
 
It was a horrible incident, but it was a one off. It's not like Dani's been doing this sorta stuff to Hayden all season
 
It seems that a lot of the people posting their opinions, this thread and others included, can't stand to accept anything that gives Hayden a fair assessment. I've read a lot of apologists for Pedrosa on this site, and even more who have a witless retort about anything written fair on Hayden as coming from some other site like "Hayden.com bobber"; and by doing so somehow makes what is written not creditable. I suspect they do this because they can’t retort to what is said or written on its own merit. Interesting that they call such opinions as “biased” when they are showing their own gross bias themselves about the topic. Hayden got railroaded by his teammate in the sickest way and at the worst possible time, and somehow it’s not ok to call it like it is? Had pedrosa shamefully taken out Rossi instead of Hayden, I’m sure there would have been outrage of epic proportion on this site!!! Actually, from reading many of the threads, and seeing how so many threads are “biased” against Hayden, they might want to rename this site haydenhaterbobbers.com. Actually, after reading so many threads that worship Rossi, they should call it rossibobbers.com.
 
I am being very general here but....
Thats the general consensus around the world. Except Kentucky.
And this being a forum from people all around the world we tend to show those views.
Its a reflection of society. Its all sociology and psychology. I sound like I might know but I don't, I slept through those classes.
 

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