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Foggy on Edwards

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From crash.net:


Four-times World Superbike champion Carl Fogarty believes that former rival Colin Edwards, a double World Superbike champion and Valentino Rossi's current team-mate at the factory Yamaha MotoGP team, has lost the hunger to win.

"Edwards was the one person, when he went to MotoGP, that I looked at and thought 'c'mon Colin'," Foggy told Crash.net. "Because he was basically the closest guy to me when I was in Superbikes, but I think he has...

You know; he's comfortable, he's on easy street, he's a multi-millionaire, he's 30-something now and I question whether the hunger is there from him to go out and win.

"I don't think it is - I know he won't admit that.
"I think Colin would have been better off going to MotoGP, if he had not won a World Superbike title, two or three years earlier. But obviously that wasn't possible for him.

"I just feel that it's difficult for riders, when they're in their early 30s and are extremely wealthy anyway, to find the motivation to beat a 26-year-old, in the shape of Rossi," Carl explained.

During his three seasons in MotoGP - with Aprilia, Telefonica Honda and Gauloises Yamaha respectively - Edwards has taken five podium finishes, with a best race finish of second (three times). The Texan will remain at Yamaha next season.




God this guy annoys me. How could you put .... on a rider like Edwards? Especially after he finished 4th last season and is still very capable of winning. Fogarty's just a bitter old fart. I mean, apart from the fact that he's up himself, he's god FIG JAM syndrome (Fk I'm Good Just Ask Me), and he just puts .... on everyone and anyone.
He must sit there each week and think "Hmm, what GP rider will I bash this week?" Why else would he come out and put .... on Edwards like that.
If the .... had half a brain he'd be working his ... off trying to get his Petrojunk team good results, like King Kenny is in GP (Credits to KR Honda, they're putting a lot of effort into the worlds top racing class on a shoestring budget, that really impresses me).
I suspect that one of the main reasons the Petronas team don't do well is (As well as having crappy bikes), they've got bad, pig headed, distracted, bitter managment.

Shut up Carl, no-one wants to hear your crap anymore
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I think it's self defense, if Edwards doesn't win in MotoGP and he was at Foggy's level it means Foggy himself wouldn't have been succesful in GPs. So he comes up with this crap to try and protect his image.

I think the guy has a lot of anger inside because he never made it to GPs.
 
If Colin Edwards doesn't have the will to win at age 32 or 33, where ever he is at now, what does that say about the elder Fogarty? It sounds to me like if he says Edwards doesn't have the hunger to win then why should Foggy have to make the effort to try and turn around the Petronas.

You know what Carl, if you're such an expert why are you busy running second/third tier teams instead of writing articles or sitting in the commentary box where this sort of criticism belongs. Seems like he has enough on his plate with his FP1 project to keep anyone busy, even Burgess, but Carl always finds time to trash talk any SBK rider regardless of his level or accomplishments. Piss off.
 
He's such a tool, isn't he?
That's my point Ooost. I think he should put more energy towards his job, instead of taking the piss out of whoever he wants.
And he thinks he's top ..... I can't get over it, taking the piss outta Edwards. I got a lot of respect for Edwards. Foggy claims to be this big SBK champ-king. True, he's won his fair share of titles, But I'd love to see foggy in his prime on a Honda VTR take the chapionship from Troy Bayliss, defending Champion and SBK ace on a Ducati.
I think he does more motoGP rider bashing. That's pure jealousy. Grumpy old ........ He must think being a multiple SBK champ give him the right to say what he wants about anyone. Mind you, Corser has just become one too, and I've noticed his comments are getting more and more bitter, maybe its a disease, and Edwards must have some sorta immunity to it. "Multiple SBK champion syndrome" What do you think?
 
Multiple SBK Champion Screwed Their GP Career/Never Had A GP Career Syndrome. That's MSBKCSTGPCNHAGPCS if you like acronyms.
 
all along i said i dont think foggy had the style to make it gp and i know he rings the neck outa the bike but thats the problem, if he wanted to succeed then his riding style must b changed like so many wsb riders.. but he did do well at donny riding that bike i cant remember at moment u know the same one randy rode and mladin?
 
Wow! i didnt know there was so much hatred towards Foggy!

Personally i dont agree with what he said about Colin. He does have the hunger, espaecially from what he last said at qatar- he is really pleased with his progress and has adapted to his new style very well.

I also agree that if Foggy had not had that carreer ending crash, and had gone to motogp he would have struggled to adapt.

What i dont agree with is the hatred towards him. hes just a straight talking lancastrian that obvioulsy is a bit arrogant but hey! i dont hate him! he gave britain 4 world titles.
 
ah he's just a .... stirer!
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at least edwards is in gps. somethin the the foggy blow hole never did. he should not be crtizising riders that are competing at a level he'll never understand! so shut ya yap foggster!
 
hey he did have a go and the bike i forgot was gagiva when niel mac beat himinto 3rd when foggy bike gave up, hell of a ride id have to admit...
 
I missed this thread!!

Well, I'm gonna stick up for Carl here, yes hes a gob ....., but theres plenty of those in racing these days! I think peoples comments get blown up by the media guys, this was prob just a regular interview, with the interviewer knowing that Carl likes to spout .....

So, Edwards, I respect this guy, hes fast - on his day, but I think theres a hint of truth behind foggys comments. I think Edwards is suffering from Barrichello syndrome (seen as we are talking about syndromes!), that is you have a multiple world champ - seemingly unbeatable - as you team mate. I'm sorry, but Edwards was outshined in every gp last year - except Laguna........for obvious reasons (wonder how Rossi et al with fair at LS this year?).......he's sponsor fodder! A nice guy, with a huge following and a consistent top 5-8 racer.........he aint gonna motoGP champ thats for sure!

Dont get me wrong, hes a huge talent and THAT race between edwards and Bayliss in WSB was one of the best races I've ever watched.

But yeah, theres no question el Foggo is jealous..........but you have to admit theres an element of truth behind his comments?
 
The comments might have a small bit of truth in them, but it's mostly Foggy assuming stuff and shooting his mouth off.
In a world without Rossi, Edwards would be winning races, maybe not the championship, but definately taking some wins.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Feb 8 2006, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Multiple SBK Champion Screwed Their GP Career/Never Had A GP Career Syndrome. That's MSBKCSTGPCNHAGPCS if you like acronyms.

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Ooost you should be a shrink, that's good stuff
 
In Carl's defense I will say he is a very, very talented rider and the media does like to exaggerate his words. I just get tired of hearing of him picking on every other rider out there today. He knows the media will blow his words out of proportion so why not just keep his mouth shut?

As far as Edwards goes he's real tough to gauge. He's always very confident about achieving good results, especially in his stints with Honda, but since his move to Yamaha he has quieted down. I have to wonder if they want him to keep quiet because he's very sponsor UNfriendly or if he's just being quiet himself because he knows who his teammate is. Either way, Ben may be on to something. Something is different with Edwards since he left Honda in 2002 and 2004.
 
Edwards is in this position:

It's like being a classmate to Jesus in carpentry class, no matter how well you do, its never quite good enough.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xB Rida @ Feb 9 2006, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Edwards is in this position:

It's like being a classmate to Jesus in carpentry class, no matter how well you do, its never quite good enough.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Feb 9 2006, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In a world without Rossi, Edwards would be winning races, maybe not the championship, but definately taking some wins.
i'm afraid that this is not the case. if u take rossi out of every race since edwards has been in gps, he still would have 0 wins. his excuse of being on a diferent bike each season does not hold water either. when he got the honda, after the aprilla, he should have show something there, but he was mediocre at best. unlke melandri when he switched from yamaha to honda. now that was impressive! edwards had everybody thinkin he was gonna do something like that. buit he did'nt even come close. i think he's lost a bit of his hunger.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossi 46 winner @ Feb 9 2006, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>so edwards woudnt have won at donny 2004?
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I do believe that Carl Fogarty would be up with Rossi when he was in his prime.
Did any of you watch him riding the TT?
I watch him on the mountain section when he was riding the loctite Yamaha and racing the late great Steve Hislop.
He was super smooth and lighting fast, in fact he made Joey Dunlop look like a Clubman.
He won on the most demanding racing circuit in the world and also won on some of the worlds most demanding short circuits.
The man can ride, give him some respect.
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No denying the fact the man can ride. I'll question wheter or not he could have kept up with Rossi. The problem I have with Fogarty is him critiquing riders who are at a level he never reached himself. If he was an ex GP star criticizing Colin Edwards then I would just think he's an old grump but I would let it slide because he's been there. Carl has never been there, not on a permanent basis anyways.
 

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