Fines for Rossi, Lorenzo, Toseland, Edwards.

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chopperman

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• Aug 30, 2008

• #1

Yamaha riders Valentino Rossi, Jorge Lorenzo, James Toseland and Colin Edwards have all been fined for performing practice starts after the chequered flag at the end of MotoGP qualifying at Misano on Saturday.

"In the MotoGP class practice starts are not permitted after the chequered flag at the end of the qualifying practice," reads article 1.21.16 of the FIM Road Racing World Championship Grand Prix Regulations.

Race Direction thus decided to penalise each rider with a fine of USD 1,000.


No appeal has been lodged and the decision of Race Direction is final.

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dannyisnow

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England - Yorkshire

• Aug 30, 2008

• #2

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 30 2008, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yamaha riders Valentino Rossi, Jorge Lorenzo, James Toseland and Colin Edwards have all been fined for performing practice starts after the chequered flag at the end of MotoGP qualifying at Misano on Saturday.

"In the MotoGP class practice starts are not permitted after the chequered flag at the end of the qualifying practice," reads article 1.21.16 of the FIM Road Racing World Championship Grand Prix Regulations.

Race Direction thus decided to penalise each rider with a fine of USD 1,000.


No appeal has been lodged and the decision of Race Direction is final.

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Oh christ... looks like where getting into F1 territory here....

 

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an4rew

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• Aug 30, 2008

• #3

ROFL... thats just spare change to those guys.

Isn't it safer to do a practice start after the flag

 

Pigeon

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Rovrum S,Yorks Eng

• Aug 30, 2008

• #4

lol all Yams its petty but rules are rules so maybe should everyone have started the MotoGp race in Brno lol Qualifying!! maybe Casey/Duc got on to race direction.!

 

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smaid

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Devon

• Aug 30, 2008

• #5

$1000

 

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chopperman

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• Aug 30, 2008

• #6

who gets the fine money ? riders for health ? ezys new car fund ?

i thought they always did there practice starts at the end of quali and free practice

 

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smaid

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Devon

• Aug 30, 2008

• #7

I wanted to ask who got the money as well, but thought I'd look silly and it'd be common knowledge. Do they issue fines often?

 

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chopperman

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• Aug 30, 2008

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (smaid @ Aug 30 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I wanted to ask who got the money as well, but thought I'd look silly and it'd be common knowledge. Do they issue fines often?
well i remember in the back of my mind that rossi got fined for breaking the pit lane speed limit which i think is 60mph, i seem to remember rossi did like 153mph on the back wheel. im sure at the time they spoke of fine money being donated to charities like riders for health, not sure if that was a one off tho and it was a long time ago. i have also heard from somewhere i cant recollect that they get fined for post race celebrations and wheelies ect, i dont know if theres any truth in that as i cant remember where i heard it, prob eurosport.

 

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sarto

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• Aug 30, 2008

• #9

So maybe Yamaha have some new starting software/settings that they wanted to try.

 

Kez_91

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• Aug 30, 2008

• #10

How petty is that!!!

I really hope that money gets donated to charity!

 

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Craig3089

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England

• Aug 30, 2008

• #11

Don't wanna make myself sound an ..... here, but surely the article must be wrong. It must mean before the flag, not after, because everybody does a practise start at the end of the session. And it's been this way ever since i can remember. I've never heard of someone being fined for practise starts, hence why i think the article must mean they did it before the flag.

 

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#46

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• Aug 30, 2008

• #12

Then I guess Rossi should've been fined all the time ??!! Since AFAIK he's always doing his practice start after the flag.

 

Andy Roo

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Tweed Valley Australia

• Aug 30, 2008

• #13

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kez_91 @ Aug 31 2008, 08:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How petty is that!!!

I really hope that money gets donated to charity!

My eldest daughter is 1 year younger than you and that is what she'd say.

$1000 - I've spilled that on a good night.

 

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kieran

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Hell

• Aug 30, 2008

• #14

The only thing this highlights is how limp wristed the fine is. Obviously anyone who thinks he needs to practice his starts is going to do it, as the fine is a slap on the wrist and probably paid for by the teams anyway.
Another ....... useless law.

 

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Gaz

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Maitland way

• Aug 30, 2008

• #15

It is a rule and therefore must be in place for a reason which to me does not make the imposition of the rule petty in any way.

But, to only warrant a fine of $1000 US does show that either the rule is not based upon rider safety or anything of that nature, else one would expect taht the fine would have been larger. On that note, when was the rule implemented as I am sure that Pedrosa tried a practice start last year at Phillip Island at the end of the session.






Garry

 

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an4rew

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N. Ireland

• Aug 30, 2008

• #16

The fines should be way higher, then they would think more about doing stuff.

and yea the fine was so small, they could well have known and did it anyway as the race is more important than being fined.

Same with football...

 

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kieran

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• Aug 30, 2008

• #17

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Aug 31 2008, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It is a rule and therefore must be in place for a reason which to me does not make the imposition of the rule petty in any way.

But, to only warrant a fine of $1000 US does show that either the rule is not based upon rider safety or anything of that nature, else one would expect taht the fine would have been larger. On that note, when was the rule implemented as I am sure that Pedrosa tried a practice start last year at Phillip Island at the end of the session.






Garry
Came in at the end of July, according to Julian Ryder.

 

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Gaz

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• Aug 30, 2008

• #18

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Aug 31 2008, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Came in at the end of July, according to Julian Ryder.


Ta.

Makes it interesting as to the reasoning behind the imposition of the rule but may go some way to explaining the (lack of) size of the fine.





Garry

 

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michaelm

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sydney australia

• Aug 30, 2008

• #19

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sarto @ Aug 30 2008, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So maybe Yamaha have some new starting software/settings that they wanted to try.
This would seem to be the logical conclusion to draw. When are they allowed to practise starts under the current rules? I would have thought this could be done on any bit of tarmac and not need to be specific to a particular race track or section thereof.