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ducati worried?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Mar 17 2010, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Some continue to push the boundaries of fanboy delusions ever further than was ever thought possible
Look in the mirror when you say that.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Mar 18 2010, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes, you are on to something. Stoner is older, wiser and has a fantastic bike. That is what Yamaha might not want to think about too much. Stoner, on an easy to ride powerful fast machine. They saw what he could do with the previous versions. No wonder Rossi is pounding it so hard. It wouldn't be too hard to see Stoner completely reverse the role with Rossi. He can just hang behind him until Rossi screws up from pushing so hard. That is what I'd do.
Yes, you are on to something as well with Rossi is getting younger, stupid and has a slow bike.
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and you say we boppers are crazy...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>No need for extremes; its not about getting rid of them as it is about eliminating the Red challenge to the Golden Goose
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Mar 17 2010, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They saw what he could do with the previous versions. No wonder Rossi is pounding it so hard. It wouldn't be too hard to see Stoner completely reverse the role with Rossi. He can just hang behind him until Rossi screws up from pushing so hard. That is what I'd do.
I'm no Bopper, but I think it would be a bit far fetched to expect Rossi to break down under pressure. Sure there have been moments, like Valencia 06 or Donny & Indy 09, but I wouldn't bank on it. Seriously, I think the "mind game" theory is just us spectators making hay. I really don't think much mind games have ever existed at any point really. Claims of sandbagging or reverse psychology is a device we use to make sense of events. I don't think Rossi was pushing hard, he was simply dialed in. I don't think Stoner was laying low either.

But then again, maybe Nicky has been 'sandbagging' the last three years and is now gonna catch everybody sleeping... brahahahahaha
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (slev7n @ Mar 17 2010, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and you say we boppers are crazy...
You're right, that was a bit crazy, how about: No need for extremes; its not about getting rid of them as it is about <strike>eliminating</strike> taming the Red challenge to the Golden Goose.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Mar 18 2010, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hmmmmmmmmmm.......... The nine time world champion, who is wildly famous for and extremely successful at mind games- being outplayed by a very inconsistent, 4 th placed challenger who is not known for being successful at any mental warfare whatsoever ( in fact the opposite)..........

Some continue to push the boundaries of fanboy delusions ever further than was ever thought possible

Thanks for your valuable and consistent contribution to the discussion.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 18 2010, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thanks for your valuable and consistent contribution to the discussion.

just giving you some factual based commentary for something different here
 
I doubt Ducati is worrying. Undoubtedly Rossi is pushing extra hard to show he's
not too old to compete. And he's riding a bike that is essentially unchanged from
last year. Stoner on the other hand is riding with a very different engine and has
to adjust to it. I'm betting he will acclimate to it in a short time. That's what he's
good at.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 17 2010, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You're right, that was a bit crazy, how about: No need for extremes; its not about getting rid of them as it is about <strike>eliminating</strike> taming the Red challenge to the Golden Goose.
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yeah thats more likely but i also thought they were against rosi when they banned michelin's overnight specials , went to 800 (midget bikes) and even with the long life engines since yamaha riders are the heaviest on the grid
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Mar 17 2010, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes, you are on to something as well with Rossi is getting younger, stupid and has a slow bike.
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He's smart experienced and older and the bike is a gem. Stoner is right in his prime and if the bike is as good as it looks? Look what other manufacturer has literally put a new machine on the grid and had it in the top two second test? Actually both factory riders 2nd and 3rd. Certainly Yamaha is not in that position even with the great M1. That is something. Now if Rossi is obsessing about being the quickest Stoner should let him think he is. They are only really racing each other so one guy has to lead and as we have seen that is not always the best strategy. Time is one somebodies side.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 17 2010, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm no Bopper, but I think it would be a bit far fetched to expect Rossi to break down under pressure. Sure there have been moments, like Valencia 06 or Donny & Indy 09, but I wouldn't bank on it. Seriously, I think the "mind game" theory is just us spectators making hay. I really don't think much mind games have ever existed at any point really. Claims of sandbagging or reverse psychology is a device we use to make sense of events. I don't think Rossi was pushing hard, he was simply dialed in. I don't think Stoner was laying low either.

But then again, maybe Nicky has been 'sandbagging' the last three years and is now gonna catch everybody sleeping... brahahahahaha

Rossi was clearly pushing. Can Nicky repeat in Qatar? Stoner can do better. Can Rossi? So many unanswered questions.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Mar 18 2010, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi was clearly pushing. Can Nicky repeat in Qatar? Stoner can do better. Can Rossi? So many unanswered questions.
All these unanswered questions will be answered in next couple of days.
 
Strange I thought everyone had a seriously revised machine this year due to the engine rules, Yamaha has also made considerable changes yet in this thread you would think ducati and stoner were the only ones with a new bike......... Maybe it's just the prelude to another year of excuses
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Mar 18 2010, 04:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>......... Maybe it's just the prelude to another year of excuses
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This is a surprising post from you. I would have thought you would be hoping 2010 is not like 2006 or 2007
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But then again, maybe Nicky has been 'sandbagging' the last three years and is now gonna catch everybody sleeping... brahahahahaha
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Ha ha great
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Mar 18 2010, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>just giving you some factual based commentary for something different here
Give up...
 
Qatar is a Duc track so take the result with a pinch of salt.
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if the Goat does well in this test..then Duc will be worried..
 
This is still testing. I know making a meal of the handful of laps these guys complete every six weeks in the winter is kind of our thing, but doesn't anyone else think we're making too much of this? Nobody is sandbagging. With such limited testing and the new engine regulations, these guys can't afford to play games. These tests are about learning as much as possible about this year's evolutions of M1s, GP10s, RC212Vs and GSVRs. Because if they don't get it sorted now, they'll spend three-quarters of a season playing catch-up (see Nicky Hayden 2009).

To be honest, I think with the engine restrictions, this winter's testing should give us the most accurate picture of what the season could look like in ages. I don't think there's been an off-season with such an emphasis on race pace since the switch to four-strokes. Everyone is curious about reliability, so there should be a lot of guys running multiple race distances over the course of these few days to find out what sort of reliability they can expect. In theory, we should be looking at times that will reflect the true order.

Obviously my opinion is based in theory and in reality there has likely been a lot of engineering work and testing engines on benches to begin to understand their reliability, but I don't think I'm too far off.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Mar 17 2010, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>they should be more worried bout what every Ducati owner has worried bout since the inception of the Ducati brand.......reliability
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Never had any reliability issues with my Duc. Plus what bike was one of the most recent in years to blow a motor? I seem to remember Vale' having that happen not a Ducati.
 

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