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they should be more worried bout what every Ducati owner has worried bout since the inception of the Ducati brand.......reliability
Would be good if Nicky could sort out that Desmo. Seeing him beat Pedrosa on a regular basis would be sweet.
It will be very interesting to see how Stoner fare at Qatar.
Is what we've seen so far the result of new rules and a tuned down big bang Ducati or is it like Preziosi says, Rossi push harder than ever?
No doubt Qatar will give us if not the answer at least more information.
Is what we've seen so far the result of new rules and a tuned down big bang Ducati or is it like Preziosi says, Rossi push harder than ever?
No doubt Qatar will give us if not the answer at least more information.
If you push too hard you're gonna fall and any resulting injury will ruin the season. Just ask Jorge.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Mar 17 2010, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It will be very interesting to see how Stoner fare at Qatar.
<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%Is what we've seen so far the result of new rules and a tuned down big bang Ducati or is it like Preziosi says, Rossi push harder than ever?
No doubt Qatar will give us if not the answer at least more information.
the answer is shortly forthcoming.
<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%Is what we've seen so far the result of new rules and a tuned down big bang Ducati or is it like Preziosi says, Rossi push harder than ever?
No doubt Qatar will give us if not the answer at least more information.
the answer is shortly forthcoming.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Mar 17 2010, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It will be very interesting to see how Stoner fare at Qatar.
Is what we've seen so far the result of new rules and a tuned down big bang Ducati or is it like Preziosi says, Rossi push harder than ever?
No doubt Qatar will give us if not the answer at least more information.
That's an interesting question. Its my contention that Dorna's rules have been actively trying to write rules detrimental to Ducati. Do you remember when they proposed the rev limit? Why didn't they just say we want to penalize Ducati's innovation?
If I were Ducati, I would be worried too. Stoner has been usually faster in the last two years, yet Rossi has bagged the title. Now imagine a prospect of Rossi being the fastest? Be afraid, be very afraid.
Is what we've seen so far the result of new rules and a tuned down big bang Ducati or is it like Preziosi says, Rossi push harder than ever?
No doubt Qatar will give us if not the answer at least more information.
That's an interesting question. Its my contention that Dorna's rules have been actively trying to write rules detrimental to Ducati. Do you remember when they proposed the rev limit? Why didn't they just say we want to penalize Ducati's innovation?
If I were Ducati, I would be worried too. Stoner has been usually faster in the last two years, yet Rossi has bagged the title. Now imagine a prospect of Rossi being the fastest? Be afraid, be very afraid.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 17 2010, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>the answer is shortly forthcoming.
Maybe. Stoner has always been very strong here so even if there is a reduced advantage I expect him to be on top here.
Maybe. Stoner has always been very strong here so even if there is a reduced advantage I expect him to be on top here.
Casey may have to push the front a little more than he wants to on the Duke,we could see him fall 3 or 4 times for that reason.Either that or he`s gonna be throwing some spectacular rear action like he did at PI last season,the latter wiuld be favourable,yes?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 17 2010, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's an interesting question. Its my contention that Dorna's rules have been actively trying to write rules detrimental to Ducati. Do you remember when they proposed the rev limit? Why didn't they just say we want to penalize Ducati's innovation?
Yeah, there's nothing Dorna would love more than Ducati pulling out of MotoGP
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>If I were Ducati, I would be worried too. Stoner has been usually faster in the last two years, yet Rossi has bagged the title. Now imagine a prospect of Rossi being the fastest? Be afraid, be very afraid.
Worst case this year could become an all Yamaha podium, let's hope Ducati still have some speed in that thing and that Honda can sort things out.
Yeah, there's nothing Dorna would love more than Ducati pulling out of MotoGP
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>If I were Ducati, I would be worried too. Stoner has been usually faster in the last two years, yet Rossi has bagged the title. Now imagine a prospect of Rossi being the fastest? Be afraid, be very afraid.
Worst case this year could become an all Yamaha podium, let's hope Ducati still have some speed in that thing and that Honda can sort things out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Otis Driftwood @ Mar 17 2010, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Casey may have to push the front a little more than he wants to on the Duke,we could see him fall 3 or 4 times for that reason.Either that or he`s gonna be throwing some spectacular rear action like he did at PI last season,the latter wiuld be favourable,yes?
As long as he don't start with the even more spectacular slides that he and Jorge had at Laguna Seca. That would not be favorable.
As long as he don't start with the even more spectacular slides that he and Jorge had at Laguna Seca. That would not be favorable.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Mar 17 2010, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, there's nothing Dorna would love more than Ducati pulling out of MotoGP
You should know by now, Dorna are will to do anything for a certain player, ie get rid of Michelin.
You should know by now, Dorna are will to do anything for a certain player, ie get rid of Michelin.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 17 2010, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You should know by now, Dorna are will to do anything for a certain player, ie get rid of Michelin.
I think that losing 5 of the 17 bikes on the grid would be something that even Ezpeleta can see would be undesirable.
I think that losing 5 of the 17 bikes on the grid would be something that even Ezpeleta can see would be undesirable.
The Ducati is a significantly different bike in 2010 compared to 2009. To expect them to be at the front immediately is unfair. To be second is phenomenal.
I also think that there is some sandbagging going on and these comments by FP just cement that for me. With the engine rules there is much less chance for development through the season so if Ducati can lull Yamaha into a false sense of security then it will be potential 6 races before they can come out with a more powerful engine to try and match Ductai. This would present Ducati with a significant advantage.
Perhaps Nicky being so much closer to Stoner's pace is because he is not sandbagging and in reality Stoner has a second or so up his sleeve which possibly won't become apparent until the second round because everyone expects him to be fast at Qatar.
Remember Stoner is known for reading boards like these so if we can come up with these types of strategies don't you think he can too. Everyone has said that he keeps getting out foxed by the fox. Well just maybe he is now trying to be the fox.
I also think that there is some sandbagging going on and these comments by FP just cement that for me. With the engine rules there is much less chance for development through the season so if Ducati can lull Yamaha into a false sense of security then it will be potential 6 races before they can come out with a more powerful engine to try and match Ductai. This would present Ducati with a significant advantage.
Perhaps Nicky being so much closer to Stoner's pace is because he is not sandbagging and in reality Stoner has a second or so up his sleeve which possibly won't become apparent until the second round because everyone expects him to be fast at Qatar.
Remember Stoner is known for reading boards like these so if we can come up with these types of strategies don't you think he can too. Everyone has said that he keeps getting out foxed by the fox. Well just maybe he is now trying to be the fox.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Mar 17 2010, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think that losing 5 of the 17 bikes on the grid would be something that even Ezpeleta can see would be undesirable.
No need for extremes; its not about getting rid of them as it is about eliminating the Red challenge to the Golden Goose.
No need for extremes; its not about getting rid of them as it is about eliminating the Red challenge to the Golden Goose.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 17 2010, 07:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Ducati is a significantly different bike in 2010 compared to 2009. To expect them to be at the front immediately is unfair. To be second is phenomenal.
I also think that there is some sandbagging going on and these comments by FP just cement that for me. With the engine rules there is much less chance for development through the season so if Ducati can lull Yamaha into a false sense of security then it will be potential 6 races before they can come out with a more powerful engine to try and match Ductai. This would present Ducati with a significant advantage.
Perhaps Nicky being so much closer to Stoner's pace is because he is not sandbagging and in reality Stoner has a second or so up his sleeve which possibly won't become apparent until the second round because everyone expects him to be fast at Qatar.
Remember Stoner is known for reading boards like these so if we can come up with these types of strategies don't you think he can too. Everyone has said that he keeps getting out foxed by the fox. Well just maybe he is now trying to be the fox.
Yes, you are on to something. Stoner is older, wiser and has a fantastic bike. That is what Yamaha might not want to think about too much. Stoner, on an easy to ride powerful fast machine. They saw what he could do with the previous versions. No wonder Rossi is pounding it so hard. It wouldn't be too hard to see Stoner completely reverse the role with Rossi. He can just hang behind him until Rossi screws up from pushing so hard. That is what I'd do.
I also think that there is some sandbagging going on and these comments by FP just cement that for me. With the engine rules there is much less chance for development through the season so if Ducati can lull Yamaha into a false sense of security then it will be potential 6 races before they can come out with a more powerful engine to try and match Ductai. This would present Ducati with a significant advantage.
Perhaps Nicky being so much closer to Stoner's pace is because he is not sandbagging and in reality Stoner has a second or so up his sleeve which possibly won't become apparent until the second round because everyone expects him to be fast at Qatar.
Remember Stoner is known for reading boards like these so if we can come up with these types of strategies don't you think he can too. Everyone has said that he keeps getting out foxed by the fox. Well just maybe he is now trying to be the fox.
Yes, you are on to something. Stoner is older, wiser and has a fantastic bike. That is what Yamaha might not want to think about too much. Stoner, on an easy to ride powerful fast machine. They saw what he could do with the previous versions. No wonder Rossi is pounding it so hard. It wouldn't be too hard to see Stoner completely reverse the role with Rossi. He can just hang behind him until Rossi screws up from pushing so hard. That is what I'd do.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Mar 17 2010, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The Ducati is a significantly different bike in 2010 compared to 2009. To expect them to be at the front immediately is unfair. To be second is phenomenal.
I also think that there is some sandbagging going on and these comments by FP just cement that for me. With the engine rules there is much less chance for development through the season so if Ducati can lull Yamaha into a false sense of security then it will be potential 6 races before they can come out with a more powerful engine to try and match Ductai. This would present Ducati with a significant advantage.
Perhaps Nicky being so much closer to Stoner's pace is because he is not sandbagging and in reality Stoner has a second or so up his sleeve which possibly won't become apparent until the second round because everyone expects him to be fast at Qatar.
Remember Stoner is known for reading boards like these so if we can come up with these types of strategies don't you think he can too. Everyone has said that he keeps getting out foxed by the fox. Well just maybe he is now trying to be the fox.
CS was right behind Rossi on one of Rossi's favourite track which suits yamaha as well. If Rossi was pushing and still only mange to beat CS then i would say that was a big result for CS and ducati. Personally i don't think there was any sandbagging going from any of the riders and no need to undermine Nicky achievement with your stupid assumptions that CS was sandbagging and thats why Nicky was so close to CS.
Next test is vital for both Ducati and Yamaha and will give clear picture where every one stands right now.
I also think that there is some sandbagging going on and these comments by FP just cement that for me. With the engine rules there is much less chance for development through the season so if Ducati can lull Yamaha into a false sense of security then it will be potential 6 races before they can come out with a more powerful engine to try and match Ductai. This would present Ducati with a significant advantage.
Perhaps Nicky being so much closer to Stoner's pace is because he is not sandbagging and in reality Stoner has a second or so up his sleeve which possibly won't become apparent until the second round because everyone expects him to be fast at Qatar.
Remember Stoner is known for reading boards like these so if we can come up with these types of strategies don't you think he can too. Everyone has said that he keeps getting out foxed by the fox. Well just maybe he is now trying to be the fox.
CS was right behind Rossi on one of Rossi's favourite track which suits yamaha as well. If Rossi was pushing and still only mange to beat CS then i would say that was a big result for CS and ducati. Personally i don't think there was any sandbagging going from any of the riders and no need to undermine Nicky achievement with your stupid assumptions that CS was sandbagging and thats why Nicky was so close to CS.
Next test is vital for both Ducati and Yamaha and will give clear picture where every one stands right now.
Hmmmmmmmmmm.......... The nine time world champion, who is wildly famous for and extremely successful at mind games- being outplayed by a very inconsistent, 4 th placed challenger who is not known for being successful at any mental warfare whatsoever ( in fact the opposite)..........
Some continue to push the boundaries of fanboy delusions ever further than was ever thought possible
Some continue to push the boundaries of fanboy delusions ever further than was ever thought possible
