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Ducati chose Bridgestone to beat Rossi

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Ducati chose Bridgestone to beat Rossi

By Michele Lostia and Matt Beer Tuesday, September 25th 2007, 15:48 GMT


Ducati Corse CEO Claudio Domenicali says the team opted for Bridgestone tyres because they knew it would be difficult to beat Valentino Rossi without a technical advantage.

Casey Stoner's 2007 title is the first MotoGP championship success for both Bridgestone and Ducati. Their partnership began in 2005, and Domenicali revealed that team boss Livio Suppo had pushed for the tyre switch as a reaction to Ducati's failure to sign Rossi.

"Before getting to this point we went through good and not as good times, with some difficult decisions like moving on to Bridgestone," Domenicali was quoted as saying by Corriere della Sera's website.

"That was the result of some reasoning: we had huge admiration for Rossi, we had tried to sign him, but we didn't manage to.

"Having thought that it would have been difficult to beat him with the same technical conditions, Livio had an idea that has turned out to be a winner: to face him with different weapons. That is different tyres."

Domenicali added that Ducati were immediately convinced by the quality of Bridgestone's MotoGP effort.

"I remember well the first contact with Bridgestone: we had found a company with technology, resources and motivations that convinced us that with time we would achieve results," he said.

"It was decisive to be Bridgestone's reference point and to create a team to develop the tyres. A fundamental point when designing the bike too.

"Until last year Michelin had an undisputed superiority. Bridgestone has paid for its apprenticeship and now the situation is level in my opinion. It's part of competition. If a single-tyre comes, then we'll see what to do. We know there are some good and bad points about it."

He admitted that Rossi was now always likely to remain a rival of Ducati, but did not rule out the possibility of the Italian legend riding for the Italian manufacturer at some point in the future.

"I still regret the way things went with Valentino," Domenicali said. "The way things are, it's unlikely (he will ever join Ducati). But who knows? Never say never."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62714
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Goatboy @ Nov 13 2007, 01:17 PM) [snapback]100574[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
"I still regret the way things went with Valentino," Domenicali said. "The way things are, it's unlikely (he will ever join Ducati). But who knows? Never say never."

Sounds like there will always be a spot for valentino at ducati; valentino ain't stupid, he wouldn't have made his recent remarks unguardedly.

Ducati obviously have a different view than mercedes had of michael schumacher in similar circumstances; I understand they eventually decided that schumacher was actually a bigger brand name in germany than mercedes, and hence it was not in their interest to sign him.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(michaelm @ Nov 13 2007, 02:45 PM) [snapback]100577[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Sounds like there will always be a spot for valentino at ducati; valentino ain't stupid, he wouldn't have made his recent remarks unguardedly.

Ducati obviously have a different view than mercedes had of michael schumacher in similar circumstances; I understand they eventually decided that schumacher was actually a bigger brand name in germany than mercedes, and hence it was not in their interest to sign him.


In Italy, there have already been a couple of similar interviews with Filippo Preziosi of Ducati, who always repeats that to win in MotoGP now, you have to beat two main adversaries: Honda and Rossi. The strategy has been to differentiate from both of them, hoping to gain an advantage somewhere.

It's pretty clear ideas. I do not know if they would have won without Stoner though. Surely they wouldn't have won with Capirex this year, but with Rossi...? Yes, I think. Rossi adapts better than Capi to different bikes and circumstances and Ducati is a fast bike. If they keep winning with Stoner next year, they've got no reason to invest on Rossi. If Rossi comes back at the top and beats them, then they may consider it.

The reason why Ducati didn't sign Rossi in 2003 is the same reason why Honda didn't get along well with Rossi at that time - it is the management's idea that the rider should not overshadow the Brand.

It's probably wrong. Everybody credits Rossi and not Yamaha for the 2004 and 2005 titles, but Yamaha increased sales hugely anyway. What matters is winning and drawing crowds, and Rossi for that has been the best investment.

Let us see if he can strike back... He surely wants to. Be it with Yamaha, Ducati, Honda or BMW I think matters very little to him, as long as he's convinced they can give him the right tools.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(J4rn0 @ Nov 13 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]100608[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Iet us see if he can strike back... He surely wants to. Be it with Yamaha, Ducati, Honda or BMW I think matters very little to him, as long as he's convinced they can give him the right tools.
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I like the idea of rossi on a ducati.
 
this is old news
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(michaelm @ Nov 13 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]100610[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I like the idea of rossi on a ducati.


I don't because they would be saying hes only winning because he has a Ducati
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Nov 13 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]100615[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
this is old news
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I don't because they would be saying hes only winning because he has a Ducati
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I think Ducati made the right choice in the past. If they should have won a title with Rossi everybody would have said "Ducati wins because of Rossi". If Ducati shouldn't have won anything with Rossi riding, everybody would have said "Rossi doesn't win because of Ducati". That's what Domenicali thought at the time of getting in contact with Rossi.
Starting from now they could get Rossi because they demonstrated to win without Rossi, too.
 
I think that claim that Ducati knew Bridgestones would be better than Michelins before the season started, is utter nonsense. They got lucky with the changes in tire rules that, rightly, benefitted Birdgestone. I think they chose stones because they were FREE and got really lucky..
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(crvlvr @ Nov 15 2007, 01:23 AM) [snapback]100817[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I think that claim that Ducati knew Bridgestones would be better than Michelins before the season started, is utter nonsense. They got lucky with the changes in tire rules that, rightly, benefitted Birdgestone. I think they chose stones because they were FREE and got really lucky..


Are you talking about the intreview now?
No one claimed that they <u>knew </u>stones would be better, but they knew they couldn't beat Rossi and Honda on the same equipment, so they <u>hoped </u>they would gain an advantage somewhere.
Another tread here recently pointed out that Ducati IS the different one.
Frame, engine, tires they all differentiate them from the main rivals.
The plan was good and with a surprice rider like Stoner it was a huge success.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Babelfish @ Nov 14 2007, 04:49 PM) [snapback]100821[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Are you talking about the intreview now?.
No, I am referring to the title of post that seems to imply that. Ducati has been on Bridgestones for the past few years, they did not change just to beat Rossi.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(crvlvr @ Nov 14 2007, 04:23 PM) [snapback]100817[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I think that claim that Ducati knew Bridgestones would be better than Michelins before the season started, is utter nonsense. They got lucky with the changes in tire rules that, rightly, benefitted Birdgestone. I think they chose stones because they were FREE and got really lucky..



They went with the stones because they knew unless they had Rossi on the bike they wouldn't get .... from Michelin
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hopper_fan @ Nov 15 2007, 10:31 PM) [snapback]100992[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
They went with the stones because they knew unless they had Rossi on the bike they wouldn't get .... from Michelin


Why not?

Everyone else got .... from Michelin this year.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Helix @ Nov 15 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]100997[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Everyone else got .... from Michelin this year.
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Including Rossi. and now, all of a sudden the sky has fallen.. Rossi needs a new bike, new tires, a new girl friend, a new tax attorney.. etc. etc..
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