CASEY STONER JOINS THE DUCATI MARLBORO TEAM

Am i the only one who's disappointed and think it's a mistake by stoner?

If he is to ever stay upright he is going to need consistency and time without more pressure. There is already the change to 800cc so surely it would've been best for him to have kept the same people around him and the same manufacturer. Also, could somebody knowledgable on bikes compare the pros and cons of honda v ducati. As i'd think there is a negative in the change there too with regards to needing to stay on the bike and be


consistent!

Then i liked the stoner checcinelo (spelling?) combination working on a lower budget and sticking it to the big boys. Being in a way underdogs though clearly the bike is good enough (?) with the pace stoner has shown. (Also the stylish team manager and goofy but talented rider combination made me smile- oh dear. Lol)

If i remember right rossi had problems staying upright early on, did he change bike for year 2? Sorry my memory is crap.

I hope i am proved wrong but i'm not so positive


towards stoner anymore (definitely one of my favourites in gp but my support is starting to prefer elsewhere after this move.)

Lets hope he proves me wrong and does something special so i REALLY support casey stoneri once again.

caseys dream was to be rasing in motogp on a factoy bike and now he has achieved it. i think he will do well on a ducati. perhaps wait a bit though and see where he and the 900 duc are at compared to loris and the rest of the field. i think he will finish more next year... the only way is up.

shame for sete though... the catalunya crash did stuff up his year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Oct 20 2006, 01:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Bad news for Sete. He's a lot more mature than Stoner. I know Ducati are looking for a young, talented rider for the factory squad, but I think another year on the Duc could have led to some good results for Gibernau. It is bad news for Sete but if you were running the Ducati team and you had the choice between keeping Sete or hiring Stoner, how could you choose Sete?. That collarbone is ...... now, blow on it and you'll break it, he may very well retire. I wouldn't want a rider spending half the season injured while I pay his wages and neither would any manager in the paddock. He'd be a good man to develop any new bike including the kawasaki, he knows the RCV and the Ducati inside out plus he's got heaps of 500 experience which might come in handy next year.
It's a great move for Stoner and could turn out to be an inspired move by Ducati. Honda, everyone says is the bike to be on but not when you're well down the pecking order in the LCR squad. No point going to Yamaha so factory Ducati wins. If Ducati wait another year it could cost more to get Stoner even if they could. What other young rider would you or could you hire? Hopper and Vermeulen have both had the Suzuki lobotomy that kept KRjr there for years so god knows when that'll wear off, Elias maybe and Pedrosa is HRC's pup. I'd sign Casey, best of luck to him.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CaptainSnow @ Oct 20 2006, 04:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He beat Capirrosi and Rossi for pole position at Mugello.
Who the hell beats the Italians at Mugello?


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Yamahamer-AL @ Oct 20 2006, 05:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>got Stoner at a discount price.

Hahaha I was listening to the new podcast and they said:

"Some say Stoner has already crashed w Ducati without even riding it yet."

Hahaha that made my night! OK I'm gonna go get drunk now, talk to you all tomorrow fellow forum members!

i think once he pulls his head in he will fly on that duc... just wait

No doubt, no doubt! That's gonna be one fast koala when he figures out the bike!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CaptainSnow @ Oct 21 2006, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No doubt, no doubt! That's gonna be one fast koala when he figures out the bike!

koala's aren't fast...

hopefully he'll master the bike quick and learn from loris ... then he might just be the future of dukes...

honestly i've rather choosed melandri/elias or vermeulen then casey but if that's what they could get that's it....

Koalas are not fast but they have sone nice claws lol.
Although they're vegetarians they still are cool lol.
Quick note: Did you know people call them Koala Bears but they are not related to bears?
Anyways, thats what I learned on my trip to Australia lol.

Would you like it more if i would have rather said fast Kangaroo? Wallaby? lol

I would like to see Vermeullen on the Ducati instead of Stoner, but I think that Stoner was the one with no contract obligations.
Not a bad pick though, Stoner will ride the .... out of that bike!

Interestingly on the pod cast randy
said how he thinks the ducati will work well with casey's riding
style so that perhaps answers my question of honda v ducati

So perhaps i'm going to be wrong and it will be a great move for
casey

Even if it isn't as fast as the Honda initially, the Ducati engineers will be ebuilding a bike around Stoner and Capirossi.

Compared to before when they built a bike for Pedrosa, Hayden, Melandri, and then Stoner had to figure out how to make it benefit his style.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pirkkalan GP @ Oct 20 2006, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Am i the only one who's disappointed and think it's a mistake by stoner?

If he is to ever stay upright he is going to need consistency and time without more pressure. There is already the change to 800cc so surely it would've been best for him to have kept the same people around him and the same manufacturer. Also, could somebody knowledgable on bikes compare the pros and cons of honda v ducati. As i'd think there is a negative in the change there too with regards to needing to stay on the bike and be consistent!


Right now Stoner's in a low budget team and is a single rider.
Meaning not as much info sharing between Teams.
He can't develope at LCR. He's done well though!
Ducati has proven it can destroy the competition, and has a good competitive bike. So, Casey going to an 800cc Ducati is Great news for him. He can learn from Loris and develop as a better more consistent rider. It's just a shame he's Stacking the Bike so much.
He needs to shake off that stigma. Because he's going to get injured
sooner or later.

He has exceeded the expectations this year and has made a serious
impression on the MotoGP community. That is why Ducati have signed him. I just hope Chris Vermulen wakes up and doesn't throw away 3-5yrs trying to Develope the Suzuki. But who knows, C.V. has turned a few heads as well. Could you imagine if he beats Hopper in the points. In his Rookie year? Wow that's talent enough to get a gig at Yamaha next year?!?!

It was rumored that Carlos Checa will ride for team LCR?

As for Sete? Maybe a year off may do him good? I think he should retire.
After Valentino said he'd never win a race ever again.
He Jinxed him, because he was right. He never did.
He's a super talented rider but his head isn't in the right place.

Sorry, I am a little biased toward Aussie riders.

On the same page with you all the way BAM, Stoner will be watched closely at Ducati and with the pressure of a one year contract he'll have to wind his neck in.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BAM @ Oct 22 2006, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>just hope Chris Vermulen wakes up and doesn't throw away 3-5yrs trying to Develope the Suzuki. But who knows, C.V. has turned a few heads as well. Could you imagine if he beats Hopper in the points. In his Rookie year? Wow that's talent enough to get a gig at Yamaha next year?!?!That's that Suzuki lobotomy that KRjr and Hopper got.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BAM @ Oct 22 2006, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As for Sete? Maybe a year off may do him good? I think he should retire.
After Valentino said he'd never win a race ever again.
He Jinxed him, because he was right. He never did.
He's a super talented rider but his head isn't in the right place.
.I think it's gonna be hard for him to get signed, that collar bone will be an achilles heel, pardon the crap pun.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BAM @ Oct 22 2006, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It was rumored that Carlos Checa will ride for team LCR?That's a done deal.

Old habits die hard, Katt

As far as the Ducati kicking ..., well it is a fast bike, but only two men have put it on the podium, both of whom are mature (and kick-... IMO) riders, and both of whom seem to have a thing for Ducati machinery.

Thanks for input ben

Contradictively i think it's a good move by ducati.
Overall i am feeling pretty neutral about the move now after my initial negativity on behalf of stoner. On one hand i feel the stability of same team would be best but on the other hand there is everything others have said. There's good and bad in everything (Btw. I think i also have a bias towards his ability )
Ie. Only bad in stoner is goofyness. Too quick for the bike - hence the crashes

Personally I'd have loved to see Marco or even Nicky on a Ducati. And Melandri tore himself to bits over that, he had a really hard time trying to decide what to do, but in the end it was Gresini's enthusiasm that did the trick.
I think Casey will do well on the Ducati. He's already shown he's a good rider. And no one should forget Vale was the king of falls himself in his own time. Good luck to him. I think Ducati will still get Melandri when Loris's days are up.
Sete's done for imo. His collar bone's screwed up, he's too old to heal properly (ok maybe the stem cells might work) and he's a liability. What happened in Spain was definitely not deliberate, and that, as we say, is racing, but he gave Dr. Costa a fair amount of work to do! Not to mention leaving his own team with zero riders. Loris should have been up there battling for the championship were it not for that. Loris is the true Ducati man, he will finish his career with them, so talk about him doing this or doing that is pointless. And he's not getting any younger either but boy isn't he still brilliant?

^^^^^ That's so true about Loris. As for Melandri, I'm glad he stayed with Gresini. I know he's capable of more on that sattelite RC211V machine. There is a lot to say about a rider who can win on a sattelite team. Go Melandri!!! Show those guys that you don't need a factory ride to be successful.