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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Jul 28 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]81862[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Troy Bayliss, maybe the only likeable Aussie in Motorsport. In fact, certainly he is.


I disagree, Chris V is nicer.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Jul 28 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]81862[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
, all I'm saying is that Capi has not been shown enough respect by a team that could well & truly be stuffed without him.



How exactly are they disrespecting him? What is it that you expect?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Jul 28 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]81862[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Capi was a contender last year, simple as.
Without the Catalunya incident, who knows.

Not forgetting he finished, I think, around about a race win of points off Hayden at the end so...



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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Jul 28 2007, 11:59 AM) [snapback]81866[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I disagree, Chris V is nicer.
How exactly are they disrespecting him? What is it that you expect?
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Nah, Troy boy is just awesome.

Well, offering a ride to Melandri without telling Capi after only the year before there were headlines of Capirossi Gets Job For Life At Ducati - pfft!
I mean, the team saying they're offering this 3rd bike to Capi as a show of gratitude for what he's done, yeah...they only offer it to him AFTER they've given his place in the team so someone else.
What a slap in the face with a wet fish.

I wouldn't mind so much if there wasn't all this talk of Stoner destroying Loris etc.

I mean, there have been 2 races so far where Capi was near Stoner, the first, (either Donington or Assen) Capi passed Stoner with ease but DNFed from pushing too hard, & then at Saschenring Capi again was fortunate enough to be up the front & obliterated Stoner with ease & never looked back.

On even machinary & head to head, I still think Loris will always come out on top.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Jul 28 2007, 12:10 PM) [snapback]81870[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

On even machinary & head to head, I still think Loris will always come out on top.


How can you believe this after what we have seen this season?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Jul 28 2007, 12:21 PM) [snapback]81872[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
How can you believe this after what we have seen this season?


Because of the 2 examples I mentioned above, the only 2 times Capi has been near Stoner this year, he has passed Stoner with ease & left him for dead.

Stoner does a good job, but in 2 attempts he has not yet held off Capi & if Capi were to qualify better & not get himself chained down in the middle of the pack, he would be more than a handful for Stoner.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Jul 28 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]81873[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Because of the 2 examples I mentioned above, the only 2 times Capi has been near Stoner this year, he has passed Stoner with ease & left him for dead.

Stoner does a good job, but in 2 attempts he has not yet held off Capi & if Capi were to qualify better & not get himself chained down in the middle of the pack, he would be more than a handful for Stoner.


There have only been 2 examples of them "Head to head" as you say because despite the level playing field Casey has had him beaten by a distance in all the other races.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Jul 28 2007, 08:25 PM) [snapback]81840[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
He hasn't been spoiled enough imo.

He & - to some extent - Troy Bayliss MADE Ducati what they are now, & what appreciation do they get? None.

Instead an arrogant little Aussie .... just swans into the team & everything is hunky dory, while Loris, who did everything for that team, is pushed aside & treated like ....!

Disgraceful if you ask me.


Desmosedici65...YOU HAVE TGO BE KIDING ME!!! You’re just as bad as Loris!!! Or better still you’re just as ignorant as Loris!!! Ok what ahs Loris done for Ducati!!!

1. Nothing of significance!!!
2. Nothing that has made Ducati even look like a world championship contender
3. Loris ha s so many excuses in 2007..baby...bike...tyre...what else

No Desmosedici65...Loris has NEVER DONE NOTHING IN THE 500/motoGP and he will never achieve anything will it be 2007/08/09/10...or the NEXT MELLINIUM!!!...Capirossi HAS BEEN A BIGBIG FAILURE IN THE 500/motoGP CLASS!!! BIGBIG TIME!!! I have said this before and I stick by my WORDS WITH A FANATICAL INSTINCT!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Jul 28 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]81874[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
There have only been 2 examples of them "Head to head" as you say because despite the level playing field Casey has had him beaten by a distance in all the other races.


True, but Loris has had a whole pack to contend with. Casey is alright leading from the front, & he rides an inch-perfect race always, but get him amongst a whole bunch of them like at Sachsenring & he clearly isn't as comfortable or impressive.

There's no taking away from the guy's talent or ability, but he has failed to impress me as a fighter so far.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Jul 28 2007, 12:42 PM) [snapback]81877[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
True, but Loris has had a whole pack to contend with. Casey is alright leading from the front, & he rides an inch-perfect race always, but get him amongst a whole bunch of them like at Sachsenring & he clearly isn't as comfortable or impressive.

There's no taking away from the guy's talent or ability, but he has failed to impress me as a fighter so far.


I thought he did pretty good at Catalunya
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Jul 28 2007, 12:36 PM) [snapback]81875[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Desmosedici65...YOU HAVE TGO BE KIDING ME!!! You’re just as bad as Loris!!! Or better still you’re just as ignorant as Loris!!! Ok what ahs Loris done for Ducati!!!

1. Nothing of significance!!!
2. Nothing that has made Ducati even look like a world championship contender
3. Loris ha s so many excuses in 2007..baby...bike...tyre...what else

No Desmosedici65...Loris has NEVER DONE NOTHING IN THE 500/motoGP and he will never achieve anything will it be 2007/08/09/10...or the NEXT MELLINIUM!!!...Capirossi HAS BEEN A BIGBIG FAILURE IN THE 500/motoGP CLASS!!! BIGBIG TIME!!! I have said this before and I stick by my WORDS WITH A FANATICAL INSTINCT!!!
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Nothing of significance? Their first ever GP win? Taking them from new kids on the block to genuine championship contenders, having developed the bike all this way just so little ..... like Casey Stoner can ride them.

I don't see how he has been a big big failure in MotoGP at all, the guy is still one of the best all-round racers around, whether you agree or disagree.

And yes, I'm sure you do stick by your words with a fanatical instinct, that must give you great comfort & satisfaction, even when you realise you are so blind.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Jul 28 2007, 09:47 PM) [snapback]81880[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Nothing of significance? Their first ever GP win? Taking them from new kids on the block to genuine championship contenders, having developed the bike all this way just so little ..... like Casey Stoner can ride them.

I don't see how he has been a big big failure in MotoGP at all, the guy is still one of the best all-round racers around, whether you agree or disagree.

And yes, I'm sure you do stick by your words with a fanatical instinct, that must give you great comfort & satisfaction, even when you realise you are so blind.


Desmosedici65... Just KEEP pulling ur little fellow and u will convince ur self that it’s going to grow to be a big fellow, just like little Capire-XXXX has done throughout his 500/motoGP record...lol...Desmosedici65...IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!!
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YEWS AND HOW MANY YEARS HAS HE had????...DOES HE NEED 2000YEARS!!! to acive!!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Jul 28 2007, 01:03 PM) [snapback]81882[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Desmosedici65... Just KEEP pulling ur little fellow and u will convince ur self that it’s going to grow to be a big fellow, just like little Capire-XXXX has done throughout his 500/motoGP record...lol...Desmosedici65...IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!!
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YEWS AND HOW MANY YEARS HAS HE had????...DOES HE NEED 2000YEARS!!! to acive!!!

we seem to be digressing from the original thread

i think marco will be a threat next year to casey.

just look at the results this season.

even though he hasnt been on the box so many times he is still the only other rider this season to get points at every single round.

the only other rider to do that is casey himself
i cant wait til 08
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chanchan @ Jul 28 2007, 10:07 PM) [snapback]81885[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
we seem to be digressing from the original thread

i think marco will be a threat next year to casey.

just look at the results this season.

even though he hasnt been on the box so many times he is still the only other rider this season to get points at every single round.

the only other rider to do that is casey himself
i cant wait til 08


True True...I agree that Marco will be Casey’s biggest TEST IN 2008!!! But then again he might NOT!!!...But If in 2008 there won’t be any other teams that will challenge the Ducati!!! Then Casey will have a very big battle with the great Marco as he’s a go for all type of rider!!! He’s proven this against Rossi and throughout the 500/motoGP championship years that he’s competed!!!
 
Funny post of the year goes to:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Jul 28 2007, 12:36 PM) [snapback]81875[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Capirossi HAS BEEN A BIGBIG FAILURE IN THE 500/motoGP CLASS!!! BIGBIG TIME!!! I have said this before and I stick by my WORDS WITH A FANATICAL INSTINCT!!!
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I guess you skipped last season did you? Or did you turn your TV off everytime Stoner fell off, thus missing hald the season?

Please explain how a front runner in motoGP is a BIGBIG failure?
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Do people get the same TV broadcast worldwide?- cause sometimes I really do wonder if people see the same racing.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BEN @ Jul 28 2007, 10:34 PM) [snapback]81890[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Funny post of the year goes to:
I guess you skipped last season did you? Or did you turn your TV off everytime Stoner fell off, thus missing hald the season?

Please explain how a front runner in motoGP is a BIGBIG failure?
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Do people get the same TV broadcast worldwide?- cause sometimes I really do wonder if people see the same racing.


BENNY haven’t you read Casey’s interview and what he had to say about that!!! And his unfortunate experience in 2006 on the infamous or infamous LCR!!!...I SAY NO MOERE!!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Jul 28 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]81893[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
BENNY haven’t you read Casey’s interview and what he had to say about that!!! And his unfortunate experience in 2006 on the infamous or infamous LCR!!!...I SAY NO MOERE!!!


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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Jul 28 2007, 10:54 PM) [snapback]81894[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
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Hahah, fekking priceless isnt he! I need a laugh, i know where to come! Pinky is almost as bad
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(antfan @ Jul 28 2007, 11:11 PM) [snapback]81898[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Hahah, fekking priceless isnt he! I need a laugh, i know where to come! Pinky is almost as bad
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Jul 28 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]81901[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
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You make me ashamed to be Australian, shut your yap and dont even mention Ant's name..
 
I thought like many that Ducati had got it wrong when they employed "Crasher" Stoner but I've been proved wrong all the way. A lot of us think Melandri is the epitome of inconsistency but maybe once he's on a Ducati, he'll prove us wrong again. Often all a rider needs is to be in the right team and all his perceived weaknesses just disappear.

Of course, Marco might only be challenging Casey for fifth place in the Championship if Michelin and Yamaha get their act together and they watch as Rossi battles with Lorenzo for the title. Who knows?

Also, I can't understand the hatred! Life's too short to waste it on such negative emotions.

Steve
 
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