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Burgess says the setup of Rossi's Yamaha was just fine

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Burgess does not accept Rossi's own explanation that his recent defeats were caused by an imperfect setup of his M1, and points out that telemetry data show that his braking performances kept getting worse during the race, well ahead of the last 7-8 laps.That would indicate persisting problems with the injured shoulder, in spite of Rossi himself dismissing the shoulder problem as irrelevant for the race outcome.

Source GPWeek, commented by GPone here (in English):

http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/news/braking-news/814-burgess-rossi-non-e-in-forma.html
 
Damn, his shoulder must be worse than he is letting on then. Although what Lorenzo said in the parc ferme interview contradicts this. Lorenzo said "rossi was to good on the brake but had problems in some corners" Mixed messages out of the fiat garage .
 
Depending on how mental you are I'm sure this proves:



1) Rossi is a liar



2) He is manipulating the situation to make it look as if the excuse is not coming from him.



Choose your mental illness...
 
Damn, his shoulder must be worse than he is letting on then. Although what Lorenzo said in the parc ferme interview contradicts this. Lorenzo said "rossi was to good on the brake but had problems in some corners" Mixed messages out of the fiat garage .

In light of recent events, I have a renewed appreciation for riders racing hurt.
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I don't think there is much on the mix message here, Lorenzo said he was good on brakes because Rossi at 90% is still much better than most. Plus once he felt Lorenzo on his ... he probably for those laps brushed away the pain and broke hard until Lorenzo was able to pass. Once he did, Rossi after following a bit then dropped back.
 
It's a bogus source. There are no direct quotes of any kind, and even if the source information is correct, Burgess never said that Rossi's shoulder was responsible for longer braking distances and Burgess never said that Rossi's setup was fine.



This is part of the Italian hype machine (read: lies) to improve the storyline for Mugello and to increase Rossi's achievement should he recapture the win at Mugello.



Maybe Rossi's shoulder is bothering him. Maybe his shoulder did lead to longer braking distances. Maybe his setup was spot on at LeMans. This article doesn't produce one shred of evidence; however, it is a reasonable assumption and it makes for a good storyline so they published it anyway.
 
I’ve heard that one of the basic rules (or breach of rules) is to use Capital Letters, Bold, bigger text, etc. for sensationalism (or bad manners in other words).



As pointed by Lex, no evidence what so ever. It even sounds like the game children play called ‘Broken Phone’ or something like that, in which several people get out of a room, a story is told to one by one and the rest see how it becomes a mess from the original. That Article states, and I will be Sensationalist, the following examples: “Without directly quoting Jeremy Burgess, the weekly online magazine makes reference to a revelation by Rossi's crew chief”, Wow, now that has bases. Then: “Jeremy Burgess, however, by way of the British media, is not willing to take the blame”, yeah right! By the way, no links what so ever.



Anyway, In the Official Mugello Preview Statement, Rossi mentions his shoulder:



…“After another rest I hope my shoulder is fully recovered and that I will be back to full strength for Mugello, my home race. We had some problems in Le Mans so we will be working hard from the first session to make sure that we're back to our best. Mugello is an incredible place to ride a motorcycle, there is nowhere else like it in the world with all the tifosi around the hills and when you go out for the first lap the sound is something amazing. I always look forward to racing there and I hope we will be in good shape this weekend.”



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I’ve heard that one of the basic rules (or breach of rules) is to use Capital Letters, Bold, bigger text, etc. for sensationalism (or bad manners in other words).



As pointed by Lex, no evidence what so ever. It even sounds like the game children play called ‘Broken Phone’ or something like that, in which several people get out of a room, a story is told to one by one and the rest see how it becomes a mess from the original. That Article states, and I will be Sensationalist, the following examples: “Without directly quoting Jeremy Burgess, the weekly online magazine makes reference to a revelation by Rossi's crew chief”, Wow, now that has bases. Then: “Jeremy Burgess, however, by way of the British media, is not willing to take the blame”, yeah right! By the way, no links what so ever.



Anyway, In the Official Mugello Preview Statement, Rossi mentions his shoulder:



…“After another rest I hope my shoulder is fully recovered and that I will be back to full strength for Mugello, my home race. We had some problems in Le Mans so we will be working hard from the first session to make sure that we're back to our best. Mugello is an incredible place to ride a motorcycle, there is nowhere else like it in the world with all the tifosi around the hills and when you go out for the first lap the sound is something amazing. I always look forward to racing there and I hope we will be in good shape this weekend.”



Yamaha Racing Communications

Barentszplein 4B / 1013 NJ Amsterdam / The Netherlands

T. +31 (0) 20 625 6539

E.
[email protected] W. [url]www.yamaha-racing.com[/url]



V, you're such a sensationalist.
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It's a bogus source. There are no direct quotes of any kind, and even if the source information is correct, Burgess never said that Rossi's shoulder was responsible for longer braking distances and Burgess never said that Rossi's setup was fine.



This is part of the Italian hype machine (read: lies) to improve the storyline for Mugello and to increase Rossi's achievement should he recapture the win at Mugello.



Maybe Rossi's shoulder is bothering him. Maybe his shoulder did lead to longer braking distances. Maybe his setup was spot on at LeMans. This article doesn't produce one shred of evidence; however, it is a reasonable assumption and it makes for a good storyline so they published it anyway.



Lex... This story comes originally from GPWeek
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Anyway, this kind of stories often run unconfirmed simply because they come from informal conversations and sources do not want to be quoted directly. That does not mean they are automatically false.

Assuming for a moment it can be true, it would be interesting to understand why Rossi prefers to blame setup problems while hiding the seriousness of the injury...
 
Lex... This story comes originally from GPWeek
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Anyway, this kind of stories often run unconfirmed simply because they come from informal conversations and sources do not want to be quoted directly. That does not mean they are automatically false.

Assuming for a moment it can be true, it would be interesting to understand why Rossi prefers to blame setup problems while hiding the seriousness of the injury...



The claims are reasonable, but unsubstantiated (not necessarily untrue). The timing of this article suggests it is part of the pre-Mugello rumor mill to hype the upcoming event.
 
V, you're such a sensationalist.
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It cracked me up hermano… The “Revelation”
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, was it some sort of a crystal ball? Or “by way of the British media”
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, top of the line professional writing! I know it could be a translation thing, but come on! No Chief Editor in charge?
 
rossi and burgess comments, also an explanation of why rossi thought it was setup....



Valentino Rossi is hoping a lingering right shouder injury won’t prove a handicap as he concentrates on stopping Jorge Lorenzo’s brilliant early season charge in Mugello this weekend.



The 31-year-old is desperate to win his home race for a tenth time on Sunday as he aims to reduce a nine-point deficit on in-form Spaniard Lorenzo.



Pivotal to Rossi’s hopes will the recovery of the right shoulder injury he suffered in April during a motocross training accident.



The Fiat Yamaha rider said: “After another rest I hope my shoulder is fully recovered and that I will be back to full strength for Mugello, my home race.



"We had some problems in Le Mans so we will be working hard from the first session to make sure that we're back to our best.



"Mugello is an incredible place to ride a motorcycle, there is nowhere else like it in the world and when you go out for the first lap the sound is something amazing.



"I always look forward to racing there and I hope we will be in good shape this weekend."



Rossi was reluctant to blame his shoulder as the prime reason for his resounding defeat to Lorenzo at the last race in Le Mans.



But Aussie crew chief Jerry Burgess reckons the stretched tendons and ligaments are having an impact on Rossi’s riding.



Assessing the Le Mans race, Burgess said: “Valentino initially felt that he didn't have the grip on acceleration that Jorge had. But after 12 laps he had forgotten what he told me on Saturday night and that was after a few laps he was buggered.



"When we looked at the data and saw that his braking distances became a lot longer and he was having problems in the chicanes, I think a big part of it was in his shoulder.



"I think braking earlier and getting into the corner slower than normal meant he used the throttle a bit more to try and get out of the corner and that used the rear tyre more and that’s why he felt it was a set-up issue more than the shoulder.”
 
Mugello will be a big race for Rossi this year....Shoulder injury in question, Lorenzo leading in points and looking real strong, to avenge his 3rd place last year with a win.



Big thing is to win at his home round and get the momentum swinging his way for the next few rounds at tracks he so far has been stronger at than Lorenzo (Assen, Catalunya, Laguna, Sachsenring, and Brno) in hopes to break Lorenzo going into the last several rounds.



This race could set the tone for the rest of the season.....like Laguna in 2008 with Rossi and Stoner.
 
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"I think braking earlier and getting into the corner slower than normal meant he used the throttle a bit more to try and get out of the corner and that used the rear tyre more and that’s why he felt it was a set-up issue more than the shoulder.”



Now, this is a very plausible explanation ant I feel it nails it -- nice find Jaz, let me add the link to the original MCN article.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/s.../2010/June/jun0110-rossi-hopeful-on-shoulder/
 
It is now public that Rossi's injury is more serious than initially thought. After Le Mans he underwent more thorough examinations and now it is clear that surgery will be needed -- possibly at the end of the season. The magazine Motosprint in its latest issue speaks at length of the issue quoting both Rossi and Dr. Costa.
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It is now public that Rossi's injury is more serious than initially thought. After Le Mans he underwent more thorough examinations and now it is clear that surgery will be needed -- possibly at the end of the season. The magazine Motosprint in its latest issue speaks at length of the issue quoting both Rossi and Dr. Costa.
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yep, read it earlier from autosport
 

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