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Bradl to get Factory support in 2014?

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elitemafia

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[font=verdana, arial]Stefan Bradl has signed an agreement with Honda Racing Corporation (HRC) to be a 'factory supported' Honda rider with the LCR Team in the 2014 [/font]MotoGP[font=verdana, arial] World Championship. [/font]



[font=verdana, arial]Bradl stepped up to [/font]MotoGP[font=verdana, arial] with LCR, as the reigning Moto2 champion, this season where he finished eighth in the world championship and took a best finish of fourth.[/font]



[font=verdana, arial]The young German will now remain with the LCR team for at least beyond the end of his previous 2013 contract - and receive official HRC factory support.[/font]



[font=verdana, arial]“HRC's support was extremely important for me in my first season in the premier class and riding for the LCR Team has been a very positive experience for me: I am happy to continue with Lucio's Team and HRC for the next two years!” said Bradl.[/font]



[font=verdana, arial]With both [/font]Dani Pedrosa[font=verdana, arial] and Marc Marquez signed up for the factory Repsol Honda team until the end of 2014, Bradl has thus secured the next best thing to a full factory ride.[/font]



[font=verdana, arial]“Stefan, in his first season in the premier class, has demonstrated high skills, motivation and professionalism exceeding our initial expectations. We are happy to have fixed this deal to work with LCR and Stefan through to 2014,” said HRC vice president Shuhei Nakamoto.[/font]



[font=verdana, arial]LCR team manager Lucio Cecchinello, whose team joined [/font]MotoGP[font=verdana, arial] to run [/font]Casey Stoner[font=verdana, arial] in 2006, added: [/font]



[font=verdana, arial]“Being a part of HRC's program and continuing our sport project with Stefan through to 2014 make us very happy and very proud because this deal gives us the chance to better plan our job aiming to close the championship in the top positions. [/font]



[font=verdana, arial]“Stefan has amazed everybody at his debut in 2012 and I am sure the best is yet to come”.[/font]
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Sorry, but why does Stefan Bradl deserve this over Bautista?



Bautista finished 5th in the championsip and Bradl finished 8th. Bautista had two 3rd place podiums this season, Bradl's best result was just a single 4th place. Bautista finished ahead of Bradl in the majority of the races as well. My guess is because they want Bradl to be able to get on the podium with a superior bike, to attract more German fans. It's all a show now, isn't it....
 
Maybe because Bradl scored his finishes in his rookie season?



Don't forget Gresini use different suspension to the works bikes too....
 
elitemafia said:
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Sorry, but why does Stefan Bradl deserve this over Bautista?



Bautista finished 5th in the championsip and Bradl finished 8th. Bautista had two 3rd place podiums this season, Bradl's best result was just a single 4th place. Bautista finished ahead of Bradl in the majority of the races as well. My guess is because they want Bradl to be able to get on the podium with a superior bike, to attract more German fans. It's all a show now, isn't it....
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Yeah, it is definitely a "show". "The Spanish quota is more than full, now if we could somehow get more of those Germans on the band wagon, we could really make some bucks, couldn't we"?



But, in Bradl's defence, it was his rookie season and he did put in good performances consistently. It's really hard to tell how good his bike is/isn't from my living room - he may well have been pushing that thing to the limit every race, for all I know. Anyway, I think he deserves better equipment. Not that Alvaro doesn't deserve better, as well. Heck, they all deserve the best available machinery in my opinion. It's a pity we don't live in a fair world...
 
mad mick said:
Yeah, it is definitely a "show". "The Spanish quota is more than full, now if we could somehow get more of those Germans on the band wagon, we could really make some bucks, couldn't we"?
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, and POMs and Septics and WOPs too... just no farkin' 'stralian's!!!
 
cool.thoroughly deseved it.anybody that does not rate bradls performance this year is an ...... ok he crashed out of a couple good positions at the very end of the season ,but mostly he scored very solid positions and almost never crashed. imagine how happy LCR are when looking at the repair bills after the de puniet and elias. If i employed riders, i'd choose a rookie that holds back but doesn't ruin me financially over any guy that scores 2 podiums but crashes every other weekend.

looking forward to bradl vs marquez II

he got the seat because he is german?I've heard it all now.can we please get nino,sprog,mick no.1,talpa and all the other boppers back?preferred the bopper wars over this constant conspiracy .....
 
cliché guevara said:
cool.thoroughly deseved it.anybody that does not rate bradls performance this year is an ...... ok he crashed out of a couple good positions at the very end of the season ,but mostly he scored very solid positions and almost never crashed. imagine how happy LCR are when looking at the repair bills after the de puniet and elias. If i employed riders, i'd choose a rookie that holds back but doesn't ruin me financially over any guy that scores 2 podiums but crashes every other weekend.

looking forward to bradl vs marquez II

he got the seat because he is german?I've heard it all now.can we please get nino,sprog,mick no.1,talpa and all the other boppers back?preferred the bopper wars over this constant conspiracy .....
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Do you realise that you have just indicated that you prefer Rossi's riding style on the Duc to Stoner's? Rossi aimed to finish alive, Stoner had a win it or bin it mentality.
 
woody996 said:
Do you realise that you have just indicated that you prefer Rossi's riding style on the Duc to Stoner's? Rossi aimed to finish alive, Stoner had a win it or bin it mentality.
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i don't think theres any similarity between bradls rookie season (where he forfits millions of personal sponsorship to race) to rossis taking of 15+ million and failure to deliver.



2 thoughts:

1. i don't understand the obsession with rossi/stoner , its like you can't debate any motorcycle racing topic without something about those two popping up

2. stoner was a god on the ducati. had he crashed constantly trying to score 3rd i'd tend to agree it would be better to settle for constant 5th place finishes, but he won on the thing . rossi on the other hand crashed and didn't settle for 5th or whatever, but rather at the back of the field.
 
elitemafia said:
http://www.crash.net...t_for_2014.html







Sorry, but why does Stefan Bradl deserve this over Bautista?



Bautista finished 5th in the championsip and Bradl finished 8th. Bautista had two 3rd place podiums this season, Bradl's best result was just a single 4th place. Bautista finished ahead of Bradl in the majority of the races as well. My guess is because they want Bradl to be able to get on the podium with a superior bike, to attract more German fans. It's all a show now, isn't it....
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Bradl is a rookie, but I do agree with your premise. If you ask the "experts" they will say you're suffering from "group think" confirmation bias" and general "conspiracy theory". Its obvious why the league would want Bradl to succeed. If they can't woo BMW in, then at least give the German a better bike. Nothing brings in fans than to see their countryman succeed. This is obvious to a person like me who is "insane". The ferrous being, that even given our recent thread outlining the contrived nature of sport by businessmen running it, this truth still unbelievably remains wholly ignored, or as was said, the truth only 1% of the time. Amazing.
 
cliché guevara said:
cool.thoroughly deseved it.anybody that does not rate bradls performance this year is an ...... ok he crashed out of a couple good positions at the very end of the season ,but mostly he scored very solid positions and almost never crashed. imagine how happy LCR are when looking at the repair bills after the de puniet and elias. If i employed riders, i'd choose a rookie that holds back but doesn't ruin me financially over any guy that scores 2 podiums but crashes every other weekend.

looking forward to bradl vs marquez II

he got the seat because he is german?I've heard it all now.can we please get nino,sprog,mick no.1,talpa and all the other boppers back?preferred the bopper wars over this constant conspiracy .....
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I must be an ..... then.
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I don't particularly rate Bradl. Nice kid, I wish more riders were like him personally. But his performance was good, not great. His results were exactly would should be expected given his equipment. He wasn't going to beat the Jap factory bikes, but he should have easily beaten all the CRTs (that for me includes the DuCRTs). So what should he write his momma about? That he finished in the running order of a bike capable of 5-7? Ok, I suppose, for a rookie. I'll give him that. Other than that, I don't think he is much better than Alvaro. And I dont rate Alvaro. So at least hes better than a non-rated Spaniard to me. Bradl is as good as the top riders in the sport, but if he "deserves" factory support, then you have to make the case why others of his caliber do not. Thats where I think you may run into trouble. Friend, don't get tempted to buy into this meritocracy ........, we both know riders don't get rides based purely on their talent.
 
i don't.

but yes, would bautista have deserved bradls ride(factory support)?i think for somebody that made the big step up from the suzuki onto the gresini honda he should have performed much better. i don't think he outclassed bradl.

crutchlow is being hailed everywhere, did he outperform bradl who is a rookie and was on the (IMO) lesser bike?this is not to take anything away from cru, i like the guy and his riding.but where were the shouts that this is a dorna fix for the uk market when he had a good (but not great) season in wsbk and was awarded the traditional british tech 3 seat?

then again what about hayden?why did he not outperform rossi? he matched his speed more often than not but thats about it and he still gets his chances on factory bikes every year for a decade now.

the points standings don't tell the whole story,see?how would you react when somebody said hayden is only being kept on factory bikes instead of say pol espargaro/johnny rea (
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) because he's the only relevant american.

i'm not half to bradl what you are to hayden, but i firmly believe he is a very good rider and capable of finishing in the top 5 consistenly.

..... ...... up when you have too many people complaining about riders from other countries than spain getting into the series and suceeding
 
cliché guevara said:
i don't.

but yes, would bautista have deserved bradls ride(factory support)?i think for somebody that made the big step up from the suzuki onto the gresini honda he should have performed much better. i don't think he outclassed bradl.

crutchlow is being hailed everywhere, did he outperform bradl who is a rookie and was on the (IMO) lesser bike?this is not to take anything away from cru, i like the guy and his riding.but where were the shouts that this is a dorna fix for the uk market when he had a good (but not great) season in wsbk and was awarded the traditional british tech 3 seat?

then again what about hayden?why did he not outperform rossi? he matched his speed more often than not but thats about it and he still gets his chances on factory bikes every year for a decade now.

the points standings don't tell the whole story,see?how would you react when somebody said hayden is only being kept on factory bikes instead of say pol espargaro/johnny rea (
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) because he's the only relevant american.

i'm not half to bradl what you are to hayden, but i firmly believe he is a very good rider and capable of finishing in the top 5 consistenly.

..... ...... up when you have too many people complaining about riders from other countries than spain getting into the series and suceeding
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It's pretty clear that they pick favorites and not a lot of who gets the good bikes has to do with skill. Do you really think Nicky Hayden deserves a factory seat after not winning a single race since he won the world championship in 2006 (which he grasped with only a mere 2 race wins...)? I'm a firm believer that the Ducati, while it may be hard to ride, is capable of winning races. Both Satelite riders this year proved to be just awful, and Rossi wasn't trying and I don't think Hayden really has the talent to be up there with the aliens these days. Rossi gets a factory Yamaha seat because it sells the show. Hayden gets a factory Ducati seat to keep American fans interested, since Ben Spies failed at doing so on his Factory bike. Is it a conspiracy? Do you really think that all the riders besides Pedrosa, Marquez, Lorenzo and Dovisioso deserve their rides? Crutchlow has had some good results, but he's crashed about 50 times this season alone. Spies is just an embarrassment and should've stayed in WSBK, where he would've most likely kept dominating. Iannone had a very inconsistent Moto2 season, towards the end of the season he was hardly ever on the pace, yet he gets to ride the Duck and not Espargaro.. Why doesn't Pol Espargaro get the tech 3 seat over Bradley Smith? Uh, duh, it's cus he's not from the UK. It's not a conspiracy, it's just how the politics of the sport work.
 
if you read my post carefully you'd see how i won't argue with most you're saying.that its not skill alone is totally clear whenever you have to have the money to suceed in a sport from the beginning.

but complaining that a very deserving satellite rider (he just won this 600cc cup if you remember) gets the equipment to fight with the big boys is laughable.if he was spanish it would be because of dorna as well i guess
 
cliché guevara said:
i don't think theres any similarity between bradls rookie season (where he forfits millions of personal sponsorship to race) to rossis taking of 15+ million and failure to deliver.



2 thoughts:

1. i don't understand the obsession with rossi/stoner , its like you can't debate any motorcycle racing topic without something about those two popping up

2. stoner was a god on the ducati. had he crashed constantly trying to score 3rd i'd tend to agree it would be better to settle for constant 5th place finishes, but he won on the thing . rossi on the other hand crashed and didn't settle for 5th or whatever, but rather at the back of the field.
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If you can't see the double standards, not much point trying to explain it to you.



 
if you compare apples to oranges, not much point trying to explain it to you.



rookies and seasoned veterans with record salaries are not one and the same thing.one probably has brought more money to the team than he cost them, the other bled a company dry financially and made them look stupid.
 
cliché guevara said:
if you compare apples to oranges, not much point trying to explain it to you.



rookies and seasoned veterans with record salaries are not one and the same thing.one probably has brought more money to the team than he cost them, the other bled a company dry financially and made them look stupid.
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You are very harsh on VR yet he beat his team mate and every other Ducati rider in both championships that he contested. His team mate had much more experience than him on it. What does this show about their effort then?



He wasn't comfortable on the Ducati. Is it his duty to throw it down the road or live to fight another day? A little harsh I think.



He was hired to improve the bike so that it could win races and not be a hit/miss bike. Whether he did or not is uncertain. His team seems to think they did but everyone on Powerslide knows he didn't. Not sure who to believe there. I have no doubt that he was doing his best to improve the bike.



It didn't work out. He didn't stay. If he was there to 'bleed them dry' he would have stayed. Disproves your argument really.

 
On Bradl, I'm happy that he has got factory support. The more the better I think. I didn't see a great rookie season - just ended up where I would expect him to.
 
i don't think i'm overly soft or harsh on any rider except guintoli.

i give credit where it is due and i don't give it where i don't see a good performance. needless to say i think what rossi did the last 2 years was a complete disaster and theres no hiding it.

i applaude his move to yamaha because its the racers choice and i'm happy one of the 4 good bikes is now back in the hands of a championship contender, had he stayed in favor of the paycheck i would certainly have lost my respect for him as a rider.i think you're mistaking my view on rossi with that of other members.

the only times i've given rossi anything other but praise (for his riding) were jerez 05,guna 08 and the past two years.
 

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