Anyone know why Hayden and Hoppers don't get along

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duc999 @ Aug 19 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]85729[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Hey Guys,
I have heard that Hayden and Hoppers don't get along on several occasions. What is the cause?

I don't see why, neither rider is a dirty rider. Neither guy has a bad attitude.

What give?



First i've heard of a problem between them is there a link to the story?

well i heard hayboy got a bit drunk one night and said to hopper "only pooftas have there right ear pierced, aint you ever heard the expression right ear right queer" then he pinched hoppers birds arse and that why they dont get on.
cant remember where i read this

I'm sure Hopper is still a bit pissed at Hayden taking him out of the US GP.

A California Bro and a down home Kentucky boy don't get along? No way!

I think it's mainly because Hopper drank his own Kool-Aid. The guy is talented don't get me wrong, but he was the highly politicized American addition to the grid. He was connected to the right people in racing, and found himself on the MotoGP grid in 2002. That year Hayden became youngest AMA superbike champion by beating Mladin on a V-twin RC51. Hayden's stock went through the roof, and his connections landed him on a works Honda with Rossi. Hoppers connections got him nowhere but wrecked in the gravel trap on a factory Suzuki. They were both supposed to have great careers. Both had pace, both got rides on factory bikes, both had world champs showing them around the circuit. But we know how it panned out.

From what I understand, Hayden sees him as a nuisance because Hopper is always trying to steal the limelight, a limelight that Hayden probably doesn't really want.

Now that Hayden is world champ it's probably even worse. I'm almost certain that Hopper left Suzuki because Nicky is world champ and Hopper wants his piece of the pie.

Their both vying to be America's favorite rider, it's probably not ever going to be amicable.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Aug 19 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]85744[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I'm sure Hopper is still a bit pissed at Hayden taking him out of the US GP.



First off, Hayden did not take out Hopper in the USGP. Second, I think the media makes too much out of the Hayden Hopper thing. There is no real reason that they do not like each other. There has been no bad incident or anything. It just boils down to the fact that they are just 2 completely different types of people and they are just not friends. Maybe a little animosity that Hopkins has had to work his way up in GP and Hayden walked in and was given the best opportunity in the paddock at the time. But if you recall the end of the Assen race it was Hopper who helped Hayden out by pushing his bike back to the pits when Hayden ran out of fuel.

No real hatred or anything; just two guys who are not friends.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duc999 @ Aug 19 2007, 07:22 PM) [snapback]85748[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

That's Hilarious if it is true. From what I heard Hoppers likes to party with the ladies so He shouldn't have taken to much of an offense. His lady of the moment is not bad so...



His lady of the moment is a bit more permanent than you may think. They are married, I know they said he was engaged this morning in the race, but I assure you they are married.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duc999 @ Aug 19 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]85757[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

I can see switching for $$$. But for fame/admiration. I don't know about that.
Come to think of it I don't quite get why he switched from Suzuki to Kawak. The Kawasaki has not proven that it is a top bike. All of the time sheets show that it is down on speed. Why would you skip to an lesser bike?



MONEY I promise you that was the main motivation. Plus if Hopkins can make a winner out of that Kawasaki he is a legend; or at least closer to legend status. I think he is afraid of not having an excuse for not winning.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Eagle088 @ Aug 20 2007, 01:51 AM) [snapback]85759[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
MONEY I promise you that was the main motivation. Plus if Hopkins can make a winner out of that Kawasaki he is a legend; or at least closer to legend status. I think he is afraid of not having an excuse for not winning.

yup. i heard he will be the second highest payed rider on the grid. not convinced he is value for money tho.

There's a lot of people in the industry that have resentment
with Hopper because they feel he never earned a spot in MotoGp.
He was hooked up with John Ulrich editor of Roadracing World
and owner of Emgo Suzuki. Ulrich got him a test in MotoGp that
led to a seat based on his potential talent and not actual race wins.
If you look at the Hayden family they are a very family oriented
tight knit humble group. Hopper was always the cocky showboat type with a chip on his shoulder. They are defenitely 2 different people coming from different directions.
I don't think there is a lot of animosity there just a general dislike or annoyance.
He has also made comments about how he believes that he is the better rider but Nicky has a better bike. I think that comment was made in the Faster movie or maybe the Doctor, Tornado movie.
So he percieves himself this way but when he goes home to Laguna (In his home state) he is surrounded by a sea of orange. That has to eat him alive.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duc999 @ Aug 19 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]85729[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Hey Guys,
I have heard that Hayden and Hoppers don't get along on several occasions. What is the cause?

I don't see why, neither rider is a dirty rider. Neither guy has a bad attitude.

What give?

This is exactly how rumors get started. Please back up the question or claim with something. Good on you Roger on spotting it and making it satire.

Hey, have you heard that Kenny Roberts and Scott Russell don't get along, yeah, and they are from the same country and all....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JohnnyKnockdown @ Aug 20 2007, 03:39 AM) [snapback]85768[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
If you look at the Hayden family they are a very family oriented
tight knit humble group.


I don't see much humble about them at all...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duc999 @ Aug 20 2007, 01:47 AM) [snapback]85757[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Yeah, I noticed a ring on his finger during the after race interview. I was wondering. Good for him. I hope that they last and keep each other happy.

I can see the two different guys just not gelling as friends...
Lord knows I have had a few of those in my life.

Anyway.... I noticed Hoppers and Stoney yukking it up and Stoner and Hayden.. But no interacton between Hayden and Hoppers...

Go Figure..................................................

Now, I don't quite get the explanation that Hoppers switched to Kawak to get his peice of the pie. or the being America's favorite Rider.

I can see switching for $$$. But for fame/admiration. I don't know about that.
Come to think of it I don't quite get why he switched from Suzuki to Kawak. The Kawasaki has not proven that it is a top bike. All of the time sheets show that it is down on speed. Why would you skip to an lesser bike?



The impression I get is that they don't like each other because of each wanting to be top American. Similar to when any Brit has success Foggy slags them off, reckoning he can still go out an beat them.


On the whole hopper to kawasaki thing. hopper is sponsored by monster who sponsor kawasaki usa. monster want to break into the global market like red bull, so i reckon next year they will be title sponsor of kawasaki, which would give them money to run this rumoured third bike. i think monster still want to work with hopper so have offered him a big m,oney deal to front the team. plus hopper is american like monster.

what does anyone else think?

Didn't Hopper say something in the papers last year that he could have taken the title, as he knows he is better than Hayden?

I read it in MCN, not sure how reliable it is though.

If you look on Hoppers myspace page there are a few youtube clips of Nicky Hayden in commercials talking about 'bling' 'money' 'women' and how all them along with his world championship make him complete blah blah (for some product) dont remember the exact details.. But im pretty sure under the video it said something along the lines of 'My (Hopper's) motivation' ... I think its just a jealousy thing... Two pretty different personalities..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(phleg @ Aug 20 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]85882[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Didn't Hopper say something in the papers last year that he could have taken the title, as he knows he is better than Hayden?

I read it in MCN, not sure how reliable it is though.



I've heard that too. would love to see the pair on equal machinery and tyres. reckon it'd be a pretty close run thing.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Eagle088 @ Aug 20 2007, 01:33 AM) [snapback]85750[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
His lady of the moment is a bit more permanent than you may think. They are married, I know they said he was engaged this morning in the race, but I assure you they are married.



quite right

He Announced his engagement to Ashley in the hotel bar the night of the Donni Race and said the marriage was iminent

i am sure the LS incident hasnt helped their fiendship

hopper, hayden on same bike on an unknown track hopper would win!!
haha thats my fanboy coming out!!

i think what the "animosity" they have is that they are both young american riders and each one of them wants to be the #1 american guy.

and yea, whoever commented, "a cali boy and a hick boy from KY dont get along?" that was amazing!

theyre just trying to be #1 american rider thats all.
hopper (i think) has more talent but ...... bikes while hayden has been getting the better bike