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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Oct 31 2006, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is what Mr. Shupe said on this question. “Of course there is a romanticism surrounding a racer who races hard no matter what, even if he risks crashing and losing the title. However, the rider doesn't do it alone. What about Nicky's crew? Should Nicky have raced for the win anyway and risk a crash, and possibly losing the title? Racing hard would have made Nicky look cool, but his crew would not have benefitted. Nicky's caution in preserving his title hopes was considerate to his crew's hard work (whether he was actually thinking about that or not). They want a championship too, you know.”
Now I could elaborate and expand for pages, but I think in this case, I will allow someone else to express it.
But I would like to add, if you review the video of the race, Hayden was the fastest man on the track just before Rossi crashed out. You can see this by the little red indicator next to the rider’s name. Moreover, at the moment that Rossi pressed too hard and crashed out, you can see that Hayden was positioned (poised/on the brink) of overtaking Bayliss. This to me indicates that he would have taken the lead and won the race had he needed to; however, simultaneously, due to Rossi’s crash, this was no longer a necessary risk. Furthermore, this was indicated to him by his pit board (who for all intents and purposes, represent his team). So, what I witnessed, is Hayden in complete control of his situation, and he did what a champion would do in this case, he proceeded to win the championship. That is a title, shared not only by Nicky as an individual, but by a plethora of others who have banked on the effort, as well as hopes, to be a world title holder. This is why racers, and other team sports, speak in the third person and use “we” to refer to themselves. But by no uncertain terms, Hayden was poised to win the race.
Others, on different threads have addressed this question, and perhaps more eloquently (as you see Mr. Shupe’s quote above), but if you are interested, you can read some of the other comments on the other threads regarding why Nicky had control to win but chose rather to win the championship.
(Perhaps this question deserves a new thread topic, in respect to the person who started this thread, I'm not trying to change the subject, but, I was asked.)
This was the question.
think you have just hit the nail on the head as to the reason why, perhaps, and this is only my own opinion, and that is if vale had of been in nicky's position with hayden down, he would have still went for the win. and how the public percieve this may be to see rossi as a battler to the very end, were as, and i believe we have seen it through out the year, nicky maybe backing off and being a little conservative, which to be fair has paid off for him this year due to vales dnf's. But i suppose it all depends on your own perspective?
what do you think!
Now I could elaborate and expand for pages, but I think in this case, I will allow someone else to express it.
But I would like to add, if you review the video of the race, Hayden was the fastest man on the track just before Rossi crashed out. You can see this by the little red indicator next to the rider’s name. Moreover, at the moment that Rossi pressed too hard and crashed out, you can see that Hayden was positioned (poised/on the brink) of overtaking Bayliss. This to me indicates that he would have taken the lead and won the race had he needed to; however, simultaneously, due to Rossi’s crash, this was no longer a necessary risk. Furthermore, this was indicated to him by his pit board (who for all intents and purposes, represent his team). So, what I witnessed, is Hayden in complete control of his situation, and he did what a champion would do in this case, he proceeded to win the championship. That is a title, shared not only by Nicky as an individual, but by a plethora of others who have banked on the effort, as well as hopes, to be a world title holder. This is why racers, and other team sports, speak in the third person and use “we” to refer to themselves. But by no uncertain terms, Hayden was poised to win the race.
Others, on different threads have addressed this question, and perhaps more eloquently (as you see Mr. Shupe’s quote above), but if you are interested, you can read some of the other comments on the other threads regarding why Nicky had control to win but chose rather to win the championship.
(Perhaps this question deserves a new thread topic, in respect to the person who started this thread, I'm not trying to change the subject, but, I was asked.)
This was the question.
think you have just hit the nail on the head as to the reason why, perhaps, and this is only my own opinion, and that is if vale had of been in nicky's position with hayden down, he would have still went for the win. and how the public percieve this may be to see rossi as a battler to the very end, were as, and i believe we have seen it through out the year, nicky maybe backing off and being a little conservative, which to be fair has paid off for him this year due to vales dnf's. But i suppose it all depends on your own perspective?
what do you think!