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2011 engine allocation

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NSW, Australia
Ok we going into the 7th race off the season and there hasn't been much talk about engine allocation, who's using what, lost engines etc. It appeared Lorenzo lost engine in the Le Mans crash and there was some talk during the Catalunya round that Hayden was on his 4th engine but thats about it really. Interested to see who's using what but can;t seem to find any info.



Kropo might be the man to ask?
 
Don't read too much into it.

Just because one rider is on his 4th engine ,it does not necessarily mean the other 3 engines used are cactus.
 
Once again we may see it start to take effect a little later on with the yams, ducati are no doubt juggling a lot between their two specs of crank. Honda once again will have the superior reliability however a few offs may make things tight.
 
does it really matter for the ducatis? qualify 13th and take a 5 grid penalty for 1 race, so they start the race 15th... boo hoo.
 
Oh no!! what are the odds!! just when Ducati are going to come good ......... they run out of engines!!
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I think in reality they have to ignore the "engine rules" ( as happened with Suzuki ) ...... can they really afford to lose a bike from the grid?
 
I take it the 9 for Suzuki is down to it being a one bike team ?



I'm with Schwantz and Beattie on that one.........what a pack of monkeys. Kawasaki were more pragmatic and thorough in their limited approach.
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What the hell Suzuki hope to achieve with one bike,Bautistsa ( no disrespect to him..........but he is not the person you need to develop a bike) and some test pilot whizzing around some Japanese circuts is beyond me.



Amatures.............And I'm a Suzuki fan.
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Help them Obi Burgess Kenobi.....you're their only hope.
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Suzuki has become the worst privateer machine in the field.



Maybe if they'd listened to Schwantz and co when they were trying to tell them things about the bike way back when,and tried an evolutionary approach rather than hand them a "Brand new and improved design" at the start of every season, they wouldn't be quite as bad a joke as they have been for the last.......well....I was going to say 20 years, but lets be honest.....they wouldn't have acomplished .... without Scwantz and his lack of respect for his own well being, and Roberts Jr plunking around for a season of top 5 finishes ( Good work KRj, for all the .... you copped.....how else could it have been done ??) in the the 35 years.



Talk about someone dragging something around by the neck !!!.........My suspicion is they're waiting ( well it bloody looks like it to me !) for the next Schwantz to come their way.



Then, like before, they'll get some wins, while still being able to preach the old Japanese manufacturers mantra of "It's not the bike, it's the rider"





What a pack of twits.



Give their spot to Krapasaski............. At least they were trying.



Rant finished. Apologies...........but after being a fan of them all my GP watching life, their lack of aplication, and wasted resources is really giving me the ......
 
Suzuki have 9 engines per season because they haven't won a race in few years, as silly as that sounds it's in the rule book.
 
If Suzuki is allowed 9 engines then surely a new works team like Norton (if they enter in Motogp) they would also be allowed 9 engines?
 
The rules:



Factories that have won a dry race recently: 6 engines per season.

Factories that have not won a dry race recently: 9 engines per season.

CRT teams: 12 engines per season.



This was done at the request of the factories.



And Kawasaki has zero interest in reentering MotoGP, even with the advent of the 1000s from 2012. They were spending something in the region of 65 million euros a year just to run around in mid-pack.
 
The rules:



Factories that have won a dry race recently: 6 engines per season.

Factories that have not won a dry race recently: 9 engines per season.

CRT teams: 12 engines per season.



This was done at the request of the factories.



And Kawasaki has zero interest in reentering MotoGP, even with the advent of the 1000s from 2012. They were spending something in the region of 65 million euros a year just to run around in mid-pack.



.....Isn't Suzuki doing the same ?



And for how long now ?



I know Kwaka aren't coming back.......but they were doing as well as Suzuki in the short time they were back after 25 years out of the sport..And if merit counts for anything, then they probably deserve to be there in place of Suzuki.



Shame Suzuki, Shame........



Very dissapointed Suzuki fan.
 
.....Isn't Suzuki doing the same ?



And for how long now ?



I know Kwaka aren't coming back.......but they were doing as well as Suzuki in the short time they were back after 25 years out of the sport..And if merit counts for anything, then they probably deserve to be there in place of Suzuki.



Shame Suzuki, Shame........



Very dissapointed Suzuki fan.



No. According to all reports. Suzuki have a very strict budgetary policy. Every year their anemic budget rises by a few percentage points. No aggressive courtship of outside money. No wild expenditures on new bikes. I think they are of the opinion that stable rules can only be developed so far. Rather than rushing towards the law of diminishing returns, Suzuki develop at a rather leisurely adagio.



Re: Engine Allocation



Tom Jojic (Aoyama's former crew chief, Bradley Smith's current crew chief) said that Honda teams were capable of doing all competition mileage and testing mileage on just 6 engines. Imo, Honda's engine allocation is mainly academic. Lorenzo's engine allocation data would seem to be the most pertinent bit of information regarding engines.
 
What exactly is the time frame? "Recently" as a word isn't very specific.

Could say...Ducati use 9 engines next year if they don't win a dry race this season?
 
Off the top of my head (can't find the FIM press release at the moment), it's no dry wins for 2 years, but don't quote me on that. If Ducati can't get a win this season and next, then they, too, would get 9 engines instead of 6. But it would be no good to them, as a lynch mob would have burnt the factory down by then.
 

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