It's amazing how much narrower the bikes look. I wonder if anyone will take a gamble on the longitudenly mounted I-4.
I'm guessing it won't happen. They'll probably keep overlapping cylinders until it's a W config. Still, it's interesting to think how much narrower these bikes are going to get.
I'm guessing it won't happen. They'll probably keep overlapping cylinders until it's a W config. Still, it's interesting to think how much narrower these bikes are going to get.
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wasnt sure to post it but here for those who want to see, its mondays test i think from motegi i see black prototypes
, its just an amatuer vid tho that someone has uploaded to youtube, cant see much but.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MICSvtE1wy8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MICSvtE1wy8
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jazkat @ Sep 26 2007, 02:44 AM) [snapback]93149[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
wasnt sure to post it but here for those who want to see, its mondays test i think from motegi i see black prototypes
, its just an amatuer vid tho that someone has uploaded to youtube, cant see much but.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MICSvtE1wy8
thanks
wasnt sure to post it but here for those who want to see, its mondays test i think from motegi i see black prototypes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MICSvtE1wy8
thanks
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mylexicon @ Sep 25 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]93148[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
It's amazing how much narrower the bikes look. I wonder if anyone will take a gamble on the longitudenly mounted I-4.
Something to do woth gyroscopic forces, the longitidenally arranged engines on bike are difficult to control
I am surprised none of the bike's engines were switched to screamers.
It's amazing how much narrower the bikes look. I wonder if anyone will take a gamble on the longitudenly mounted I-4.
Something to do woth gyroscopic forces, the longitidenally arranged engines on bike are difficult to control
I am surprised none of the bike's engines were switched to screamers.
Does anyone know if VW have a patent on their VR6 engine technology, i'd be interested to know if a VR4 would be any good in a gp bike.
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2008 yam prototype, bit more footage but only 45 seconds, as soon as a good length vid pops up ill post it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7emvjYeLZ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7emvjYeLZ0
These bike sound awesome, i only wish they didn't turn the volume down for those silly commentators to blabber on.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Sep 27 2007, 02:51 AM) [snapback]93276[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Does anyone know if VW have a patent on their VR6 engine technology, i'd be interested to know if a VR4 would be any good in a gp bike.
I don't think the VR would have any signficant advantages over the standard V configuration. But, the engine would be wider resulting in reduced ground clearance when leaned over. Plus, the engine may be more difficult to cool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine
Does anyone know if VW have a patent on their VR6 engine technology, i'd be interested to know if a VR4 would be any good in a gp bike.
I don't think the VR would have any signficant advantages over the standard V configuration. But, the engine would be wider resulting in reduced ground clearance when leaned over. Plus, the engine may be more difficult to cool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(crvlvr @ Sep 27 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]93320[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I don't think the VR would have any signficant advantages over the standard V configuration. But, the engine would be wider resulting in reduced ground clearance when leaned over. Plus, the engine may be more difficult to cool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine
Well that's true. But VR is narrower than inline config and would allow teams like Yamaha and Kawasaki to keep the engine mass close to the front wheel while making the chassis narrower.
It's definitely of no use to the V-4 runners but the W config may be useful if they have room for a lengthened engine. I'm not sure about the complications. Obviously, a W4 would be significantly different than a W8 because it would be pointless for a W4 to have any cylinders on a matching horizontal axis. A horizontal axis for each cylinder causes serious valve acutation issues that I could never solve without the use of four cams. I guess that's why I don't work in the paddock.
I don't think the VR would have any signficant advantages over the standard V configuration. But, the engine would be wider resulting in reduced ground clearance when leaned over. Plus, the engine may be more difficult to cool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine
Well that's true. But VR is narrower than inline config and would allow teams like Yamaha and Kawasaki to keep the engine mass close to the front wheel while making the chassis narrower.
It's definitely of no use to the V-4 runners but the W config may be useful if they have room for a lengthened engine. I'm not sure about the complications. Obviously, a W4 would be significantly different than a W8 because it would be pointless for a W4 to have any cylinders on a matching horizontal axis. A horizontal axis for each cylinder causes serious valve acutation issues that I could never solve without the use of four cams. I guess that's why I don't work in the paddock.
IMHO, unless you make the engine narrower, increasing the number of banks , say V to W won;t make much of a difference. A W 4 engine will still need to have 2 transverse cylinders on one of the banks. now a W 3 may be slimmer, but think of the complexity of routing all those exhaust pipes
W engine is totally out of the question with only 4 cylinders, i just considered a VR 4 could be better than an inline, but i don't know enough about it right now, and i'm pretty sure its not free to use technology, or else we would see more cars using it.
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2008 Yamaha
2008 Suzuki
'Valentino Is God' ...NOT ANY MORE!!! IT;S CASEY NOW!!!
Btw...VALENTINO HASENT BEEN "GOD" FOR 2 YEARS!!!...WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING???
2008 Yamaha
2008 Suzuki
'Valentino Is God' ...NOT ANY MORE!!! IT;S CASEY NOW!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Sep 28 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]93350[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
'Valentino Is God' ...NOT ANY MORE!!! IT;S CASEY NOW!!!
Btw...VALENTINO HASENT BEEN "GOD" FOR 2 YEARS!!!...WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING???
GTF OUT you vegitized gerbil, valentino may not be god but....could you see casey just gettin on any bike and winning the championship....NO and only traction control kept him on this one..... it will be funny to watch melandri punish his ... next year.
SPRAY HIM DOWN
'Valentino Is God' ...NOT ANY MORE!!! IT;S CASEY NOW!!!
GTF OUT you vegitized gerbil, valentino may not be god but....could you see casey just gettin on any bike and winning the championship....NO and only traction control kept him on this one..... it will be funny to watch melandri punish his ... next year.
SPRAY HIM DOWN
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Sep 28 2007, 05:27 AM) [snapback]93350[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
'Valentino Is God' ...NOT ANY MORE!!! IT;S CASEY NOW!!!
Btw...VALENTINO HASENT BEEN "GOD" FOR 2 YEARS!!!...WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING???
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