Xaus MotoGP WC 07 & 08

Xaus is 6' foot tall and has starved himself to 75kg.........so keep dreamin.

If a rider is over 5'6" or over 140lbs he ain't getting a serious look. These little bikes don't have the bottom end to tow around a normal sized human being.

I'm a huge fan of Xaus, but he way too big and too old to have any chance at it.

I have accepted that speculating who may or may not be able to ride a ducati motogp successfully is nearly impossible. With only one rider able to do it how can we find a pattern or identify an atribute of his which makes the difference?

One thing i do know is that if i was chosing a worthy rider it wouldn't be a second rate world superbike rider who consistently falls off a widely accepted "easy to ride" bike. On the other hand he doesn't have a lot to lose from his position, so if he was given the chance i'd support it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ Apr 28 2008, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No different to Stoner then ?

Well that depends if you consider a promising motogp rookie to be equal to an experienced but underachieving superbike rider. I certainly don't.

Xaus is good but not good enough imo.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Apr 28 2008, 02:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>second rate world superbike rider
According to you, nobody is first rate in WSBK. Even when Bayliss came over and kick ... on a one-off you still stick your head in the sand about superbikers. Xaus is usually a front-runner, especially this year, of course when Haga doesn't give an inch, then we have what happened in Assen. Yes, Xaus is a crasher, but certainly NOT a second rate rider in superbikes. He has wins and podiums to show for it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Apr 28 2008, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Xaus is good but not good enough imo.
I agree with this.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 28 2008, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>According to you, nobody is first rate in WSBK. Even when Bayliss came over and kick ... on a one-off you still stick your head in the sand about superbikers. Xaus is usually a front-runner, especially this year, of course when Haga doesn't give an inch, then we have what happened in Assen. Yes, Xaus is a crasher, but certainly NOT a second rate rider in superbikes. He has wins and podiums to show for it.

I think Xaus is turning into another 'Mamola'.

He's fast, no doubt about it. But he's missing that last part you need to become champ.

He's managing to beat Biaggi quite soundly, so SBK riders aren't THAT .....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Apr 28 2008, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think Xaus is turning into another 'Mamola'.
You say that like it’s a bad thing. Randy had the luck of having to compete with the legends of the sport. He did quite well actually, was runner up several times. Don't be like Tom who rates riders on who many titles they won. Don't make the mistake of analysis rider's careers base on one aspect, but rather a little more comprehensive. Mamola has the most wins of any rider never to win a title. That says a lot when you consider the company of the grid he was racing with.

Check out the list of the front runners on the grid during his racing years, I think you will find that it reads like a whos who of the MotoGP legends.

Perhaps you think he's overrated? (Joke)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 28 2008, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You say that like it’s a bad thing. Randy had the luck of having to compete with the legends of the sport. He did quite well actually, was runner up several times. Don't be like Tom who rates riders on who many titles they won. Don't make the mistake of analysis rider's careers base on one aspect, but rather a little more comprehensive. Mamola has the most wins of any rider never to win a title. That says a lot when you consider the company of the grid he was racing with.

Oh no, I don't mean it like that.

Ruben is a great rider, but I don't think he has the ability to be champion, or just yet atleast. I thought 03 would have been his best chance (999 on Michelins) but he had a tendency to crash then, although his end of season form was electric.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 28 2008, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Don't make the mistake of analysis rider's careers base on one aspect, but rather a little more comprehensive. Mamola has the most wins of any rider never to win a title. That says a lot when you consider the company of the grid he was racing with.
damn right !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Apr 28 2008, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He's managing to beat Biaggi quite soundly, so SBK riders aren't THAT .....
I'm not sure that I'd say "quite soundly" just yet. First track, Biaggi was a tad better but both were quick. Then Biaggi's clutch lever fell off or something before superpole, he got a crap grid position, and he went batty trying to overcompensate, crashed rather spectacularly twice, and screwed up his hand. I doubt he's back to full strength yet.

I should hope most anyone half-decent would be beating their teammate soundly on points when that teammate starts out like Biaggi has this season. If anyone the one "beating Biaggi soundly" is Biaggi as he's completely taken himself out of reasonable contention.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ Apr 28 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I must admit that former MotoGp star and proven race winner and Rossi arse kicker Tamada aint fairing to well in WSBK. He had a few .... years in GPs and hes out and now doin nowt in WSBK. Xaus had one bad year in GPs now hes back in WSBK in a team he originally funded by himself and hes proven himself. Top rider.
Tamada doesn't exactly have a top-notch ride in WSBK to do anything with, either.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Apr 28 2008, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh no, I don't mean it like that.

Ruben is a great rider, but I don't think he has the ability to be champion, or just yet atleast. I thought 03 would have been his best chance (999 on Michelins) but he had a tendency to crash then, although his end of season form was electric.
Yeah, I would agree with that.


BTW, Rog, love the new avatar. Facking hilarious.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 28 2008, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>According to you, nobody is first rate in WSBK. Even when Bayliss came over and kick ... on a one-off you still stick your head in the sand about superbikers. Xaus is usually a front-runner, especially this year, of course when Haga doesn't give an inch, then we have what happened in Assen. Yes, Xaus is a crasher, but certainly NOT a second rate rider in superbikes. He has wins and podiums to show for it.

I consider him as second rate because the first rate superbike riders are the ones fighting for the championship. Ruben has been stronger than he currently is i know, but hes never looked like a champion.

Well Xaus IMO did pretty well in MotoGP with the Ducati, considering it was a DANTIN one year old Ducati, he managed a podium in Qatar if my memory is correct. That as good as a D'Antin Ducati has ever been.

I don't agree about the size issue, that's just a Nickyfan excuse, the only tiny rider excelling is Pedrosa the rest of tiny fellas are nowhere (Elias, Melandri, Capirossi ...) Normal size guys like Rossi, Lorenzo, Stoner etc are doing fine.

Still saying he would be WC is quite a stretch, he is fast but he's never been that consistent. You can argue that Stoner was a crasher too till he got a factory bike that was as good as any and then won the championship.

It's quite evident WSBK is a 2nd division, best guys in WSBK go to MotoGP and not performing riders in MotoGP go to WSBK and it makes a lot of sense cause that's why MotoGP riders get paid more!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Apr 28 2008, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well Xaus IMO did pretty well in MotoGP with the Ducati, considering it was a DANTIN one year old Ducati, he managed a podium in Qatar if my memory is correct. That as good as a D'Antin Ducati has ever been.

I don't agree about the size issue, that's just a Nickyfan excuse, the only tiny rider excelling is Pedrosa the rest of tiny fellas are nowhere (Elias, Melandri, Capirossi ...) Normal size guys like Rossi, Lorenzo, Stoner etc are doing fine.

Still saying he would be WC is quite a stretch, he is fast but he's never been that consistent. You can argue that Stoner was a crasher too till he got a factory bike that was as good as any and then won the championship.

It's quite evident WSBK is a 2nd division, best guys in WSBK go to MotoGP and not performing riders in MotoGP go to WSBK and it makes a lot of sense cause that's why MotoGP riders get paid more!!




Please. Adrianna weighs more than Casey.

Normal-sized my ....

Wait, I'm sorry, you're right. 5'6 130 lbs is normal sized..................if you have two X chromosomes.

The only normal sized riders on the grid, by European standards, are Rossi, Edwards, Hopper and Nicky. So far, no one over 60kg has won a race this season. Sorry to burst you're bubble but these horse jockeys are ruining the glamor of the sport.

When a rider is 1 foot shorter than the trophy girl, there is a serious problem.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Apr 28 2008, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>just a Nickyfan excuse...Normal size guys like Rossi, Lorenzo, Stoner etc are doing fine.

It's quite evident WSBK is a 2nd division, best guys in WSBK go to MotoGP and not performing riders in MotoGP go to WSBK and it makes a lot of sense cause that's why MotoGP riders get paid more!!
Haha, yeah, Casey is normal sized among what, dwarfs?

So pay is how we are judging the best riders? Wow, I guess the AMA is a lot better than I thought.

The only reason why it may seem to you that WSBK is a "2nd division" is because the focus is so narrow in MotoGP that they effectively force out would be challengers. What an embarrassment it must have been to Dorna that Bayliss came on a one off and kicked everybody’s .... Yeah, a guy from a "2nd division". Last I check, the MotoGP guys haven't exactly lit the world on fire in WSBK (Tamada, Scud-Checa, Biaggi). Biaggi, a runner-up to the great Rossi and front-runner in MotoGP (or have your forgot where he ranks in the all time wins list) has managed how many wins in how many attempts against those second tier riders? Oh yeah, WSBK riders suck.

Need you inject a dig at Hayden fans because you have such a weak position that you need to deflect attention from your inability to carry a point?