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WSBK Misano

povol

povol

Joined Feb 2007
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Misano Adriatico - FIM Superbike World Championship - Free Practice



1. Marco Melandri (BMW Motorrad Motorsport) BMW S1000 RR 1'36.613

2. Carlos Checa (Althea Racing) Ducati 1098R 1'36.735

3. Sylvain Guintoli (Team Effenbert Liberty Racing) Ducati 1098R 1'37.135

4. Niccolò Canepa (Red Devils Roma) Ducati 1098R 1'37.175

5. Leon Camier (FIXI Crescent Suzuki) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'37.229

6. Ayrton Badovini (BMW Motorrad Italia GoldBet) BMW S1000 RR 1'37.448

7. Max Biaggi (Aprilia Racing Team) Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'37.523

8. Jonathan Rea (Honda World Superbike Team) Honda CBR1000RR 1'37.627

9. David Salom (Team Pedercini) Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'37.641

10. Leon Haslam (BMW Motorrad Motorsport) BMW S1000 RR 1'37.713

11. Jakub Smrz (Liberty Racing Team Effenbert) Ducati 1098R 1'37.740

12. Lorenzo Zanetti (PATA Racing Team) Ducati 1098R 1'37.778

13. Tom Sykes (Kawasaki Racing Team) Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'37.807

14. Michel Fabrizio (BMW Motorrad Italia GoldBet) BMW S1000 RR 1'37.936

15. Eugene Laverty (Aprilia Racing Team) Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'37.937

16. Loris Baz (Kawasaki Racing Team) Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'37.943

17. Matteo Baiocco (Barni Racing Team Italia) Ducati 1098R 1'37.967

18. Chaz Davies (ParkinGO MTC Racing) Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'38.022

19. Davide Giugliano (Althea Racing) Ducati 1098R 1'38.053

20. John Hopkins (FIXI Crescent Suzuki) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'38.403

21. Hiroshi Aoyama (Honda World Superbike Team) Honda CBR1000RR 1'38.478

22. Maxime Berger (Team Effenbert Liberty Racing) Ducati 1098R 1'38.730

23. Leandro Mercado (Team Pedercini) Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'39.242

24. Federico Sandi (Grillini Progea Superbike Team) BMW S1000 RR 1'40.781
 
Checa has tried to give the title away and no one would take it. I look for him to make a serious move with a double this weekend. Melandri and BMW are gelling nicely, he is separating himself from his teammate. Still think he is GP talent every bit as good as Dovi or Crutchlow
 
awesome performance by biaggi.

awesome race in general, can't wait for race 2 !
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unfortunately problems for melandri, would have made it even more exciting had he been able to stay with the front runners.

rea and sykes need to manage their tyres, its the same at almost every track for those 2
 
cliché guevara said:
awesome performance by biaggi.

awesome race in general, can't wait for race 2 !
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unfortunately problems for melandri, would have made it even more exciting had he been able to stay with the front runners.

rea and sykes need to manage their tyres, its the same at almost every track for those 2
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Agree - the Kawasaki in particular seems to chew them though. Misano is an odd surface - questionable grip and very sensitive to tyre choice.



Both Checa and Biaggi are so smooth in their styles in contrast to Rea and Sykes - who definitely have the speed but I think that the Max/Aprilia and the Carlos/Ducati packages are very hard to challenge right now.



I much preferred this place when it went left.
 
yes, other than the fast right handers there isn't much there.



i suspect maybe the kawasaki is the bike that works best with the qualifyer,to be honest i don't see something extra special in sykes.

on the other hand rea looks like the real deal,but what else besides over riding the machine can you do to compensate for a not so good bike.
 
cliché guevara said:
awesome performance by biaggi.

awesome race in general, can't wait for race 2 !
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unfortunately problems for melandri, would have made it even more exciting had he been able to stay with the front runners.

rea and sykes need to manage their tyres, its the same at almost every track for those 2
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Agree great race,

I think the tyre issue is you can have the best of it at the beginning or take it later.

Biaggi and Checa showed their experience and let the others go whilst maintaining constant lap times.

Bit of a speeded up hare and tortoise race
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Biaggi owned everyone in both races. How critical will the fall by checa after getting hit by Melandri be in the championship standings?

My $20 @ 8/1 on Biaggi before the season started is looking pretty good right now.
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Phenomenal Race 1!! This series is the top dog at the moment, no doubt. Well done Max! Great to see that rubber choices can be detrimental, and that the riders/teams need to get it right, makes for great racing and spectacle-well done Pirelli!
 
Max has consistency and ride with cool head. Great race but Melandry did it again in Race 2. This time to Checa. I think the champion is for Max this year .
 
Great races this weekend by the WSBK guys. Watching race one unfold was great, seeing the two veterans pick thru traffic to work their way up to 1 and 2 by the finish. Race 2 was a blow out by Biaggi! I think the only guy that could have possibly pulled Biaggi back was Checa, but that is difficult when you get parked on the tarmac.
 
povol said:
Checa has tried to give the title away and no one would take it. I look for him to make a serious move with a double this weekend.
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Though he can blame Melandri for this (who has increasingly become Reaesk).



povol said:
Melandri and BMW are gelling nicely, he is separating himself from his teammate. Still think he is GP talent every bit as good as Dovi or Crutchlow
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Despite his two wins, I still don't rate him better than his teammate. Haslam would have bested him in both UK races had he Melandri not run him off the road. Marco got away with the wins but he is still not better. The season will bare this out.



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Anyway, great races thanks to the tricky tire choices (pitfalls). Wsbk doesn't get the respect it deserves in terms of the racing show. You would think its more popular since most casual observers can't distinguish what makes or breaks the winners. The racing was very entertaining, but the winners came down to the right tire choice. For those who want a tire war in GP, this is what can happen, imagine everybody on the inferior tire manufacture, they, like the riders that picked the wrong tire, will never have a chance to win. Some might even quit from the race, ala Marco Melandri.
 
yes but different tyre choice is something different to being stuck on the wrong brand.

i'm not a fan of tyre wars,but i think it would do no harm if bridgestone would be able to provide more than just two options of which generally only one works (although it appears it has been worse in the past)



(thank god there are no big melandri fans on this forum,wsbk has all the potential for a leo-bopper vs marco war on this forum
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to be honest i don't know too much about the pirellis in wsbk , i know there are 4 options available at the races + qualifying tyres right?

are sykes and rea generally on the hardest compound in the race?they better be, its frustrating to see them fade in the race as a rule of thumb
 
cliché guevara said:
awesome performance by biaggi. awesome race in general, can't wait for race 2 !
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unfortunately problems for melandri, would have made it even more exciting had he been able to stay with the front runners. rea and sykes need to manage their tyres, its the same at almost every track for those 2
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Disagree. There was NO issue of tire management, the issue was TIRE CHOICE. Rea picked the wrong tires, Sykes Kawasaki destroys tires. Melandri is a quiter.
 
lil red rocket pilot said:
Agree great race,

I think the tyre issue is you can have the best of it at the beginning or take it later.

Biaggi and Checa showed their experience and let the others go whilst maintaining constant lap times.

Bit of a speeded up hare and tortoise race
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How they would do at the end of the race was decided before the parade lap.









Frizzle said:
Biaggi owned everyone in both races. How critical will the fall by checa after getting hit by Melandri be in the championship standings?

My $20 @ 8/1 on Biaggi before the season started is looking pretty good right now.
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Agree. But we all should have known at PI this would be the case; after he ran off track then proceeded on motoring through the field. The lack of parity is insane. Call me cynical.











Talpa said:
Great to see that rubber choices can be detrimental, and that the riders/teams need to get it right, makes for great racing and spectacle-well done Pirelli!
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CORRECT!
 
something i've wondered for a long time now : how exactly does a bike destroy tyres? i know twins are softer on the rubber, i know peaky engine characteristics and screamers in particular stress the tyre more but what exactly is the difference between the ninja and say a suzuki?

if the kawa offers more traction for example its up to the crew/rider to use less of it/ use a harder tyre
 
I agree but even all on the same rubber you would see some try to make a brake for it and fall back later on their laptimes and others maintaining steady laptimes coming back into it later.

Sykes is a prime example, he has to lead.

I reckon if he played it a bit calmer and just stayed with the leaders he would fare better towards the end of the race and probs be in a better position.

I suppose Biaggi was the exception to the rule though.



Edit: this was for Jumks just forgot to hit the quote tab.
 

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