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Why the spaced out calendar?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 27 2008, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Interesting that a <u>Brit</u> brought this up (who get 10x the coverage we get) yet still makes a good case for it being spaced out. Using your reasoning then Sally, there is already too much on. Hell we got March Madness (college basketball tournament ), NBA in full swing, NASCAR, Spring training in Baseball, hell, I’m sure if we look hard enough we can find some under-water-basket-weaving competition some where, ect, ect. But I thought this thread was about MotoGP. Maybe you are right, you should just focus on one thing at a time being that multitasking isn’t your thing.
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So you're comparing NBA, March Madness ,and some Baseball to motorsport now Jumkie?
At least Sal was offering more 'petrolhead' action (and world championships to boot, not just country specific sports as you've mentioned).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 27 2008, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Interesting that a <u>Brit</u> brought this up (who get 10x the coverage we get) yet still makes a good case for it being spaced out. Using your reasoning then Sally, there is already too much on. Hell we got March Madness (college basketball tournament ), NBA in full swing, NASCAR, Spring training in Baseball, hell, I’m sure if we look hard enough we can find some under-water-basket-weaving competition some where, ect, ect. But I thought this thread was about MotoGP. Maybe you are right, you should just focus on one thing at a time being that multitasking isn’t your thing.
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Hey, if the sports offered where you are are not your thing (football - soccer to you - predominates in the UK and WSBK and even BSB was not shown live on terrestrial last year) then try sticking "racing" and "underground" in google. That should give you enough stuff to watch when the basket weaving's on.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rgvneil @ Mar 27 2008, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So you're comparing NBA, March Madness ,and some Baseball to motorsport now Jumkie?
At least Sal was offering more 'petrolhead' action (and world championships to boot, not just country specific sports as you've mentioned).
Remember that many Americans don't do irony
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 27 2008, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Interesting that a <u>Brit</u> brought this up (who get 10x the coverage we get) yet still makes a good case for it being spaced out. Using your reasoning then Sally, there is already too much on. Hell we got March Madness (college basketball tournament ), NBA in full swing, NASCAR, Spring training in Baseball, hell, I’m sure if we look hard enough we can find some under-water-basket-weaving competition some where, ect, ect. But I thought this thread was about MotoGP. Maybe you are right, you should just focus on one thing at a time being that multitasking isn’t your thing.
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Yea it really sucks to be in a country where we have so many choices of entertainment
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If my choice was Moto GP or cricket,i would patiently wait for Moto Gp also.But since we do have many different choices of entertainment,it stands to reason that the fringe fan will find something else to spend his money on when he gets bored.Having nothing to do for 3 weeks is not an option in the US,thats why F1 is also an also ran sport here.To the other guy who says that every race is important for the WC,name me a series where its not.If there is a points system involved, every race counts in every series.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sally @ Mar 27 2008, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have to say, changing the calendars simply because some Yanks with the attention span of gnats get their fix in time is a bit berserk to me.

The calendar has a few gaps at the beginning yes, but if you follow F1, MotoGP and throw in some WSBK and AMA you end with back to back and overlapping weekends for most of March to November.
So honestly...

Spoken like someone who is truly ignorant.

GPs used to be rare stand-alone individual events. To increase profits the sport has been sold to the highest bidder and now we have an incoherent melange of international events that follow no known pattern. The current schedule also has no known purpose outside of assigning arbitrary points values to each participant in order to determine which rider is superior over 1 calendar year.

In 1980 there were 8 GP's by 1990 there were 15. For nearly 2 decades there hasn't been a discernible pattern. To take the "next step" GP needs to do 2 things imo. 1) arrange the events in a manner that makes it easy for fans, manufacturers, and participants to understand. 2) keep the sport focused on the riders and not the latest technology (if I had known that 4-strokes would open Pandora's box, I wouldn't have been so eager to see them race).

It has nothing to do with attention span. I like things to be organized in a format that is easy to follow so that I can invest my time in watching races, following sub plots, and evaluating the motogp talent pool. I dislike having to rewatch prior races and research points totals before every round just so I can have a frame of reference for the current event.

I know media that portrays Americans as dim, fat, hyperactive, and uneducated is a product you can't stop consuming (
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omg do you get it now), but we are rather accomplished for gnats, don't you think?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rgvneil @ Mar 27 2008, 08:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So you're comparing NBA, March Madness ,and some Baseball to motorsport now Jumkie?
At least Sal was offering more 'petrolhead' action (and world championships to boot, not just country specific sports as you've mentioned).
No, only somebody like you would think I was "comparing" anything. Get a dictionary out and a book on reasoning and logic, it may do you some good. Obviously you missed the point by a country mile.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Mar 27 2008, 08:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>looks at his original post

06 calendar again please!
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No ..... I guess some people are content on just reading one post then proceed in sticking foot-in-mouth.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Mar 27 2008, 08:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Remember that many Americans don't do irony
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Now this is rather; ironic.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 27 2008, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know media that portrays Americans as dim, fat, hyperactive, and uneducated is a product you can't stop consuming (
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omg do you get it now)
Remember that many <strike>Americans</strike> Sally & Company don't do irony.
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I'm quoting you as you've made a point I want to pick up on.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 26 2008, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Motogp has that stupid agreement with Formula 1. I think in the future there will be more "primetime" races at night. Hopefully, this will allow F1 and MGP to run on the same day at different times.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the MAJORITY of MotoGP fans aren't F1 fans or vice versa. I don't see either putting a dent into TV figures.

Unless Dorna main demographic is the casual viewer? One would imagine that is F1's strength seeing as Motogp is preferred by bikers.
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BTW... Thanks Jumkie, this emboldening of words does seem to work.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 27 2008, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It has nothing to do with attention span. I like things to be organized in a format that is easy to follow so that I can invest my time in watching races, following sub plots, and evaluating the motogp talent pool. I dislike having to rewatch prior races and research points totals before every round just so I can have a frame of reference for the current event.

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Where to begin?
So basically you now admit to not having any sort of memory. Or the ability to click on the points standings overview on the MotoGP site (an action that takes oh.... 5 seconds?) before opening LT for FP1.

And for all those that think that MotoGP fans don't watch F1 or vice versa. You may whine on otherwise but why on earth did the FIA and the FIM then decide to coordinate their calendars if there was no or only a very small overlapping (TV) audience?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sally @ Mar 27 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So basically you now admit to not having any sort of memory.
Rhyme and reason. Have you heard of it? You completely missed the point (as have your +1 brigade).

For someone who makes an issue of "attention span" you don't seem to have much of one.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 27 2008, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rhyme and reason. Have you heard of it? You completely missed the point (as have your +1 brigade).

For someone who makes an issue of "attention span" you don't seem to have much of one.

I haven't missed any point, I simply called you on contradicting yourself and your no gnat claim.

And while I also feel that having a steady calendar with a race every other weekend would be bliss, we don't. At least not in March and April 2008. But do I whine about it? Or come up with arguments along the lines of "I can't remember what happened three weeks ago?"

No, and that is because we will also have MotoGP 4 out of 5! weekends in June and back to backs in July and October.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sally @ Mar 27 2008, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Where to begin?
So basically you now admit to not having any sort of memory. Or the ability to click on the points standings overview on the MotoGP site (an action that takes oh.... 5 seconds?) before opening LT for FP1.

And for all those that think that MotoGP fans don't watch F1 or vice versa. You may whine on otherwise but why on earth did the FIA and the FIM then decide to coordinate their calendars if there was no or only a very small overlapping (TV) audience?

My life is a never ending comedy. I go around tying nooses and putting stools underneath them, and people just walk right up and hang themselves.

Basically.....................................wait, what was I saying. A McDonald's commercial just came on. I want a Big Mac so bad right now.

Ummmmmm................oh yeah. I was just talking about how I would prefer not to have any breaks and I would prefer to stay engaged in the sport over long periods of time because............................maybe I should get Taco Bell instead.......................ummmmm because my short term memory is highly adaptable. Furthermore, I learn better when I'm engrossed in organized material over long periods of time without breaks.

But if you need to take a breather after one round, I'll just have to accept the fact not everyone can focus as long as I can.

If you were actually trying to ask me why I'm unable to sit idle and daydream about motogp for weeks on end, it's because I have a work ethic. From what I understand such technical socio-sciences are not yet understood in Europe.

Good thing I wrote all that down on index cards before I typed it, I might have forgotten what I was trying to say. When is the next motogp event anyways?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 27 2008, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anyhoo
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.... James Toseland's swedish violinist friend has a heaps better calendar ...... and its far more interesting!!

http://www.calendariomania.com/it/donne/ch...tte_2004/99.htm

apparenty he will be playing a duet with her

But I think they mean with musical instruments


Pretty "Spaced out" calendar though!!
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Dude, what a great link. (Almost as good as the Hong Kong World...well you know).
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You're gonna make Bikergirl jealous, she love James Toes.
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And yes, I agree, the MotoGP calendar is "spaced out" for us "MotoGP" fans, but hey I'm sure there are plenty of other sports you can watch that will make the calendar magically appear shorter.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 27 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Basically.....................................wait, what was I saying. A McDonald's commercial just came on. I want a Big Mac so bad right now.
Dude, your post had me rolling.
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"Ironically" though, I think its satire will be lost on those with an attention span of a gnat (not to mention the IQ of such a lower life form).
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sally @ Mar 27 2008, 02:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have to say, changing the calendars simply because some <u>Yanks</u> with the attention span of gnats get their fix in time is a bit berserk to me.

The calendar has a few gaps at the beginning yes, but if you follow F1...

Silly-Statement-Sally.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sally @ Mar 27 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I haven't missed any point, I simply called you on contradicting yourself and your no gnat claim.

My “no gnat claim”? Uhm, are you having problems reading or just confused, because I don’t recall claiming anything about “gnats” (if so quote me); but you certainly did. Oh, and so what did I say that was “contradicting” to you?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sally @ Mar 27 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And while I also feel that having a steady calendar with a race every other weekend would be bliss, we don't. At least not in March and April 2008. But do I whine about it?

Perhaps you are not aware that you joined a forum whose members are predominantly obsessed with MotoGP. And as such, we talk about everything concerning MotoGP. This thread, started by a Brit coincidently, pointed out the space between MotoGP races (especially at the beginning) to discuss. And such we have; yet your interjection was to say no need to discuss about changes because Yanks have a poor attention span. There seems to be a bit of a disconnect here, don’t you think? (Rhetorical: Sometimes there is a need for an attention span and the required elementary comprehension that would be required to make such an analysis, no need to try and answer this question).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sally @ Mar 27 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Or come up with arguments along the lines of "I can't remember what happened three weeks ago?"

The issue was NOT that people won’t remember, but that “interest” will not be sustained for the casual fan (perhaps subtleties in words and their meanings are lost with you, but no worries, I would be happy to send you a dictionary). We are not the "only" country with short-term memory people, as you have proved.

As a fan of ‘MotoGP’, I’m not as interested in the list of other sports you suggest I should be watching to make the time go by, after-all, we are talking MotoGP here (or did you miss that). So your list of 'other things' to watch is IRRELEVANT to the thread topic. (So what if there was an F1 race every-single-day between MotoGP races, what the hell does that have to do with MotoGP?) But of course, you felt it was relevant (again, you missed the sarcasm in me offering ‘another list’ of things to grab our attention that would magically make the time between MotoGP races appear shorter).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sally @ Mar 27 2008, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No, and that is because we will also have MotoGP 4 out of 5! Weekends in June and back to backs in July and October.

This is NOT news. Us MotoGP fans are aware of this. But at the start of the season there are major gaps; 3 events in 8 weeks (2 months: two 3-week cycles with a 2-week one sandwiched in between). To me, it’s a rather exasperating way to start a racing season (for those of us MotoGP fans who have been waiting in anticipation). We get one event, then wait almost a month for another, after which we wait 2 weeks, then again almost a month for the third. This is what was being discussed; that is, until you decided to make a rather irrelevant and inaccurate statement about “yanks” and other .... that ‘could’ interest us (yet still this would not effect the MotoGP calendar now would it).


I realize you are new to this forum. And so welcome, please hang around. We always need more members to bounce ideas and opinions off of in our discussions, even when its just ........ we are talking about.
 
As long as there's racing who gives a ....?
I can quite easily work out what's going on after a few weeks - I have no idea why some people can't.
And personally, I think the less work I have to do the better it is - so what if the Europeans work less than Americans? Good luck to them. To me a 35/38 hour week is a hell of a lot better than a 45/50 hour week!
We all know Americans have no attention span - look at how many add breaks they need in their major sports - or you could look at it this way - look how many sports breaks they have between commercials.
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Being someone who watched F1 and Motogp i don't find the spaces a bother really, there is a race on almost every weekend. I would say i have more of a problem with having something i want to watch every sunday of the summer so i have less time to play outside, i wish more races would be in the evening or something.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Mar 28 2008, 02:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would say i have more of a problem with having something i want to watch every sunday of the summer so i have less time to play outside, i wish more races would be in the evening or something.
hmmmmmm..... maybe night racing in europe then.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 27 2008, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anyhoo
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.... James Toseland's swedish violinist friend has a heaps better calendar ...... and its far more interesting!!

http://www.calendariomania.com/it/donne/ch...tte_2004/99.htm

apparenty he will be playing a duet with her

But I think they mean with musical instruments


Pretty "Spaced out" calendar though!!
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Put .... on that, Barry.

I don't want my clients to think their fees subsidize my "social agenda".
 

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