Whose record is worst??? Capirossi or Barros in the time that they have been in 500/motoGP???
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Aug 1 2007, 05:04 PM) [snapback]82600[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
A great rider wins the wc’p and looks like winning one but these guys never did and never will, exsamples of great riders are.. Kenny Sr...Sheen...Spencer...Lawson...Rainey...Doohan...Rossi...its a simple as that!!! That is all that I'm saying!!!
How can you forget the man with more wins than Rainey, Spencer, KRSR & Sheen. Not to mention he is the man whom Valentino Rossi aspired to race like.
His number (34) is retired by the FIM. He racked up 25 wins on a SUZUKI!!!!
Kevin Schwantz.
Anyway, I give Barros the nod in the who is worse battle. Barros is not as good as Capi.
A great rider wins the wc’p and looks like winning one but these guys never did and never will, exsamples of great riders are.. Kenny Sr...Sheen...Spencer...Lawson...Rainey...Doohan...Rossi...its a simple as that!!! That is all that I'm saying!!!
His number (34) is retired by the FIM. He racked up 25 wins on a SUZUKI!!!!
Kevin Schwantz.
Anyway, I give Barros the nod in the who is worse battle. Barros is not as good as Capi.
Please I would just like to make a serious statement if I may!!!... and I hope that the members will take it for what it is...
I have been following this beautiful and inspiring sport for over 3 decades...I’ve been inspired by every champion...Kenny Sr, Sheen who was such a brave and inspirational champion, he never said die or whatever happened was never deterred from racing, a really great champion and human being!!!... Spencer on the other hand who I thought in those days was an absolute legend!!! what...when he won the 250cc & 500 championships in one year...he use to get off the 250cc and race the 500cc within 15 minutes...and then Lawson, Gardner, Mamola who had the first on board camera and crash that was documented on screen, that was really exciting times and Ron Haslam with his revolutionary bike and steering (you see I’ve already put 1&1/4, as Haslam was about a ¼ the rider that Sheen was...but I’ve put the great British riders in the modern era here...lol) and then we had the great Rainey who I think would have achieved everything that was before him!!! And he would have really put a dint into Doohan’s career as I don’t think that Mick would have beaten Wayne and would have achieved the records that he did!!! Well Schwantz was an exciting great to watch kamikazi, determined and a go between champ...great never the less for Suzuki!!!....
So now we come onto the modern greats Doohan & Rossi and of course there were lots of other mediocre riders that my memory escapes but what I am trying to point out on this topic is that yes there are riders that make up the numbers and are good in bursts but you can never ever compare them and say that they are great...the greats are the riders that have won world championships and have shown how the rideability of there bikes are portrayed to their limit race in and race out and that is for every year that they have ridden them be it in the 500 or motoGP class...
And this is the same in 2007....sorry to be bashing the Aussie cause again but...Stoner reminds me of the greats of the past....Spencer was a classic just like Stoner is in 2007 and that is why I can honestly and truly say that Stoner will be a champion...and Capirossi and Barros have missed out now and in the past and they cannot be compared to the greats of this class...
I have been following this beautiful and inspiring sport for over 3 decades...I’ve been inspired by every champion...Kenny Sr, Sheen who was such a brave and inspirational champion, he never said die or whatever happened was never deterred from racing, a really great champion and human being!!!... Spencer on the other hand who I thought in those days was an absolute legend!!! what...when he won the 250cc & 500 championships in one year...he use to get off the 250cc and race the 500cc within 15 minutes...and then Lawson, Gardner, Mamola who had the first on board camera and crash that was documented on screen, that was really exciting times and Ron Haslam with his revolutionary bike and steering (you see I’ve already put 1&1/4, as Haslam was about a ¼ the rider that Sheen was...but I’ve put the great British riders in the modern era here...lol) and then we had the great Rainey who I think would have achieved everything that was before him!!! And he would have really put a dint into Doohan’s career as I don’t think that Mick would have beaten Wayne and would have achieved the records that he did!!! Well Schwantz was an exciting great to watch kamikazi, determined and a go between champ...great never the less for Suzuki!!!....
So now we come onto the modern greats Doohan & Rossi and of course there were lots of other mediocre riders that my memory escapes but what I am trying to point out on this topic is that yes there are riders that make up the numbers and are good in bursts but you can never ever compare them and say that they are great...the greats are the riders that have won world championships and have shown how the rideability of there bikes are portrayed to their limit race in and race out and that is for every year that they have ridden them be it in the 500 or motoGP class...
And this is the same in 2007....sorry to be bashing the Aussie cause again but...Stoner reminds me of the greats of the past....Spencer was a classic just like Stoner is in 2007 and that is why I can honestly and truly say that Stoner will be a champion...and Capirossi and Barros have missed out now and in the past and they cannot be compared to the greats of this class...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Aug 1 2007, 06:57 PM) [snapback]82614[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Please I would just like to make a serious statement if I may!!!... and I hope that the members will take it for what it is...
I have been following this beautiful and inspiring sport for over 3 decades...I’ve been inspired by every champion...Kenny Sr, Sheen who was such a brave and inspirational champion, he never said die or whatever happened was never deterred from racing, a really great champion and human being!!!... Spencer on the other hand who I thought in those days was an absolute legend!!! what...when he won the 250cc & 500 championships in one year...he use to get off the 250cc and race the 500cc within 15 minutes...and then Lawson, Gardner, Mamola who had the first on board camera and crash that was documented on screen, that was really exciting times and Ron Haslam with his revolutionary bike and steering (you see I’ve already put 1&1/4, as Haslam was about a ¼ the rider that Sheen was...but I’ve put the great British riders in the modern era here...lol) and then we had the great Rainey who I think would have achieved everything that was before him!!! And he would have really put a dint into Doohan’s career as I don’t think that Mick would have beaten Wayne and would have achieved the records that he did!!! Well Schwantz was an exciting great to watch kamikazi, determined and a go between champ...great never the less for Suzuki!!!....
So now we come onto the modern greats Doohan & Rossi and of course there were lots of other mediocre riders that my memory escapes but what I am trying to point out on this topic is that yes there are riders that make up the numbers and are good in bursts but you can never ever compare them and say that they are great...the greats are the riders that have won world championships and have shown how the rideability of there bikes are portrayed to their limit race in and race out and that is for every year that they have ridden them be it in the 500 or motoGP class...
And this is the same in 2007....sorry to be bashing the Aussie cause again but...Stoner reminds me of the greats of the past....Spencer was a classic just like Stoner is in 2007 and that is why I can honestly and truly say that Stoner will be a champion...and Capirossi and Barros have missed out now and in the past and they cannot be compared to the greats of this class...
Cheers for clearing that up, was a good read and i mostly agree. Naturally i am not quite as enthusiastic about Stoner as you are but i can get that you see the potential. But honestly, do you think he has the staying power, because thats a question i really can't work out.
Please I would just like to make a serious statement if I may!!!... and I hope that the members will take it for what it is...
I have been following this beautiful and inspiring sport for over 3 decades...I’ve been inspired by every champion...Kenny Sr, Sheen who was such a brave and inspirational champion, he never said die or whatever happened was never deterred from racing, a really great champion and human being!!!... Spencer on the other hand who I thought in those days was an absolute legend!!! what...when he won the 250cc & 500 championships in one year...he use to get off the 250cc and race the 500cc within 15 minutes...and then Lawson, Gardner, Mamola who had the first on board camera and crash that was documented on screen, that was really exciting times and Ron Haslam with his revolutionary bike and steering (you see I’ve already put 1&1/4, as Haslam was about a ¼ the rider that Sheen was...but I’ve put the great British riders in the modern era here...lol) and then we had the great Rainey who I think would have achieved everything that was before him!!! And he would have really put a dint into Doohan’s career as I don’t think that Mick would have beaten Wayne and would have achieved the records that he did!!! Well Schwantz was an exciting great to watch kamikazi, determined and a go between champ...great never the less for Suzuki!!!....
So now we come onto the modern greats Doohan & Rossi and of course there were lots of other mediocre riders that my memory escapes but what I am trying to point out on this topic is that yes there are riders that make up the numbers and are good in bursts but you can never ever compare them and say that they are great...the greats are the riders that have won world championships and have shown how the rideability of there bikes are portrayed to their limit race in and race out and that is for every year that they have ridden them be it in the 500 or motoGP class...
And this is the same in 2007....sorry to be bashing the Aussie cause again but...Stoner reminds me of the greats of the past....Spencer was a classic just like Stoner is in 2007 and that is why I can honestly and truly say that Stoner will be a champion...and Capirossi and Barros have missed out now and in the past and they cannot be compared to the greats of this class...
Cheers for clearing that up, was a good read and i mostly agree. Naturally i am not quite as enthusiastic about Stoner as you are but i can get that you see the potential. But honestly, do you think he has the staying power, because thats a question i really can't work out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mylexicon @ Aug 2 2007, 03:49 AM) [snapback]82612[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
How can you forget the man with more wins than Rainey, Spencer, KRSR & Sheen. Not to mention he is the man whom Valentino Rossi aspired to race like.
His number (34) is retired by the FIM. He racked up 25 wins on a SUZUKI!!!!
Kevin Schwantz.
Anyway, I give Barros the nod in the who is worse battle. Barros is not as good as Capi.
Yes but Mr. Rainey's career was cut short with that unfortunate accident and before that he was really unbeatable mate!!! Kevin could never beat Wayne!!! Wayne was a legend and please if you ask Mick, Kevin, Eddie and all the riders in those days they will tell you the same!!! Wayne was like a Swiss watch he rode that Yamaha to its limits and to perfection!!! He was unbeatable if he woudent have had that accident!!! Multi world champion!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Aug 2 2007, 04:10 AM) [snapback]82616[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Cheers for clearing that up, was a good read and i mostly agree. Naturally i am not quite as enthusiastic about Stoner as you are but i can get that you see the potential. But honestly, do you think he has the staying power, because thats a question i really can't work out.
Well Tom that is a really good question??? Especially that Melandri will join the Ducati in 2008...I don’t know??? as what the rumours are bandied about that they want an Italian as a world champ...it’s hard to tell...but in saying all this if Ducati support Stoner like they are in 2007 then I definitely say Yes for 2008...Stoner is a racer, a tactical racer a racer who wants to go the fastest and break every record before him...what else does Ducati want...but then Melandri is the same...so it should be a really interesting contest and may the best man win!!!
His number (34) is retired by the FIM. He racked up 25 wins on a SUZUKI!!!!
Kevin Schwantz.
Anyway, I give Barros the nod in the who is worse battle. Barros is not as good as Capi.
Yes but Mr. Rainey's career was cut short with that unfortunate accident and before that he was really unbeatable mate!!! Kevin could never beat Wayne!!! Wayne was a legend and please if you ask Mick, Kevin, Eddie and all the riders in those days they will tell you the same!!! Wayne was like a Swiss watch he rode that Yamaha to its limits and to perfection!!! He was unbeatable if he woudent have had that accident!!! Multi world champion!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Aug 2 2007, 04:10 AM) [snapback]82616[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Cheers for clearing that up, was a good read and i mostly agree. Naturally i am not quite as enthusiastic about Stoner as you are but i can get that you see the potential. But honestly, do you think he has the staying power, because thats a question i really can't work out.
Well Tom that is a really good question??? Especially that Melandri will join the Ducati in 2008...I don’t know??? as what the rumours are bandied about that they want an Italian as a world champ...it’s hard to tell...but in saying all this if Ducati support Stoner like they are in 2007 then I definitely say Yes for 2008...Stoner is a racer, a tactical racer a racer who wants to go the fastest and break every record before him...what else does Ducati want...but then Melandri is the same...so it should be a really interesting contest and may the best man win!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Aug 1 2007, 06:07 PM) [snapback]82601[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Its worth mentioning that when Barros got his V5 it was using an experamental electronic engine brake system that rossi did not have. Thats why barros was much smoother on corner entry wile Rossi was having clutch problems. I'm not trying to take anything away fromwe Barros, but i wanted to mention that it wasn't identical machinary
I didn't know that Tom. Either way you've still got to ride the thing and learning a new bike, and winning on it first time out, late season is a remarkable achievement.
After reading these latest posts, I must come to Barros' defense. When he's on it there is really no one that can touch him (late braking etc). But I guess the same can be said for many other riders. But that's an aside really. If he had learned how to get a decent start (and dealt with super pole a bit better) in SBK last year he would have been challenging Bayliss for that title. I can't count the number of races he came from 15th on the grid to finish 5th or 6th sometimes running half a second faster than the leaders at the end.
Its worth mentioning that when Barros got his V5 it was using an experamental electronic engine brake system that rossi did not have. Thats why barros was much smoother on corner entry wile Rossi was having clutch problems. I'm not trying to take anything away fromwe Barros, but i wanted to mention that it wasn't identical machinary
I didn't know that Tom. Either way you've still got to ride the thing and learning a new bike, and winning on it first time out, late season is a remarkable achievement.
After reading these latest posts, I must come to Barros' defense. When he's on it there is really no one that can touch him (late braking etc). But I guess the same can be said for many other riders. But that's an aside really. If he had learned how to get a decent start (and dealt with super pole a bit better) in SBK last year he would have been challenging Bayliss for that title. I can't count the number of races he came from 15th on the grid to finish 5th or 6th sometimes running half a second faster than the leaders at the end.
Not trying to stir the pot but in regard to the original question, has there been threads or members calling Barros and Capi two of the greats of racing and lumping them in with Roberts sr, Rainey, SheenE, ect...? I think your preaching to the choir as most would put them as second or third tier riders historicaly. Both are capable of a great ride but not sustain it over the course of the season. There are Champions I would put as second tier like Jr and Nicky but I really enjoyed everything they brought or bring to racing. And as every thread seems to do, get back to Casey, I would give the lad a few more years, he has had a fantastic year so far but there have been alot of variables this year with the jump to 800s and the tire rules that aren't normally there. I think Honda and Michelins will make huge strides by next year as well as Yamaha, Kawa, and Suzys to a smaller degree which might throw a spanner into the Casey is the greatest attitude. Here's an interesting question, if we get 3 or 4 races in next year and Marco is leading the championship will Ducati throw more support his way or Stoners. I am one who believes there is always a favorite son in the team pecking orders and that could easily come in to play even if Casey does win a championship for Ducati.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(V8GUZZI @ Aug 1 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]82632[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Here's an interesting question, if we get 3 or 4 races in next year and Marco is leading the championship will Ducati throw more support his way or Stoners. I am one who believes there is always a favorite son in the team pecking orders and that could easily come in to play even if Casey does win a championship for Ducati.
I think Melandri on a Ducati will give us a better idea of how good Casey is. Don't forget that Melandri (Barros too) had no clue how to ride the old Yamaha and crashed frequently. It wasn't until Rossi advised him that the Honda was easier to ride that he went there and showed his true talent. I've never heard anyone say the Ducati was easy to ride. So let's see if Melandri has really improved or the Honda just suited him better, just like the Ducati clearly suits Stoner.
Here's an interesting question, if we get 3 or 4 races in next year and Marco is leading the championship will Ducati throw more support his way or Stoners. I am one who believes there is always a favorite son in the team pecking orders and that could easily come in to play even if Casey does win a championship for Ducati.
I think Melandri on a Ducati will give us a better idea of how good Casey is. Don't forget that Melandri (Barros too) had no clue how to ride the old Yamaha and crashed frequently. It wasn't until Rossi advised him that the Honda was easier to ride that he went there and showed his true talent. I've never heard anyone say the Ducati was easy to ride. So let's see if Melandri has really improved or the Honda just suited him better, just like the Ducati clearly suits Stoner.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(V8GUZZI @ Aug 2 2007, 04:38 AM) [snapback]82632[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Not trying to stir the pot but in regard to the original question, has there been threads or members calling Barros and Capi two of the greats of racing and lumping them in with Roberts sr, Rainey, SheenE, ect...? I think your preaching to the choir as most would put them as second or third tier riders historicaly. Both are capable of a great ride but not sustain it over the course of the season. There are Champions I would put as second tier like Jr and Nicky but I really enjoyed everything they brought or bring to racing. And as every thread seems to do, get back to Casey, I would give the lad a few more years, he has had a fantastic year so far but there have been alot of variables this year with the jump to 800s and the tire rules that aren't normally there. I think Honda and Michelins will make huge strides by next year as well as Yamaha, Kawa, and Suzys to a smaller degree which might throw a spanner into the Casey is the greatest attitude. Here's an interesting question, if we get 3 or 4 races in next year and Marco is leading the championship will Ducati throw more support his way or Stoners. I am one who believes there is always a favorite son in the team pecking orders and that could easily come in to play even if Casey does win a championship for Ducati.
V8GUZZI..btw; I owned a 1980 Moto Guzzi LeMans CX 1000...great bike!!! and so beautiful..fair statements...well its only natural if Melandri is leading the world championship that Ducati will make him the numero uno rider...but I don’t think the 2008 season at Ducati will start that way...they know what Marco can do and marco is being tested and will have a great challenge when he comes to Ducati...you he hasn’t been the perfect rider by any means with any of his previous rides in this class so I think that Livio is smart enough to know where and what he can do with his riders be it Marco Loris or Casey!!! Livio is a very professional man, diplomatic but demands the best!!!...and if you don’t deliver...well he will give you 1,2,3,4,5,6,....etc chances but there is a limit and Livio will definitely treat you within that respect, just like he’s done with Loris in 2007!!!..I think Ducati are a great team with emotion, with feeling and with the right attitude towards their riders...just like Casey said...”I’m proud to be a part of the Ducati family” And the family is the key HERE!!!...you know the casa nostra!!!...mafia...lol
And as far as Capirossi & Barros are concerned well there some members who think that they should be included in that league...and this is my argument V8Guzzi...there’s just no comparison and energy to even go there!!!
Not trying to stir the pot but in regard to the original question, has there been threads or members calling Barros and Capi two of the greats of racing and lumping them in with Roberts sr, Rainey, SheenE, ect...? I think your preaching to the choir as most would put them as second or third tier riders historicaly. Both are capable of a great ride but not sustain it over the course of the season. There are Champions I would put as second tier like Jr and Nicky but I really enjoyed everything they brought or bring to racing. And as every thread seems to do, get back to Casey, I would give the lad a few more years, he has had a fantastic year so far but there have been alot of variables this year with the jump to 800s and the tire rules that aren't normally there. I think Honda and Michelins will make huge strides by next year as well as Yamaha, Kawa, and Suzys to a smaller degree which might throw a spanner into the Casey is the greatest attitude. Here's an interesting question, if we get 3 or 4 races in next year and Marco is leading the championship will Ducati throw more support his way or Stoners. I am one who believes there is always a favorite son in the team pecking orders and that could easily come in to play even if Casey does win a championship for Ducati.
V8GUZZI..btw; I owned a 1980 Moto Guzzi LeMans CX 1000...great bike!!! and so beautiful..fair statements...well its only natural if Melandri is leading the world championship that Ducati will make him the numero uno rider...but I don’t think the 2008 season at Ducati will start that way...they know what Marco can do and marco is being tested and will have a great challenge when he comes to Ducati...you he hasn’t been the perfect rider by any means with any of his previous rides in this class so I think that Livio is smart enough to know where and what he can do with his riders be it Marco Loris or Casey!!! Livio is a very professional man, diplomatic but demands the best!!!...and if you don’t deliver...well he will give you 1,2,3,4,5,6,....etc chances but there is a limit and Livio will definitely treat you within that respect, just like he’s done with Loris in 2007!!!..I think Ducati are a great team with emotion, with feeling and with the right attitude towards their riders...just like Casey said...”I’m proud to be a part of the Ducati family” And the family is the key HERE!!!...you know the casa nostra!!!...mafia...lol
And as far as Capirossi & Barros are concerned well there some members who think that they should be included in that league...and this is my argument V8Guzzi...there’s just no comparison and energy to even go there!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Aug 1 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]82618[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Yes but Mr. Rainey's career was cut short with that unfortunate accident and before that he was really unbeatable mate!!! Kevin could never beat Wayne!!! Wayne was a legend and please if you ask Mick, Kevin, Eddie and all the riders in those days they will tell you the same!!! Wayne was like a Swiss watch he rode that Yamaha to its limits and to perfection!!! He was unbeatable if he woudent have had that accident!!! Multi world champion!!!
Two of my all time favorite riders are Schwantz and Rainey. I think them both equal. But I think you need to check your facts. In fact Schwantz beat Rainey several times. In fact, Rainey won the title when he had lesser wins than Schwantz in a season. In fact, the Yamaha was clearly a better package than the Suzuki, you may recall Yamaha and Honda traded championships regularly only to be interrupted by a Suzuki (what does that tell you about the parity of the machines?) By the way, Rainy was a "multi" world champion.
So to lend a tangent from your question on this thread, which asks whose record, is "worse" (I would have asked whose record is "better" to enable a more positive discussion) between Barros and Capirossi. In the case of Schwantz and Rainey, well if you consider the machine/package to be part of the equation, then I don't see how you could overlook the Suzuki of Schwantz as inferior to the Yamaha of Rainy, yet Schwantz was the most consistent race winner during their era (that's a fact look it up).
As far as your question about Barros and Capirossi. Well I'd say Capirossi is the overall better rider. And I think had his fortunes been better in 06; he would have been a title contender in the class.
Yes but Mr. Rainey's career was cut short with that unfortunate accident and before that he was really unbeatable mate!!! Kevin could never beat Wayne!!! Wayne was a legend and please if you ask Mick, Kevin, Eddie and all the riders in those days they will tell you the same!!! Wayne was like a Swiss watch he rode that Yamaha to its limits and to perfection!!! He was unbeatable if he woudent have had that accident!!! Multi world champion!!!
Two of my all time favorite riders are Schwantz and Rainey. I think them both equal. But I think you need to check your facts. In fact Schwantz beat Rainey several times. In fact, Rainey won the title when he had lesser wins than Schwantz in a season. In fact, the Yamaha was clearly a better package than the Suzuki, you may recall Yamaha and Honda traded championships regularly only to be interrupted by a Suzuki (what does that tell you about the parity of the machines?) By the way, Rainy was a "multi" world champion.
So to lend a tangent from your question on this thread, which asks whose record, is "worse" (I would have asked whose record is "better" to enable a more positive discussion) between Barros and Capirossi. In the case of Schwantz and Rainey, well if you consider the machine/package to be part of the equation, then I don't see how you could overlook the Suzuki of Schwantz as inferior to the Yamaha of Rainy, yet Schwantz was the most consistent race winner during their era (that's a fact look it up).
As far as your question about Barros and Capirossi. Well I'd say Capirossi is the overall better rider. And I think had his fortunes been better in 06; he would have been a title contender in the class.
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CSCVAW it makes me wonder, if Stoner was not doing so well this season, whether you'd still be such a cocky little ct.
You're only in the position to belittle other riders because Casey is doing so well this season, but if he were to be languishing in a lower position then I'm sure you'd have been keeping your fking mouth shut.
You're only in the position to belittle other riders because Casey is doing so well this season, but if he were to be languishing in a lower position then I'm sure you'd have been keeping your fking mouth shut.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Aug 17 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]85152[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
CSCVAW it makes me wonder, if Stoner was not doing so well this season, whether you'd still be such a cocky little ct.
You're only in the position to belittle other riders because Casey is doing so well this season, but if he were to be languishing in a lower position then I'm sure you'd have been keeping your fking mouth shut.
Settle pettle!! Why do you stress about what one person says?
CSCVAW it makes me wonder, if Stoner was not doing so well this season, whether you'd still be such a cocky little ct.
You're only in the position to belittle other riders because Casey is doing so well this season, but if he were to be languishing in a lower position then I'm sure you'd have been keeping your fking mouth shut.
Settle pettle!! Why do you stress about what one person says?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Desmosedici65 @ Aug 17 2007, 07:03 PM) [snapback]85152[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
CSCVAW it makes me wonder, if Stoner was not doing so well this season, whether you'd still be such a cocky little ct.
You're only in the position to belittle other riders because Casey is doing so well this season, but if he were to be languishing in a lower position then I'm sure you'd have been keeping your fking mouth shut.
Well he is Desmosedici65... So ‘shut the f..ck up
...only joking, mate...
Not at all, I would give credit where its due irrespective of rider, nation or what ever...but when you’re on a good thing I would of thought “You have to Stick to It”!!!...and what better then a fellow countrymen that I’m sure if a yank was as good as Casey and would be doing (or killing it) the championship as well as Casey is...I’m sure your mouth and fingers would be doing the talking too on this forum!!!...cheers mate!!!
Sorry this is even worst...fellow Brit...lol
CSCVAW it makes me wonder, if Stoner was not doing so well this season, whether you'd still be such a cocky little ct.
You're only in the position to belittle other riders because Casey is doing so well this season, but if he were to be languishing in a lower position then I'm sure you'd have been keeping your fking mouth shut.
Well he is Desmosedici65... So ‘shut the f..ck up
Not at all, I would give credit where its due irrespective of rider, nation or what ever...but when you’re on a good thing I would of thought “You have to Stick to It”!!!...and what better then a fellow countrymen that I’m sure if a yank was as good as Casey and would be doing (or killing it) the championship as well as Casey is...I’m sure your mouth and fingers would be doing the talking too on this forum!!!...cheers mate!!!
Sorry this is even worst...fellow Brit...lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Son of Doohan @ Aug 17 2007, 02:00 PM) [snapback]85197[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Checa's record speaks for itself! He's the worst!!
Oi!
He's not the worst at all, he's on the LCR, which Stoner did ..... on last year. He's getting old. I'm the first to admit he's not going to get a ride next year, but I don't get how you can call anyone in Moto GP 'the worst", they're the best riders in the world and Checa's been there for years.
Checa's record speaks for itself! He's the worst!!
Oi!
He's not the worst at all, he's on the LCR, which Stoner did ..... on last year. He's getting old. I'm the first to admit he's not going to get a ride next year, but I don't get how you can call anyone in Moto GP 'the worst", they're the best riders in the world and Checa's been there for years.
