I would be interested in seeing how James "Bubba" Stewart would perform in road racing, specifically MotoGP. There are a couple of former dirt bikers turned road racers who have found success (Stoner, Hayden). Obviously he would need experience on the road and there is no guarantee he'd be a dominant road racer as he is in dirt. But given the dominance he exhibits dirt biking, I'm really intrigued and would like to see him on the road someday in the future. Though, I'm not even sure road racing has even crossed his mind as an option.
I dont think Bubba would ever make it to moto gp just like rossi would never make it in super cross
thr style of riding and machine is just way too different. Stoner and Hayden road dirt track which is way differnt than moto x. dirt track preps you for road racing because of the braking and sliding and other stuff i dont know much about. the farthest id see stewart going in road racing would be a few wild cards in come lower ama division like superstock or formula xtreme. It would be cool to see though. Just like i cant see rossi hitting triples and riding over whoops like bubba does. not even nicky is comftrable hitting those big ... jumps he said it after the x games. ill watch moto x every now and then but roadracing is what gets my blood flowing
thr style of riding and machine is just way too different. Stoner and Hayden road dirt track which is way differnt than moto x. dirt track preps you for road racing because of the braking and sliding and other stuff i dont know much about. the farthest id see stewart going in road racing would be a few wild cards in come lower ama division like superstock or formula xtreme. It would be cool to see though. Just like i cant see rossi hitting triples and riding over whoops like bubba does. not even nicky is comftrable hitting those big ... jumps he said it after the x games. ill watch moto x every now and then but roadracing is what gets my blood flowing
Jean-Michel Bayle had a crack at road racing, he won a few AMA National ( motorcross) Championships. Stewart, well he's still young but i cant see it happening....
Its not a silly question, but he would have to start out at a lower level than MotoGP.... we'll have to see how Nicky gets on with the Duke, it looks the only bike suitable on the grid that requires a more ragged style of riding.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Oct 24 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
classic!
wonder how well he would have done?
classic!
wonder how well he would have done?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (eltoro @ Oct 23 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would be interested in seeing how James "Bubba" Stewart would perform in road racing, specifically MotoGP. There are a couple of former dirt bikers turned road racers who have found success (Stoner, Hayden). Obviously he would need experience on the road and there is no guarantee he'd be a dominant road racer as he is in dirt. But given the dominance he exhibits dirt biking, I'm really intrigued and would like to see him on the road someday in the future. Though, I'm not even sure road racing has even crossed his mind as an option.
Motocross and the smooth fast dirttrack that Hayden & Spencer did, bear little relationship with each other. A clay mile dirt oval is like pavement, the bikes actually lay down a visible wide black streak of rubber on the clay surface. Corner entry speeds on a mile are upwards of 120 mph, three or more bikes often backing it in together. It's why people like Hayden, Stoner, et al..., don't mind their bike loose, in fact they're nervous when the bike isn't loose, 'cause it's not as predictable or throttle controllable. Bubba no doubt has some good skills, but they are not the primer for high speed work that Hayden and Spencer had.
Motocross and the smooth fast dirttrack that Hayden & Spencer did, bear little relationship with each other. A clay mile dirt oval is like pavement, the bikes actually lay down a visible wide black streak of rubber on the clay surface. Corner entry speeds on a mile are upwards of 120 mph, three or more bikes often backing it in together. It's why people like Hayden, Stoner, et al..., don't mind their bike loose, in fact they're nervous when the bike isn't loose, 'cause it's not as predictable or throttle controllable. Bubba no doubt has some good skills, but they are not the primer for high speed work that Hayden and Spencer had.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Oct 24 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
That's the first thing I thought of when I read the thread title.
That's the first thing I thought of when I read the thread title.
apparently he is interested in going to NASCAR after he is done with his 2 wheel career. why, i have no idea.
If thewy were running 500s or 990s without TC that throttle control would come in handy altough i think Mr Hayden would have kicked more butt had he joined when they were still using 500's?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mastodon @ Oct 24 2008, 05:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>apparently he is interested in going to NASCAR after he is done with his 2 wheel career. why, i have no idea.
Because it's cool, man. McGrath tried unsuccessfully, RC is giving it a go and I can't see him succeeding. It's what all the cool kids of MX do.
Because it's cool, man. McGrath tried unsuccessfully, RC is giving it a go and I can't see him succeeding. It's what all the cool kids of MX do.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Helix @ Oct 24 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's the first thing I thought of when I read the thread title.
Me too. This is, I believe, the extent of Jimmy Stewart's riding experience...
Me too. This is, I believe, the extent of Jimmy Stewart's riding experience...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kngadrok @ Oct 23 2008, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's a foolish, ridiculous question!
Haha. Damn!
I think what the guy is ‘trying’ to say (or ask) is since Bubba is so extremely talented, could he possibly make a run at road racing? The connection he is trying to stretch is since it is both "two-wheel' racing. But yeah, I think it’s just not comparable. I mean, road racing is very unique and is a bit of a one-way valve. Its like Rossi and Pastrana can get in a Rally car and smoke a bunch of noobs, but those regular Rally drivers can’t do a double-back flip like Travis or lap a MotoGP bike like Rossi. Hell Rossi couldn't back flip nor Travis ride the hell out of a GP bike for that matter. It’s just too unique of a discipline.
But I do think if Budda started training on a road motocycle, day in day out with the help of a coach like say Schwantz, he might be able to pick up the skill. Keep in mind, Troy Bayliss didn't start road racing until his 20s (I think). Bubba is all nails.
It could happen, but it won't!
Haha. Damn!
I think what the guy is ‘trying’ to say (or ask) is since Bubba is so extremely talented, could he possibly make a run at road racing? The connection he is trying to stretch is since it is both "two-wheel' racing. But yeah, I think it’s just not comparable. I mean, road racing is very unique and is a bit of a one-way valve. Its like Rossi and Pastrana can get in a Rally car and smoke a bunch of noobs, but those regular Rally drivers can’t do a double-back flip like Travis or lap a MotoGP bike like Rossi. Hell Rossi couldn't back flip nor Travis ride the hell out of a GP bike for that matter. It’s just too unique of a discipline.
But I do think if Budda started training on a road motocycle, day in day out with the help of a coach like say Schwantz, he might be able to pick up the skill. Keep in mind, Troy Bayliss didn't start road racing until his 20s (I think). Bubba is all nails.
It could happen, but it won't!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Oct 24 2008, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Because it's cool, man. McGrath tried unsuccessfully, RC is giving it a go and I can't see him succeeding. It's what all the cool kids of MX do.
Haha, you're an ....
You forgot Jeff Ward and Ricky Johnson on your list.
Anyway, I do think Budda could do it. Look at Jeff Ward, he is a SX champ turned Supermoto champ! Ah, very similar to roadracing. And you of all people should have some appreciation for supermoto champs who are pretty handy with a road racer,eh. Do you think Jeff might be pretty hand with a roadracer if he tried? I'd say it can be done, but Bubba is at the height of his SX/MX career. He just made the 2007 SX gift champ Chad Reed look silly at the US Open in Vegas. No way in hell he is even thinking about road racing. He's going after Ricky's records.
Haha, you're an ....
You forgot Jeff Ward and Ricky Johnson on your list.
Anyway, I do think Budda could do it. Look at Jeff Ward, he is a SX champ turned Supermoto champ! Ah, very similar to roadracing. And you of all people should have some appreciation for supermoto champs who are pretty handy with a road racer,eh. Do you think Jeff might be pretty hand with a roadracer if he tried? I'd say it can be done, but Bubba is at the height of his SX/MX career. He just made the 2007 SX gift champ Chad Reed look silly at the US Open in Vegas. No way in hell he is even thinking about road racing. He's going after Ricky's records.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Oct 24 2008, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Haha. Damn!
I think what the guy is ‘trying’ to say (or ask) is since Bubba is so extremely talented, could he possibly make a run at road racing? The connection he is trying to stretch is since it is both "two-wheel' racing. But yeah, I think it’s just not comparable. I mean, road racing is very unique and is a bit of a one-way valve. Its like Rossi and Pastrana can get in a Rally car and smoke a bunch of noobs, but those regular Rally drivers can’t do a double-back flip like Travis or lap a MotoGP bike like Rossi. Hell Rossi couldn't back flip nor Travis ride the hell out of a GP bike for that matter. It’s just too unique of a discipline.
But I do think if Budda started training on a road motocycle, day in day out with the help of a coach like say Schwantz, he might be able to pick up the skill. Keep in mind, Troy Bayliss didn't start road racing until his 20s (I think). Bubba is all nails.
It could happen, but it won't!
Thanks, you definitely framed my thoughts better than I did.
I didn't mean to write it in a presumptuous sort of way, which seems the way that people here took it. I was just wondering to what degree his talent could translate into road racing.
I think what the guy is ‘trying’ to say (or ask) is since Bubba is so extremely talented, could he possibly make a run at road racing? The connection he is trying to stretch is since it is both "two-wheel' racing. But yeah, I think it’s just not comparable. I mean, road racing is very unique and is a bit of a one-way valve. Its like Rossi and Pastrana can get in a Rally car and smoke a bunch of noobs, but those regular Rally drivers can’t do a double-back flip like Travis or lap a MotoGP bike like Rossi. Hell Rossi couldn't back flip nor Travis ride the hell out of a GP bike for that matter. It’s just too unique of a discipline.
But I do think if Budda started training on a road motocycle, day in day out with the help of a coach like say Schwantz, he might be able to pick up the skill. Keep in mind, Troy Bayliss didn't start road racing until his 20s (I think). Bubba is all nails.
It could happen, but it won't!
Thanks, you definitely framed my thoughts better than I did.
Anybody remember what happened when JS moved from the 125's to the 250's? Lots, and I mean LOTS of crashes. Probability of the same thing happening if he had a bit more power available on a pavement pounder. Edited to add that the only reason he could catch Rickys records is because he doesn't have to race Ricky.
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There are a few guys who transitioned from MX to road.
Mladin is the only one I can think about off the top of my head but I know there are a few more.
Mladin is the only one I can think about off the top of my head but I know there are a few more.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ingjr @ Oct 24 2008, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anybody remember what happened when JS moved from the 125's to the 250's? Lots, and I mean LOTS of crashes. Probability of the same thing happening if he had a bit more power available on a pavement pounder. Edited to add that the only reason he could catch Rickys records is because he doesn't have to race Ricky.
The only reason Ricky had those records is because he didn't have to race Stewart
The only reason Ricky had those records is because he didn't have to race Stewart
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Oct 25 2008, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He just made the 2007 SX gift champ Chad Reed look silly at the US Open in Vegas. No way in hell he is even thinking about road racing. He's going after Ricky's records.
I wouldn't have called him a gift champion.
Why do you say that he is?
I wouldn't have called him a gift champion.
Why do you say that he is?
