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WCM

Joined Jun 2005
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Probably one for Krop......as it stands now ,could Peter Cliffords WCM team legally race in 2012 with their Yamaha based bike.I was thinking that WCM had foresight in ignorance? ( it would be nice to get back to the `brass tacks` of the forum).
 
My understanding is that the bike would be legal. Does anyone know if the team is still operating on any level?
 
The WCM would be legal for 2012. And it was legal for 2003. But the FIM President was in the pocket of the Flamminis and so he made the call to have the bike banned. All the rest was nitpicking over definitions of the word prototype.



WCM is completely disbanded and dispersed around the paddock. Peter Clifford runs the Red Bull Rookies.
 
The WCM would be legal for 2012. And it was legal for 2003. But the FIM President was in the pocket of the Flamminis and so he made the call to have the bike banned. All the rest was nitpicking over definitions of the word prototype.



WCM is completely disbanded and dispersed around the paddock. Peter Clifford runs the Red Bull Rookies.

If true that is outragous. You would know more on the rules than me but i thought it was ilegal due to it using the crank/ cases ect from a production bike (R1). I thought all these parts had to be prototype for it to comply with the motogp rules ?
 
If true that is outragous. You would know more on the rules than me but i thought it was ilegal due to it using the crank/ cases ect from a production bike (R1). I thought all these parts had to be prototype for it to comply with the motogp rules ?



Didn't WCM attempt to cast their own cases only to have that refused because they were too close to the R1 design they were based on?
 
Didn't WCM attempt to cast their own cases only to have that refused because they were too close to the R1 design they were based on?



Exactly. It descended into a legalistic argument about what constitutes a "prototype". The fact that the only thing that remained of the original R1 engine was the holes for the frame mounting bolts was neither here nor there. I have spoken to Peter Clifford and several of the protagonists several times over the years, and the story is both ugly and outrageous. I will not reveal all of the details, but the project was basically torpedoed.
 
Thank you......that must have left a sour taste in Peter Cliffords mouth then.Pretty disgusting treatment from the powers that be.
 

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