Unfinished business?

What is this? You would've never seen Schwantz & Rainey, Rossi & Biaggi, Rossi & Gibernau or Pedrosa & Lorenzo apologising to each other while in the middle of a nail biting title battle, I dislike Casey even more now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr-brightside @ Aug 15 2008, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Me thinks he doesnt want to become the next Biaggi or Gibernau in a Rossi war!

Its entertaining as hell, even if Rossi completely obliterated them. Casey's trying to act like the squeeky clean world champ even though he isn't exactly well liked by many MotoGP fans.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr-brightside @ Aug 14 2008, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>4429:aug1408_...to_rossi.htm]

Thought this was all over with, but obviously serious enough to warrant serious makings up!
More of the same close racing soon please, with either rider coming out on top.
Casey rattled or waiting......


You can't bet the plebeian king Juan Carlos is behind this scrotum-shriveling press release. Remember when he made Pedrosa and Lorenzo shake hands?

What a filthy peace-monger

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr-brightside @ Aug 15 2008, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its a shame. I do rate him as a rider, even if he suffers from lack of finesse on the throttle hand ( cheers for cleaning that up TC). But he is now in danger of looking a bit limp and Rossi stamping all over him. Mind you, this is just the press release for the general public, who knows what was said in private....

Good on him. Aside from apologiseing to Rossi, he has accepted that he had a dummy spit and that he over reacted. Probably knows he looked like a sook. Full credit to him.
He's had a spit at the end of the race, and when he has cooled down has realised he lost out on a fierce battle. Rossi did what he had to win on a slower bike. Stoner is smart engough to give credit to Rossi for that, even though Stoner lost out.
Everyone has had a spit at some time, and he has accepted that he over reacted.
Stoner will be focused on payback on the track, and will expect some respect when the result goes the other way.
Think Brno will be closer than people expect.
Expect a good fight

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haga @ Aug 15 2008, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What is this? You would've never seen Schwantz & Rainey, Rossi & Biaggi, Rossi & Gibernau or Pedrosa & Lorenzo apologising to each other while in the middle of a nail biting title battle, I dislike Casey even more now.
I think there is a strong possibility this was on the instructions of ducati. It is fairly untenable for them as an italian company to have their lead rider detested by rossi fans (ie basically pretty well all italian motorbike fans) even if he wins the world championship. I am not sure there is anything they or stoner can do, as whilst stoner's prickly personality doesn't help being competitive with valentino seems to be enough provocation for some fans.
EDIT
This was perhaps poorly phrased;as I have said many times I think it is entirely reasonable to be a rossi fan, he gives a lot back. My point is that stoner can't win whatever he does.

he should have waited and apologized after the season, NOT DURING

Most of you (me included) expressed some aversion to his outburst. It was a silly thing to do.

As a Casey fan I agreed that Vale kicked his arse at Laguna and Casey got a racing as opposed to riding lesson. He should have sucked it up and said nothing but he’s competitive and felt he should have won.

He has come good and apologised.

I think he knows now that winning is crossing the line first and not just riding the fastest and there is more than one way to win.

Give him some credit for Christ sake, the kid is young and has a hell of a lot to learn. He’s done the right thing and instead of commending this like a decent (objective) person should you are booting the .... out of him for the content and timing of the apology.

He did exactly what most of you expected he should do.

The only way Casey is going to make people happy is by announcing the following

“like pretty much the rest of the motogp field I am now content to come second to Valentino all the time, I promise NOT to race again”

or

“I have decided to contest the remaining races on a Honda CT 110”

Surely in the event of a few exchanged words – all about riding and the “respect” of other riders, nothing deeply personal, your rider winning and no one getting injured or killed a simple apology should suffice. You need to regather your perspective on what is unforgivable.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr-brightside @ Aug 15 2008, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its a shame. I do rate him as a rider, even if he suffers from lack of finesse on the throttle hand ( cheers for cleaning that up TC). But he is now in danger of looking a bit limp and Rossi stamping all over him. Mind you, this is just the press release for the general public, who knows what was said in private....
Can you please explain how he has a lack of throttle control? Even with the TC COMPLETELY turned off, he was fast during testing on the GP7. He often does qualifying laps without TC too!

Watch this video of Stoner lapping the GP7 without TC(at 5:25) If you still think he has poor throttle control, then you are in denial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4ffRj8eD_Y...feature=related

I don't know why people are so reluctant to give Casey credit. Everyone seems to believe that no-one should be within 1 second of Valentino without having some artificial advantage.

Let's just face the facts; Casey has great throttle control. You don't dominate the Australian national dirt track racing scene by "suffering from a lack of finesse on the throttle hand".

See the Barros interview...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Aug 15 2008, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Most of you (me included) expressed some aversion to his outburst. It was a silly thing to do.

As a Casey fan I agreed that Vale kicked his arse at Laguna and Casey got a racing as opposed to riding lesson. He should have sucked it up and said nothing but he’s competitive and felt he should have won.

He has come good and apologised.

I think he knows now that winning is crossing the line first and not just riding the fastest and there is more than one way to win.

Give him some credit for Christ sake, the kid is young and has a hell of a lot to learn. He’s done the right thing and instead of commending this like a decent (objective) person should you are booting the .... out of him for the content and timing of the apology.

He did exactly what most of you expected he should do.

The only way Casey is going to make people happy is by announcing the following

“like pretty much the rest of the motogp field I am now content to come second to Valentino all the time, I promise NOT to race again”

or

“I have decided to contest the remaining races on a Honda CT 110”

Surely in the event of a few exchanged words – all about riding and the “respect” of other riders, nothing deeply personal, your rider winning and no one getting injured or killed a simple apology should suffice. You need to regather your perspective on what is unforgivable.


As far as I'm concerned, Casey has put his hands up, and admitted it was a pretty dumb thing to say. Respect to him for that, lets see some good hard racing!

Pete

good job

didn't expect it, but glad to see it. takes a lot of guts to apologize. and i don't think it was forced either. i watched the interview on motogp.com and while he didn't give an official "apology", his attitude had definitely changed. looks like he did some thinking over the break. he said something along the lines of he just wished he had stayed on the bike longer, and given a battle to the end.

i'd rather see'm hate each other

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Aug 15 2008, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i'd rather see'm hate each other
Yes...we know you like a good dose of feud with your ham.
Linky not working for me though...

It had to happen, this isn't the wild west, ride like your hair is on fire and tell anyone who questions it to get ...... days of Schwantz and Doohan. This is the PC era. You can't behave that way anymore. As much as MotoGP is sport, it is equal parts marketing/advertising. Ducati, Marlboro, Alpinestars, Oakley etc. can't have their rider labeled as a cry baby or sore loser, not a good look for a company. And it makes Stoner less desirable to future personal sponsors, so he bit the bullet and did what he needed to do, apologize.

What I find entertaining in the whole bit is how some are criticizing him for it. He really can't do any right in some eyes. The blind devotion in some is quite comical.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Aug 15 2008, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It had to happen, this isn't the wild west, ride like your hair is on fire and tell anyone who questions it to get ...... days of Schwantz and Doohan. This is the PC era. You can't behave that way anymore. As much as MotoGP is sport, it is equal parts marketing/advertising. Ducati, Marlboro, Alpinestars, Oakley etc. can't have their rider labeled as a cry baby or sore loser, not a good look for a company. And it makes Stoner less desirable to future personal sponsors, so he bit the bullet and did what he needed to do, apologize.

What I find entertaining in the whole bit is how some are criticizing him for it. He really can't do any right in some eyes. The blind devotion in some is quite comical.
I totally agree with you!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Aug 15 2008, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Most of you (me included) expressed some aversion to his outburst. It was a silly thing to do.

As a Casey fan I agreed that Vale kicked his arse at Laguna and Casey got a racing as opposed to riding lesson. He should have sucked it up and said nothing but he’s competitive and felt he should have won.

He has come good and apologised.

I think he knows now that winning is crossing the line first and not just riding the fastest and there is more than one way to win.

Give him some credit for Christ sake, the kid is young and has a hell of a lot to learn. He’s done the right thing and instead of commending this like a decent (objective) person should you are booting the .... out of him for the content and timing of the apology.

He did exactly what most of you expected he should do.

The only way Casey is going to make people happy is by announcing the following

“like pretty much the rest of the motogp field I am now content to come second to Valentino all the time, I promise NOT to race again”

or

“I have decided to contest the remaining races on a Honda CT 110”

Surely in the event of a few exchanged words – all about riding and the “respect” of other riders, nothing deeply personal, your rider winning and no one getting injured or killed a simple apology should suffice. You need to regather your perspective on what is unforgivable.
agreed. Like he is supposed to even be kissing Vale's .... This is racing folks and the emotions run high. Look for the time when Vale lost to Gibernau and some of the end results of those battles. Look at Vale flippin the bird to Biaggi. IT happens and we all, well most of us have emotions.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Aug 15 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As far as I'm concerned, Casey has put his hands up, and admitted it was a pretty dumb thing to say. Respect to him for that, lets see some good hard racing!

Pete
+1 takes a real man to admit he's wrong, casey has just gone back up in my respect levels now.