TT Races Bad News

R.I.P

I understand why some people would want this race banning. It is dangerous but everyone who takes part in this race knows that they are messing with death before they even get going on the track. And that is just the risk people like to take. Me myself love roadracing more then circuit racing and when I get a bike and can afford I'll do the TT races.

People die in F1 but will we ever see that get banned? No just cause it's a big sport and on a circuit. But roads make a difference? It's still like a circuit where you have a certain route to follow. It's not like you go tackle any corner you want unless your plain stupid.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vale4607 @ Jun 12 2007, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who is jumping on the ban all motorsport bandwagon? It would lead to a blanket ban because one event was stopped? Bit of a leap there.
there are a lot of polititions and "greenies" who would love to see motorbikes and motorbike racing banned, once one worldclass event like this has been banned then the precedent has been set, mark my words, dont give them that inch because they will take the mile.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 13 2007, 04:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>there are a lot of polititions and "greenies" who would love to see motorbikes and motorbike racing banned, once one worldclass event like this has been banned then the precedent has been set, mark my words, dont give them that inch because they will take the mile.

Exactly. Earlier in the thread someone said, "no event is worth somebody's life." Any race could see someone die. If "no event is worth someone's life," then no races should ever take place.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 13 2007, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>there are a lot of polititions and "greenies" who would love to see motorbikes and motorbike racing banned, once one worldclass event like this has been banned then the precedent has been set, mark my words, dont give them that inch because they will take the mile.

I'm not taking a stand regarding the TT Race however I don't know if I agree.
As long as they have one or two events they can point at, it is very easy for them to generalize all motorbike sports. It might as a biger risk to continue with the event. When the "greenies" finally get their will, hugely based on all the fatal accidents at Isle of Man the risk is that they ban all motorbike racing. We've seen that approach here, with the total ban of smoking where they serve alcohol indoor with a license, no exceptions what so ever, and other new laws has been suggested with the same total and extreeme measurements.

Thing is the TT is more of a freak show that a world class event, it's nothing more than a parochial road race, albeit with a hugely rich history so I can't see how banning the TT might possibly lead to a banning of all motorcycle racing. That's the most ludicrous statement I've ever come accross ever on this forum. I'll make a statement, it will be banned eventually, perhaps in the next 25 years. How many more guys will get wiped out until then?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Jun 18 2007, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thing is the TT is more of a freak show that a world class event, it's nothing more than a parochial road race, albeit with a hugely rich history so I can't see how banning the TT might possibly lead to a banning of all motorcycle racing. That's the most ludicrous statement I've ever come accross ever on this forum. I'll make a statement, it will be banned eventually, perhaps in the next 25 years. How many more guys will get wiped out until then?


just out of curiosity whats the total death toll of the TT

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (raven46 @ Jun 18 2007, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>just out of curiosity whats the total death toll of the TT


i googled it but could'nt get into the first site coz it was blocked

said on the preview "over the years the death toll has risen to 222"

thats pretty amazimg

dont know how old that statement is so that number could be higher...

All motorsport is dangerous ,for spectators to.
6 killed at drag race,

link

over 18s, graphic'ish

How many folks, men women and kids, are killed everyday on the roads?

These guys are doing what they love, the spectators love it, and the Island thrives off of it. Surely it is up to those involved?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Jun 19 2007, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How many folks, men women and kids, are killed everyday on the roads?

These guys are doing what they love, the spectators love it, and the Island thrives off of it. Surely it is up to those involved?

Yeah, there is nothing else to it if you ask me!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Jun 19 2007, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How many folks, men women and kids, are killed everyday on the roads?

These guys are doing what they love, the spectators love it, and the Island thrives off of it. Surely it is up to those involved?
yup i agree dave, every year when the tt is on we get the ban it brigade. i dont think the tt as bad as people think,when you consider how many competitors and how many race miles are covered over the event.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Jun 20 2007, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How many folks, men women and kids, are killed everyday on the roads?

These guys are doing what they love, the spectators love it, and the Island thrives off of it. Surely it is up to those involved?

Personally I agree with that Burky the problem is that others don't.
As I said, I'm not taking sides in the discussion here, but the problem is not what it should be like, but to what degree the event create an impression of motorbike racing in general. The Isle of Man races are allways up in the media, even here in Norway, and with green/red anti motorsport politicians that need to be heard they easily want to go to extreems to be heard even better. It's politics and it stinks, but maybe, just maybe the sport in general would be better off without the Isle of Man races.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jun 11 2007, 05:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Very sad news to hear, and predictably many of you are saying the TT should be banned. The TT is a completely individual, beautiful and hugely thrilling event for spectators and competitors. Unfortunately the most significant factor that makes the races so brilliant is danger. The very same danger that brings sad news like this and that makes the tt hard to take, but ultimately that is the catch with motorsport.

Many people complain about grand prix racing not being as glorious as it was in the past because the bikes are too easy to ride, the circuits are boring, the riders arn't real heros anymore and the entire system is run by money. This is not the case at all with the TT, it has stuck to its roots throughout. The health and safety PC world has moved on but the TT hasn't, and due to the nature of the track it basically can't.

I don't think it's too smart for people to say that the tt should be banned because it is too dangerous and such because all the principles used for that argument can be applied to all motorsports, the only difference being the standard at which you apply these principles. And who are you to force your standards onto other people? Imagine how you would feel if a lot of protesters and politicians decided that motogp, or even all motorsports were too dangerous, and banned it all. I for one would be pretty pissed off about that. I think it is best to leave the judgement to those who choose to compete in or spectate at the TT. If you feel it is too dangerous, stay away and you will remain safe. I think the best action that can be taken is to make people more aware of the risks and educate spectators more about what they are doing.

I am confident that the TT wont be banned anytime soon anyway, because the TT has ben around longer than those with the power to stop it (unless they govern the country from beyond the grave), and the politicians are probably mostly at ease with the event, and many probably enjoy it and embrace it year in year out. On top of that the entry lists are all over subscribed and thousands of people still flock to the island to appreciate the show. I know i will be going back in the future.

My thoughts go out to the families of those involved in the incidents last week.
excellent! if we ban this because of safety concerns we might aswell ban driving altogether. it's dangerous. so is flying, mountain climbing, skiing, driving down the freeway..... get the point

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Jun 22 2007, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>excellent! if we ban this because of safety concerns we might aswell ban driving altogether. it's dangerous. so is flying, mountain climbing, skiing, driving down the freeway..... get the point

Not really, there is an invisible line between the acceptable and unacceptable. The greens will say that only none are acceptable but that's a lie. I'm pretty sure there die more people playing soccer than racing motorbikes. That doesn't make soccer unacceptable, but if there were one patrticular game where someone died every year, that match might be banned. More likely for the sake of the sport and it's reputation rather than from a group of soccer haters (like me ;-)).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jun 23 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not really, there is an invisible line between the acceptable and unacceptable. The greens will say that only none are acceptable but that's a lie. I'm pretty sure there die more people playing soccer than racing motorbikes. That doesn't make soccer unacceptable, but if there were one patrticular game where someone died every year, that match might be banned. More likely for the sake of the sport and it's reputation rather than from a group of soccer haters (like me ;-)).
highest mortality rate of any sport is golf. it's a fact, but most die from heart attacks cos there old but that doesnt matter its still killing people so mabe we should ban it.