The Silent victims of DMG

I recently had a run in with Josh Herrin at an airport on our way to Georgia from California. ( we were on the same flight). He turned out to be a very nice guy we talked about racing and some mutual aquatences we have. By the time we had to board the plane he had invited me over to his House in Georgia because they were going to have some WERA races at his house ( he has a track at home). unfortuanetly I wasn't able to attend because i was in GA for work purposes. I suggested he go to moto 2 as soon as possible and he agreed. After this expierence I started thinking that by me not watching or attending AMA events im not really Hurting DMG and all theyre stupidity and im not helping the Real Guys who go out there and put it all out on the line. Guys like Josh, Ben Bostrom, Tommy Hayden and all the really super cool privateers like Noodleizer. Next season I will attend the AMA round in Fontana and watch some of the races not for DMG but for the silent victims (the racers), but I will find a way to let DMG know what a ...... job theyre doing at the same time. Im Really hoping something gets resolved quickly before our National series goes further more down the drain.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The California Kid @ Dec 27 2009, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I recently had a run in with Josh Herrin at an airport on our way to Georgia from California. ( we were on the same flight). He turned out to be a very nice guy we talked about racing and some mutual aquatences we have. By the time we had to board the plane he had invited me over to his House in Georgia because they were going to have some WERA races at his house ( he has a track at home). unfortuanetly I wasn't able to attend because i was in GA for work purposes. I suggested he go to moto 2 as soon as possible and he agreed. After this expierence I started thinking that by me not watching or attending AMA events im not really Hurting DMG and all theyre stupidity and im not helping the Real Guys who go out there and put it all out on the line. Guys like Josh, Ben Bostrom, Tommy Hayden and all the really super cool privateers like Noodleizer. Next season I will attend the AMA round in Fontana and watch some of the races not for DMG but for the silent victims (the racers), but I will find a way to let DMG know what a ...... job theyre doing at the same time. Im Really hoping something gets resolved quickly before our National series goes further more down the drain.

That's a cool story CK. I'd love to hear more. If he can't or doesn't make the jump to Europe either in WSS or Moto2 than I'm afraid his career may be a complete wash. If he is given the opportunity than he must jump. Money should not be the sole consideration. You must make sacrifices in order to further your career and so far going back a few years every AMA guy outside of Chaz has made the wrong decision IMO to stay in America.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The California Kid @ Dec 27 2009, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I recently had a run in with Josh Herrin at an airport on our way to Georgia from California. ( we were on the same flight). He turned out to be a very nice guy we talked about racing and some mutual aquatences we have. By the time we had to board the plane he had invited me over to his House in Georgia because they were going to have some WERA races at his house ( he has a track at home). unfortuanetly I wasn't able to attend because i was in GA for work purposes. I suggested he go to moto 2 as soon as possible and he agreed. After this expierence I started thinking that by me not watching or attending AMA events im not really Hurting DMG and all theyre stupidity and im not helping the Real Guys who go out there and put it all out on the line. Guys like Josh, Ben Bostrom, Tommy Hayden and all the really super cool privateers like Noodleizer. Next season I will attend the AMA round in Fontana and watch some of the races not for DMG but for the silent victims (the racers), but I will find a way to let DMG know what a ...... job theyre doing at the same time. Im Really hoping something gets resolved quickly before our National series goes further more down the drain.
Unfortunately ,it is true that the rider is being hurt, but it is also unfortunately true that if we go to the races,we give DMG the only thing they care about, money. I cant think of any other way to get a point across to an organization that cares about nothing but money, than denying them money. If you dont,they will be with us for a long time.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Dec 27 2009, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Unfortunately ,it is true that the rider is being hurt, but it is also unfortunately true that if we go to the races,we give DMG the only thing they care about, money. I cant think of any other way to get a point across to an organization that cares about nothing but money, than denying them money. If you dont,they will be with us for a long time.

You are obsessed with DMG, and you are willing to pay much too high a price to defeat them.

Moto racing is currently a niche sport. The US motorcycle industry has destroyed itself by selling bad products on credit. The fans demand that the manufacturers and privateer teams spend tens of millions of dollars (cumulatively) to field AMA teams.

Our market is a disaster, but where does DMG enter into the fray? Besides being thoroughly unlikable and bungling attempts to write a consistent rule book, they aren't involved. The stock-bikes-suck mantra simply reinforces that the sport has little commercial relevance in the minds of fans who demand entertainment (both consciously and subconsciously).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Dec 30 2009, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You are obsessed with DMG, and you are willing to pay much too high a price to defeat them.

Moto racing is currently a niche sport. The US motorcycle industry has destroyed itself by selling bad products on credit. The fans demand that the manufacturers and privateer teams spend tens of millions of dollars (cumulatively) to field AMA teams.

Our market is a disaster, but where does DMG enter into the fray? Besides being thoroughly unlikable and bungling attempts to write a consistent rule book, they aren't involved. The stock-bikes-suck mantra simply reinforces that the sport has little commercial relevance in the minds of fans who demand entertainment (both consciously and subconsciously).
Didnt cost me damn dime to defeat them, and apparently we have defeated them, MAYBE. As a matter of fact, i bought a motorcycle and 2 big screen HD tv's with the money i saved while defeating them. Thats a win win in my book!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Dec 30 2009, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Didnt cost me damn dime to defeat them, and apparently we have defeated them, MAYBE. As a matter of fact, i bought a motorcycle and 2 big screen HD tv's with the money i saved while defeating them. Thats a win win in my book!

If things were really that good, you'd have no objection to DMG running the series. \

You are spinning a catastrophe as your own personal triumph. The catastrophe is not the bikes on the circuit, but the collapse of the US motorcycling industry under the weight of its own stupidity.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Dec 31 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If things were really that good, you'd have no objection to DMG running the series. \

You are spinning a catastrophe as your own personal triumph. The catastrophe is not the bikes on the circuit, but the collapse of the US motorcycling industry under the weight of its own stupidity.
I have no misconception that i did it alone. It took me and around 25000 of my fellow racing fans to bring this clown down,and maybe we did it in one year,we will see. Im not sure at all what you were trying to say in your first sentence.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Dec 31 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You are spinning a catastrophe as your own personal triumph. The catastrophe is not the bikes on the circuit, <span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%but the collapse of the US motorcycling industry under the weight of its own stupidity.
jeez lex..... the collapse of the industry..... please. US motorcycle roadracing won't even collapse. there are plenty of good series here in the states & when the manufactures come in & back say ccs or wera it'll be just as strong as it ever was. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif DMG & mud.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>What's happened with the American roadracing scene, I'm really disappointed to see for a lot of different reasons. For friends that are racing. There are so many talented people that don't have rides right now. The economy hasn't helped at all, but if rules would've stayed like they used to be, I believe every manufacturer would still be racing right now. It's just their budgets might be super minimal, and it wouldn't have the spark that it had, but everybody would still be racing. And now you've got guys with no jobs, guys with rides are probably riding for nothing, if anything. And what it really hurts in the end—who it's really affecting—are the young kids right now, that are coming up, that are right on the brink of doing something. This whole power trip could've cost four kids their future in racing, just because they missed that jump. It's pretty upsetting, just talking to people about it and seeing what's going on. I hate to say "I told you so," but there are a whole lot of people who were saying that if this kept going on like it's going, there wasn't going to be a series, or nobody racing. And right now, there's barely anybody racing. Unless anything changes, I don't know who's going to be really racing any more. It's a bad time right now, and I'm definitely not happy to see it, but what do you do? It's one of those things that happens, and hopefully it gets itself sorted out. Ben Spies