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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Oct 17 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/mot...al-controversy/
I agree with Stoner. The alloted amount is too small and they definitely need three compounds. It's also rather funny how he follows it up with, of course we would have no problem with it but other teams would. If that is true then why would he not go for it. What's with these riders that want everything to be fair all the sudden
Last and final thought: All tires will be supplied free of charge? WTF?
I agree with Stoner. The alloted amount is too small and they definitely need three compounds. It's also rather funny how he follows it up with, of course we would have no problem with it but other teams would. If that is true then why would he not go for it. What's with these riders that want everything to be fair all the sudden
Last and final thought: All tires will be supplied free of charge? WTF?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Oct 17 2008, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree with Stoner. The alloted amount is too small and they definitely need three compounds. It's also rather funny how he follows it up with, of course we would have no problem with it but other teams would. If that is true then why would he not go for it. What's with these riders that want everything to be fair all the sudden
Last and final thought: All tires will be supplied free of charge? WTF?
And as we expected,no Q's
Last and final thought: All tires will be supplied free of charge? WTF?
And as we expected,no Q's
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Oct 17 2008, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Last and final thought: All tires will be supplied free of charge? WTF?
free to the teams... somebody is paying.
free to the teams... somebody is paying.
Stoner decides to open his mouth to gain a little more self respect from what little he has left after Rossi destroyed him this year. He's just putting on a show for you guys, if anything he should of kept his mouth shut cuz anything out of his mouth is considered whining. Now Rossi on the other hand should be the one to advocate the safety of tires, more tire choices, etcc.... not Stoner.
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Hayden chimes in
he day’s work out of the way, Hayden was asked about the single tire proposal. The initial offer was that each weekend riders would get five tires in each of two compounds, chosen from seven different compounds that will be on offer all year. Rain tires would be limited to four a weekend total, with no qualifying tires or intermediates. That proposal was heavily criticized, mostly because if one compound was clearly inferior, the riders would have to make due with five tires for the weekend.
While most riders had full formed opinions, Hayden thought the first offer might just be the start of the bargaining process.
“They got to start somewhere, but it would be a shame if we only had four rain tires for the weekend,” he said. “We go to like Donington or the way Indy looked, guys wouldn’t really, probably go out Friday morning if it looked like it was going to rain all weekend. you’d want to save them for qualifying and the race. So, sort that out.”
Of equal concern was the abolition of qualifying tires. Hayden is a big fan of the super-sticky rubber and Michelin makes very good qualifiers.
“No qualifiers. I’ll miss the qualifiers,” he said. “It’s an exciting part of the weekend. And to ride one of these bikes on the limit with, ya know, qualifying tire, qualifying engine modes is quite a thrill. And like we had talked in the safety commission, you see guys-where were we at? Phillip Island last week-on the Saturday there, a lot more guys crashed at the end of Saturday morning session than Saturday qualifying because when you try to hang it out on race tires, it’s actually…we don’t have a lot of crashes on qualifying tires, because with the extra grip you can do it. So it will be interesting. It might be a little bit dull. I hope it’s not dull. A guy go out, put in a couple quick times early and you ain’t going to see no red helmets and guys going from 12th to second.
he day’s work out of the way, Hayden was asked about the single tire proposal. The initial offer was that each weekend riders would get five tires in each of two compounds, chosen from seven different compounds that will be on offer all year. Rain tires would be limited to four a weekend total, with no qualifying tires or intermediates. That proposal was heavily criticized, mostly because if one compound was clearly inferior, the riders would have to make due with five tires for the weekend.
While most riders had full formed opinions, Hayden thought the first offer might just be the start of the bargaining process.
“They got to start somewhere, but it would be a shame if we only had four rain tires for the weekend,” he said. “We go to like Donington or the way Indy looked, guys wouldn’t really, probably go out Friday morning if it looked like it was going to rain all weekend. you’d want to save them for qualifying and the race. So, sort that out.”
Of equal concern was the abolition of qualifying tires. Hayden is a big fan of the super-sticky rubber and Michelin makes very good qualifiers.
“No qualifiers. I’ll miss the qualifiers,” he said. “It’s an exciting part of the weekend. And to ride one of these bikes on the limit with, ya know, qualifying tire, qualifying engine modes is quite a thrill. And like we had talked in the safety commission, you see guys-where were we at? Phillip Island last week-on the Saturday there, a lot more guys crashed at the end of Saturday morning session than Saturday qualifying because when you try to hang it out on race tires, it’s actually…we don’t have a lot of crashes on qualifying tires, because with the extra grip you can do it. So it will be interesting. It might be a little bit dull. I hope it’s not dull. A guy go out, put in a couple quick times early and you ain’t going to see no red helmets and guys going from 12th to second.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Oct 17 2008, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What a ....... dogs breakfast this rule is going to be...
yep this could really spoil motogp no Q's.etc etc whats the racing going to be like ?
wonder if were going to see bike/tyre change.during a race (not for rain) if tyre choice is ...... up
yep this could really spoil motogp no Q's.etc etc whats the racing going to be like ?
wonder if were going to see bike/tyre change.during a race (not for rain) if tyre choice is ...... up
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Oct 17 2008, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>whats the racing going to be like ?
rossi's circus. fixed for him
rossi's circus. fixed for him
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Oct 17 2008, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yep this could really spoil motogp no Q's.etc etc whats the racing going to be like ?
wonder if were going to see bike/tyre change.during a race (not for rain) if tyre choice is ...... up
Qualifying will be a lot better without Q tires.
People will be on long runs instead of one lap then done. Drafting and finding clean lines will be extremely important.
It will be even more rapid fire when you have 18 people on a flying lap with 0:00 left in the session.
I will miss the raw performance of the Q tires, but I think Q is actually going to be better.
wonder if were going to see bike/tyre change.during a race (not for rain) if tyre choice is ...... up
Qualifying will be a lot better without Q tires.
People will be on long runs instead of one lap then done. Drafting and finding clean lines will be extremely important.
It will be even more rapid fire when you have 18 people on a flying lap with 0:00 left in the session.
I will miss the raw performance of the Q tires, but I think Q is actually going to be better.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27 @ Oct 18 2008, 06:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>congrat's to rossi on his 9th championship
stoner hayen't so much influence like rossi have.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 18 2008, 06:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner decides to open his mouth to gain a little more self respect from what little he has left after Rossi destroyed him this year. He's just putting on a show for you guys, if anything he should of kept his mouth shut cuz anything out of his mouth is considered whining. Now Rossi on the other hand should be the one to advocate the safety of tires, more tire choices, etcc.... not Stoner.
Thank you guys, too much last night and I needed to throw up.
I thank you for your assistance.
stoner hayen't so much influence like rossi have.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Oct 18 2008, 06:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner decides to open his mouth to gain a little more self respect from what little he has left after Rossi destroyed him this year. He's just putting on a show for you guys, if anything he should of kept his mouth shut cuz anything out of his mouth is considered whining. Now Rossi on the other hand should be the one to advocate the safety of tires, more tire choices, etcc.... not Stoner.
Thank you guys, too much last night and I needed to throw up.
I thank you for your assistance.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Oct 17 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thank you guys, too much last night and I needed to throw up.
I thank you for your assistance.
you're a disgrace for every upright stoner fan.
I thank you for your assistance.
you're a disgrace for every upright stoner fan.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27 @ Oct 18 2008, 08:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>you're a disgrace for every upright stoner fan.
I enjoy being disgraceful.
Change your number to #26 you muppet and leave us alone, defiling Casey and mighty Mick's number with your complete and utter .........
Edit: Just change your name back to Pinky and be done, Pinky was nicer than either of your alter ego's #27 or #56. It's like a gremlin, chuck some water on it and "poof" out comes some evil little ones, just more evil than the first one.
I enjoy being disgraceful.
Change your number to #26 you muppet and leave us alone, defiling Casey and mighty Mick's number with your complete and utter .........
Edit: Just change your name back to Pinky and be done, Pinky was nicer than either of your alter ego's #27 or #56. It's like a gremlin, chuck some water on it and "poof" out comes some evil little ones, just more evil than the first one.
I'm certainly going to miss the 1 lap qualifiers, but I'll reserve my judgement on qualifying till after a few races next year. I think qualifying this year has been fantastic.
As per usual Shinya, most of your comments are as stupid as Pinky's.
As per usual Shinya, most of your comments are as stupid as Pinky's.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Oct 17 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Qualifying will be a lot better without Q tires.
People will be on long runs instead of one lap then done. Drafting and finding clean lines will be extremely important.
It will be even more rapid fire when you have 18 people on a flying lap with 0:00 left in the session.
I will miss the raw performance of the Q tires, but I think Q is actually going to be better.
for hayden all stays same. average rider is average rider with or without Q's. the best always be the best. hayden not belong there. nothing change.
People will be on long runs instead of one lap then done. Drafting and finding clean lines will be extremely important.
It will be even more rapid fire when you have 18 people on a flying lap with 0:00 left in the session.
I will miss the raw performance of the Q tires, but I think Q is actually going to be better.
for hayden all stays same. average rider is average rider with or without Q's. the best always be the best. hayden not belong there. nothing change.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Oct 17 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I enjoy being disgraceful.
Change your number to #26 you muppet and leave us alone, defiling Casey and mighty Mick's number with your complete and utter .........
Edit: Just change your name back to Pinky and be done, Pinky was nicer than either of your alter ego's #27 or #56. It's like a gremlin, chuck some water on it and "poof" out comes some evil little ones, just more evil than the first one.
i'm definition of proper stoner's fan unlike you who are just little piece of .... like other so called his fans on this board.
Change your number to #26 you muppet and leave us alone, defiling Casey and mighty Mick's number with your complete and utter .........
Edit: Just change your name back to Pinky and be done, Pinky was nicer than either of your alter ego's #27 or #56. It's like a gremlin, chuck some water on it and "poof" out comes some evil little ones, just more evil than the first one.
i'm definition of proper stoner's fan unlike you who are just little piece of .... like other so called his fans on this board.
Julian Ryder thinks there's only going to be 150 tyres for testing for the whole season. That's a ....... joke, just like the whole single supplier rule.
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I do think the tires numbers are a bit low. Its like we are again trading problem for problem. If you chew up your tires in prac & qual, your done for the race. Again, we will have results determined by a tire situation. But I think Hayden is right in that this is to be a start to the figuring out of the best situation, I hope they allow for flexibility to make adjustments.
Damn, again, this off season is gonna be excruciating to wait out.
Damn, again, this off season is gonna be excruciating to wait out.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27 @ Oct 17 2008, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>you're a disgrace for every upright stoner fan.
Haha. Look in the mirror.
Haha. Look in the mirror.
