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Rossi is a shark!

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People have it all wrong. Rossi is a shark! Some people seem to think VR and MM are being too nice to one another and that means you either haven't watched MotoGP in the last 15 years or you don't remember very well.

VR is a shark and with every one of his direct rivals, with the exception of Biaggi whom he dislike even before being part of the circus, VR has always been on good terms with them, at first.

VR in the back of his head still thinks he wants to beat MM and be No 1. Will he do it? As it stands, the answer is more of a no than a yes. But should VR reach a point where there's a real battle between him and MM, I expect the niceties to go away. VR is good at making mash potatoes of his competition's brains. And these niceties, as far as I can tell, are all part of that plan.

For those who hate VR, saying he never had any competition, say this because they probably haven't watched the history unfold. Nowadays everyone thinks they were nobodies because that's what they became under the devastating effect of VR. And today you have a clear example of that. Lorenzo seems to be slowly becoming a nobody under the devastating effect of one who's probably another of those rare riders who are born once every 200 years, MM. Probably in 10 years, the nay sayers will say MM had no competition, when the reality is MM is making small game of them.

Time will tell.
 
I think Valentino is complimenting MM incessantly to make MM overconfident. When a rider becomes overconfident and feels invincible, he usually crashes.

MM seems to have a whole different level or pace to the field (which includes Valentino). It would be unwise of Valentino to antagonise MM, because MM could make him look rather silly.
 
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I respect and acknowledge Rossi's achievements in this sport, but there is no way in hell he will ever beat Marc Marquez. No way. At the most he might *when the circumstances are right* win a race... just maybe, but a Championship!? against Marquez!? on the Repsol Honda... not on this planet. It's funny how Rossi gets couple 2nd places and people get all excited... about what exactly? That he had the BEST opportunity to beat Marquez in Le Mans, even when Marc was in 10th position and Rossi had clear track, he still couldn't manage to win. There is no way, this was his best chance beside Marquez crashing or having a mechanical. Rossi is done when it comes to WC. Anybody else that thinks he has a chance is either delusional or just a Rossi fan boy.
 
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rossi fan boys are a plenty but Rossi is finished. he is lucky to be where he is but it makes racing fun. yes yes he is 7 time world champ (gp level) tired of hearing it. He mentally broke all of his opponents. Not happening with Marc. also if you watched the last race marc is the reason rossi made the mistake (JLO too).

its marc thats the shark not rossi. and MM is the first MM not the new rossi. lets clear that up before it starts. the only similarities is that marc wins and rossi won. everything else is different.
 
You must keep in mind that the Honda is polished and a winning beast...The Yamaha is a work in progress. IF Yamaha can actually bring together a well sorted package that would close the gap to the Honda's then you MAY see Valentino start the mindgames we used to see with Max and Sete...When Vale declared that Sete will never win another race (or something to that effect) it was completely true....
We don't yet know the type of mental strength Marquez has because nobody has actually been able to challenge him. It is up to the Yamaha engineers to help tell the true story of MotoGP.
Right now Lorenzo is mentally beaten the mistakes he has made this season shows how desperate he has become. Will he be able to recover?
 
You must keep in mind that the Honda is polished and a winning beast...The Yamaha is a work in progress. IF Yamaha can actually bring together a well sorted package that would close the gap to the Honda's then you MAY see Valentino start the mindgames we used to see with Max and Sete...When Vale declared that Sete will never win another race (or something to that effect) it was completely true....
We don't yet know the type of mental strength Marquez has because nobody has actually been able to challenge him. It is up to the Yamaha engineers to help tell the true story of MotoGP.
Right now Lorenzo is mentally beaten the mistakes he has made this season shows how desperate he has become. Will he be able to recover?

if you read the june road racing world klaus nohles (bridgstone tires) former 2000 gp rider. states that marquez never ever rides less than 100% and the only way others will beat him is for other to change there style to beat him. even if he crashes he gets back on the bike and the out lap already no fear. obviously i cropped the whole thing but i think he is fine mentally
 
rossi fan boys are a plenty but Rossi is finished. he is lucky to be where he is but it makes racing fun. yes yes he is 7 time world champ (gp level) tired of hearing it. He mentally broke all of his opponents. Not happening with Marc. also if you watched the last race marc is the reason rossi made the mistake (JLO too).

its marc thats the shark not rossi. and MM is the first MM not the new rossi. lets clear that up before it starts. the only similarities is that marc wins and rossi won. everything else is different.

I respect and acknowledge Rossi's achievements in this sport, but there is no way in hell he will ever beat Marc Marquez. No way. At the most he might *when the circumstances are right* win a race... just maybe, but a Championship!? against Marquez!? on the Repsol Honda... not on this planet. It's funny how Rossi gets couple 2nd places and people get all excited... about what exactly? That he had the BEST opportunity to beat Marquez in Le Mans, even when Marc was in 10th position and Rossi had clear track, he still couldn't manage to win. There is no way, this was his best chance beside Marquez crashing or having a mechanical. Rossi is done when it comes to WC. Anybody else that thinks he has a chance is either delusional or just a Rossi fan boy.

Are you guys really serious or just taking the piss? Rossi is 35 years old and beating Lorenzo into a cocked hat this year so far, MM is 21 and beating them both due to youthfulness and sheer talent. No denigration to Lorenzo meant, and I do understand that the tires are causing Lorenzo more issue than Rossi, but at the end of the day, to state that Rossi is "done" at 35 becaue some stunningly talented 21 year old on the best bike out there is beating him, and not mention that Rossi's 27 year old teammate is being beaten by the both of them is disingenuous to say the least.

I don't want to sound patronising (seriously I don't) but try watching some older races, especially from before Rossi's time. Each time a rider seriously surpasses all that we've seen before, many hail the new King. Some kings are more equal than others. I personally feel that MM is a superb rider, but try to be careful with emotive phrases. I was a Schwantz fan in (and before) the Rainey era and nothing would convert me to Rainey, even though I thought he had amzing talent. Same with Stoner in the "Rossi era" for me - that is the difference between fanbois and fans for me.

MikePio - 46 is 36 points ahead of 99, but still you opinine that Rossi is "finished" - really?? Lorenzo is 27 to Rossi's 35, yet Rossi is 36 points in front of Lorenzo, so, IYHO is Lorenxo "finished" also?? Who has finished closer to MM this year in each race, VR or JL?
 
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That would have been a mouthwatering prospect - i also maintain the same and would love to see who had the most raw talent.

Stoner would mentally break in no time at all. Marquez would rough him up a few times and he'd completely lose it.
 
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Judging by how close Rossi has been to MM; I think if Yamaha produced a bike which was on par with the Honda, then Rossi could beat MM. At the moment Yamaha has too many areas where it is 2nd best to the Honda.
 
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Yeah, he only won another 24 GPs and 1 WC after that fateful race. He was in tatters.

You asked when did he ever break, and that was one time that comes to mind. I wasn't saying that he was finished after that race.
 
You asked when did he ever break, and that was one time that comes to mind. I wasn't saying that he was finished after that race.


So if a rider is on a badly set up machine, because the factory lost the plot and rested on their laurels; caught up in the hype of their own brand.... So that the available lines are massively limited... and the guy falls, then picks up his bike and rides on to finish second... Then that's "breaking" is it?

Very strange.

Your original assertion was general, not specific. A point that you seem to forget in the specific nature of your justification.
 
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So if a rider is on a badly set up machine, because the factory lost the plot and rested on their laurels; caught up in the hype of their own brand.... So that the available lines are massively limited... and the guy falls, then picks up his bike and rides on to finish second... Then that's "breaking" is it?

Very strange.

Your original assertion was general, not specific. A point that you seem to forget in the specific nature of your justification.

He was on a badly setup machine? Have you actually watched the race I'm referring to? He was fastest all weekend and got pole position, but yeah, his bike was badly setup :p

Laguna Seca couldn't have been more specific. I could have said Laguna Seca 2008 but didn't think it was necessary.
 
He was on a badly setup machine? ...He was fastest all weekend and got pole position, but yeah, his bike was badly setup :p

Laguna Seca couldn't have been more specific. I could have said Laguna Seca 2008 but didn't think it was necessary.

No... I assumed 2008...

But why was he fastest all weekend? Because the Ducati was a dream to ride?

Thats your assumption mate.

Based on what??

The brilliant job VR and JB did on it a few years after?

Marco Melandri's failure to keep it on the track in that race? (Melandri was also actually on a bigger contract than Stoner that season due to historical reasons.)

He was fastest despite the hulking beast under him. Due to a little thing called talent allowing him to ride around the considerable limitations of the package he was on.

Oh, my point about your specific justification is that you made a general comment about Stoner's mental strength and when challenged, justified it with a specific example... A bogus example with no supporting evidence....

Where is your justification for your original, general comment?
 
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