Pedrosa shoots his mouth off again

What year was Nicky developing again? ...oh yeah 2006.

Whose ... did he kick on a regular basis in that season? ...thats right Dani Pedrosa's

Who was world champ in 2006? ... oh my god it was Nicky Hayden.

I'd say that falls under the category of things developing rather well.


I'd love to hear if any journos at that press conf challenged ........ on those remarks, and what his next witty quip was. little turd as frosty put it so well. Makes you think a whole lot differently about estoril, turns what was considered by many as an improbability into a possibility.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RCV600RR @ Jan 25 2008, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>From motogp.com

"firing a barb at team-mate Nicky Hayden when questioned about the American's leading the Honda development in his absence:

was Pedrosa's cutting riposte.

Such sentiments are not entirely unprecedented, with Pedrosa recently commenting to the Spanish press regarding his 'absolute' preference for competing in a single man team, justifying his sentiments by exclaiming "it's better to be alone than in bad company". In the same interview, Pedrosa mentioned that "apparently, the Champion doesn't know how to develop a bike".

These comments contrast sharply with the HRC President's claim that Hayden is the best development rider he has ever seen, since 'Fast' Freddie Spencer.
Maybe if that little .......... could stay on his bike and not get dinged every time has has a get off,he could be around to develope a bike.His body seems as weak as his heart..... him,put a barrier between the 2 in the garage and see how he like pulling the lions share of testing.I was about to the point of forgiving him for 2006 but now i hope he catches a case of incurable clap.Just because Nick wont bow down to him and suck his .... like Puig and Honda,He is bad company?Its on

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jan 25 2008, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its onAbout ....... time.

not necessarily that he's bad at developing...
they just have 2 opposite riding styles, one relies on the front, the other on the rear.

since hayden likes the rear tire his developments are more biased that way.
depending on the #1 rider things would go either way. if pedrosa was developing it, then hayden would have the same opinion. dont know if he'd actually say it in public but i bet he would think it! lol

have fun,
Hector

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jan 25 2008, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its on

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain Snow @ Jan 25 2008, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>not necessarily that he's bad at developing...
they just have 2 opposite riding styles, one relies on the front, the other on the rear.

since hayden likes the rear tire his developments are more biased that way.
depending on the #1 rider things would go either way. if pedrosa was developing it, then hayden would have the same opinion. dont know if he'd actually say it in public but i bet he would think it! lol
I agree, but as Povol says, now that Pedrobot is out of the testing game for a while ..... it's on.

every single one of these guys more than likes the front end. it was the honda chassis and how it affected the front that was causing all the problems with the hondas, for the factory and satellite guys. couldn't get no feeling. nicky's development has been as much about adapting his superbike style to ride the bike more on the front as it is about changing things on the bike. but whatever, it doesn't matter, the on topic point being pedrosa has let his veil of civility slip momentarily so we get to see the real guy and it ain't pretty. dannettes will say he's just so driven but that don't excuse it one bit. there isn't one guy in that whole paddock that you could make a credible case for being more determined that nicky, you can work hard and still be a sportsman. pedrosa is a tosser, i hope it bites him. should spur nicky on to hear ........ like that.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain Snow @ Jan 25 2008, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>not necessarily that he's bad at developing...
they just have 2 opposite riding styles, one relies on the front, the other on the rear.

since hayden likes the rear tire his developments are more biased that way.
depending on the #1 rider things would go either way. if pedrosa was developing it, then hayden would have the same opinion. dont know if he'd actually say it in public but i bet he would think it! lol

have fun,
Hector

And that is the difference between someone who has class and someone that is allways looking for an excuse.Like the old saying goes,its better to stay quite and let people think your an ...,than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

I don't think he's actually purposely critisising Nicky in that statement, I just think he's putting his views across.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Haga @ Jan 25 2008, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't think he's actually purposely critisising Nicky in that statement, I just think he's putting his views across.

No offense,but i think he actually is trying to criticize Hayden.I think he resents the fact that Hayden has a title and i think he resents the fact that Hayden is very popular in Europe.It would be just as easy to say,i really regret missing test time because Nicky and i have totally differnt styles and his set up doesnt work for me.Instead we get,

He has been in charge of developing a machine before and traditionally it hasn't gone so well
was Pedrosa's cutting riposte.

Such sentiments are not entirely unprecedented, with Pedrosa recently commenting to the Spanish press regarding his 'absolute' preference for competing in a single man team, justifying his sentiments by exclaiming "it's better to be alone than in bad company". In the same interview, Pedrosa mentioned that "apparently, the Champion doesn't know how to develop a bike".


I dont know where you come from but where i grew up.that is rude and could possibly get your ... kicked.I would rather be a champion that supposedly cant set up a bike than a wanna be champion that cant either.I guiess the part that scalded my ... the worse is the [better to be alone than in bad company].Hayden should have jacked his cowardly ... up in 06 and let him him know exactly how this relationship was going to work from the jump.

Hayden and Pedrosa didn't hit it off because they have such different personalities.

Nicky is all laid back and funny... Pedrosa is a boring midget

I agree with Skid (#7).. Hayden has got a different style than any other Honda rider out there. If leads the bike development the bike, it will be at the expense of EVERY other Honda rider out there. Remember they all, except Hayden, came through the GP ranks and thus have similar styles.

Comparing Hayden to Pedrosa during 2006 is naive. That year was Pedrosa's 1 st year in MotoGP. I think his performance in his deebut year was better than Nicky's .

On the other hand, Pedrosa should learn to be more civil to his team mate in press conferences.

If I could get a plane ticket to Sepang I'd be there as quick as possible to rip Dani a new ........

You read all the time and hear all the time about racers hurting a team and killing a team. This is just another case. Dani is the guy who only thinks about himslef and for what is best for him and not the team. Nicky is a team player. Dani wants to be numer one on Honda's team and with Nicky there he is pissed off and will do everything to get his way. Another reason I dislike Dani Pedrosa. He will kill Honda and ulitmatley get Nicky fired and end the team's competitivness. As long as Dani Pedrosa keeps running his mouth, he will bring Yamaha, Suzuki, Ducati, and Kawasaki closer to ending Honda's rein as the team with all the technological and innovations in MotoGP. He is single handed bringing Honda down, and the Honda lets it happen because of his talent and abilities on a bike.

Dani is a great rider, don't get me wrong, but he has an ego issue and an the whiner complex that would fit him much better in F1 than MotoGP.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (crvlvr @ Jan 25 2008, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree with Skid (#7).. Hayden has got a different style than any other Honda rider out there. If leads the bike development the bike, it will be at the expense of EVERY other Honda rider out there. Remember they all, except Hayden, came through the GP ranks and thus have similar styles.

Comparing Hayden to Pedrosa during 2006 is naive. That year was Pedrosa's 1 st year in MotoGP. I think his performance in his deebut year was better than Nicky's .

On the other hand, Pedrosa should learn to be more civil to his team mate in press conferences.

If that was aimed at me,i wasnt comparing their seasons,i was refering to the bonzai takedown that nearly cost Hayden and Honda a world title.Thats when he should have gotten the smackdown,physically and verbally.Pedro is a extremely gifted rider,but like somone else said,he can also be a team killer or a cancer as we call bad teammates over here.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Jan 25 2008, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hayden and Pedrosa didn't hit it off because they have such different personalities.

Nicky is all laid back and funny... Pedrosa is a boring midget


yeah im with you on that, another problem i have is why honda want schoolboy dani to develop the bike??? are they always going to recruit freakishly small people, when i look at the honda its so compact and i bet thrashing that for 30 laps is so uncomfortable for a normal sized guy, even tho dani is gettin the wins i personaly think haystack is a better option, i just think the bike is to compact and hayden cant move around it, or gettin in cornering possition properly, plus dani is lighter and i think the michelins dont wear out as quick as they do for nicky

lets weigh up the pros of each repsol rider.....

firstly pedders...

1. potential world championship winner...has 3 smaller class title in the bag, but no prestigious "big class" titles....

2. is spanish, so should be a big market draw in spain.


haydo.

1. some AMA titles for honda AND a world championship in 2006 for HRC in the class that counts...
lets face it, a motogp title counts for a lot more than a 125 title in the eyes of many...

2. has been a perfect honda representative for virtually his entire career...


and now for the cons...

hayden

...struggled to get to grips with the 07 RCV and had a dismal title defence,(albeit on a bike designed around an 8 year old).

..not really enough wins for a top class rider, but this can change...


pedrossssa

..despite being hired to win a championship, nearly cost honda/nicky a world title by trying to overtake at a corner where nobody tries that kind of .... on your title leading teammate...

has not shown himself to be able to mix it in a group and usually wins by staying out in front.was/is a complete wimp in the wet, but lemans may have shown that to have changed...

has the media personality of an empty plastic bag...



these comments of his IMO were very deliberate and are aimed at trying to unsettle hayden mentally...if it works, so be it but i do believe that pedrosa needs taking down a peg or 12....

I don't usually stand up for Dani but:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Jan 25 2008, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What year was Nicky developing again? ...oh yeah 2006. Duh, he'd been there for a while

Whose ... did he kick on a regular basis in that season? ...thats right Dani Pedrosa's Wow, Dani was a rookie, it was to be expected

Who was world champ in 2006? ... oh my god it was Nicky Hayden. Did you really expect Dani to be a rookie champ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jan 25 2008, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If that was aimed at me,i wasnt comparing their seasons,i was refering to the bonzai takedown that nearly cost Hayden and Honda a world title.Thats when he should have gotten the smackdown,physically and verbally.Pedro is a extremely gifted rider,but like somone else said,he can also be a team killer or a cancer as we call bad teammates over here.Povol, that was in response to Skid post #3 (although I agree with his post #7) Phleq refers to the same comment (by Skid) in the previous post

You know what bothers me most about all of Pedro's mind games...........they work. Nicky always wants to beat Pedrosa. Nicky's insane competitive nature is what holds him back. He is always thrashing equipment beyond it's durability and he frequently overrides.

Ever since he showed up and it was obvious he wasn't going to be the next Rossi, he has been fighting a miserable uphill battle. Life in the paddock is hard enough, life with Pedrosa is like an extra kick in the nuts.

In my best "Weird Science" voice...."Midgets, man, midgets."



F-Pedrosa. Maybe he can try out for one of the Seven Dwarves at Disneyland....