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i have read today in the MCNere in the uk that it has been reported that rossi is definatly staying in moto gp.
he says that f1 is not for the drivers but for the technicions ?? sorry 4 the spelling of that.
he goes on to say that all he could hear was these people telling him what and not what to do whilst driving the ferrari..
in motorcycle racing rossi says he needs to think and decide what and when to do sumert himself

on a more serious matter can we all take a minute to think of the riders that have died and been seriously injured in the practice week for the forthcoming IOM TT

thank you
 
It honestly is such a stupid race to have. No disrespect to any of the riders, alive or dead who have ever done it, they must all be immensely brave people. But theres a difference between pushing the limits of safety and just being outright deadly. I know the event has a lot of tradition and prestige, and it`s about the only industry the IOM has, but you gotta draw the line somewhere. It`s just ridiculous. They started that event back when racing bikes were slow. On todays nearly 200hp, 300kmph machines, it`s outrageous.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 1 2006, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It honestly is such a stupid race to have. No disrespect to any of the riders, alive or dead who have ever done it, they must all be immensely brave people. But theres a difference between pushing the limits of safety and just being outright deadly. I know the event has a lot of tradition and prestige, and it`s about the only industry the IOM has, but you gotta draw the line somewhere. It`s just ridiculous. They started that event back when racing bikes were slow. On todays nearly 200hp, 300kmph machines, it`s outrageous.

you'd think that with it happening so often they'd do something about it. i remember mick lofthouse who was a racer from the small town i live in died a number of years ago. its every year and its ridiculous that nothing is said or done about it
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gary @ May 31 2006, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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i have read today in the MCNere in the uk that it has been reported that rossi is definatly staying in moto gp.
he says that f1 is not for the drivers but for the technicions ?? sorry 4 the spelling of that.
he goes on to say that all he could hear was these people telling him what and not what to do whilst driving the ferrari..
in motorcycle racing rossi says he needs to think and decide what and when to do sumert himself

on a more serious matter can we all take a minute to think of the riders that have died and been seriously injured in the practice week for the forthcoming IOM TT

thank you
He said he doesn't "want to be an engine robot". If so, why did he test with Ferrari?
 
Yes I heard that there was a bad crash on Monday involving 2 riders.

Irish Rider Seamus Greens who is in critical condition with severe head injuries and a Japanese rider Jun Maeda who suffered pelvic injuries and 2 collapsed lungs..also hospitalised.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Best Man @ Jun 2 2006, 05:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>you'd think that with it happening so often they'd do something about it. i remember mick lofthouse who was a racer from the small town i live in died a number of years ago. its every year and its ridiculous that nothing is said or done about it

They just take it in their stride. They expect people to die every year and no matter how safe they try to make it, it`s still very fast motorcycles on poor surfaces at best with nothing but brick walls and buildings to slow them down if they crash. I`m all for aboloshing the TT, Or at least building a proper circuit for it. Nothing is more important in this sport than safety. Look at the MotoGP. One death and the rules get turned on their ear to make it safer, sure the descision got infected with manufacturer politics and there are doubts that the 800s will make it much safer, but at least they`re doing SOMTHING, and Kato didn`t die for nothing. Every year in the TT riders die and nothing gets done. I think it`s dishonouring the memory of those men to keep the race going the way it is.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gary @ May 31 2006, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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i have read today in the MCNere in the uk that it has been reported that rossi is definatly staying in moto gp.
he says that f1 is not for the drivers but for the technicions ?? sorry 4 the spelling of that.
he goes on to say that all he could hear was these people telling him what and not what to do whilst driving the ferrari..
in motorcycle racing rossi says he needs to think and decide what and when to do sumert himself

on a more serious matter can we all take a minute to think of the riders that have died and been seriously injured in the practice week for the forthcoming IOM TT

thank you
I don't think that Rossi would be as good as the likes of Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen anyway in Formula 1, and he definately wouldn't go there if he knew he wasn't going to win!
 
Couldn't have said it better myself Richo. I hate to say it just because there is so much tradition of IOM but it needs a proper circuit. It's just senseless to lose a handful of riders every year.
 
I think that Rossi won't be better than Alonso or Raikkonen, nomatter how long he was in F1.
 
True, Rossi would be a grid filler in F1. He has great skill, both on a GP bike and an F1 car, but he`s dominant in MotoGP, not F1. Guys like Alonso would eat him alive, which is exactly why he didn`t go. That and he`s got unfinished business in motoGP now
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 2 2006, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They just take it in their stride. They expect people to die every year and no matter how safe they try to make it, it`s still very fast motorcycles on poor surfaces at best with nothing but brick walls and buildings to slow them down if they crash. I`m all for aboloshing the TT, Or at least building a proper circuit for it. Nothing is more important in this sport than safety. Look at the MotoGP. One death and the rules get turned on their ear to make it safer, sure the descision got infected with manufacturer politics and there are doubts that the 800s will make it much safer, but at least they`re doing SOMTHING, and Kato didn`t die for nothing. Every year in the TT riders die and nothing gets done. I think it`s dishonouring the memory of those men to keep the race going the way it is.

couldnt agree with you more richo. but can anyone answer the question about why nothing has been done to stop these tragic accidents?? dont they care about the people who ride there??
 
I think because the Isle of Man is apparently it`s own sovreignty, their economy would pretty much go kaput without the TT. So they just invite riders every year to their deathtrap to make a few bucks. I know these people gotta make a living but I dont think the TT is the way to do it. I`m no expert, but theyre on an island, surrounded by water. I`m presuming theres fish there. That`s an industry. I`d rather hear of tuna getting slaughtered on the Isle of Man than Motorcycle racers.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dazza @ Jun 1 2006, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes I heard that there was a bad crash on Monday involving 2 riders.

Irish Rider Seamus Greens who is in critical condition with severe head injuries and a Japanese rider Jun Maeda who suffered pelvic injuries and 2 collapsed lungs..also hospitalised.

I heard that Maeda has died. What a waste. Seamus is very very ill, and he's a real nice guy too. I'm from Ireland and have raced in Ireland. I firmly believe that all racing on public roads should have been banned 30 years ago. Irish racing even on closed circuits is in the dark ages and is run by a bunch of gerriatric idiots. The TT is the same, how many more guys have to get wiped out before somebody does something about it? Don't start me.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Jun 10 2006, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I heard that Maeda has died. What a waste. Seamus is very very ill, and he's a real nice guy too. I'm from Ireland and have raced in Ireland. I firmly believe that all racing on public roads should have been banned 30 years ago. Irish racing even on closed circuits is in the dark ages and is run by a bunch of gerriatric idiots. The TT is the same, how many more guys have to get wiped out before somebody does something about it? Don't start me.
I think that is you're experienced enough you will be able to finish the Isle of Man TT without even falling off once or without a scuffle, but it is sad about the deaths.
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And this is what kind of crashes you get:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=Isle...e=search_videos
 
The guy's name was Paul Orrit, he crashed because of a broken steering damper. I think he broke a few bones so I don't want to see that again.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alex @ Jun 10 2006, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think that is you're experienced enough you will be able to finish the Isle of Man TT without even falling off once or without a scuffle, but it is sad about the deaths.
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its not really about experience alex.. the course is just so dangerous. its not like a racing circuit where you have run off areas and gravel traps.. on the TT if you come off you're straight into a wall. and bear in mind the course is run on public roads so you have all the hazards such as kerbing on the pavement. you clip that on a bike and you're coming straight off
 
my dad told me that the Isle of Man TT was a 'normal' GP like we know it right now. but I think it was kenny roberts snr who refused to ride on that track and many more riders followed him. After that, it became a race with the label that "if you won the TT, you're one of the best in the world" with eternal fame.

So I don't think that the races continue due to the fact that the Isle of man is a sovereign state and it's good for their economy, but because of the riders that just WANT to race there. Let them race, it's dangerous and they know it...
 
barry sheene said hed never race there, if u give a man a bike and say race then its only natural to push to the limit and on a tt track that where it a dead mans game,,, massive respect for every rider who rides in in but its not my cup of tea..
 

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