New Gibernau rumour

A couple of years ago ABN AMRO signed a $100m sponsorship deal in F1. think they got their name on the wing or something.

That one deal would have funded the MotoGP circus for a year....

Crrrazzy money in F1.



Snorvey

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Snorvey @ Sep 6 2008, 02:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>A couple of years ago ABN AMRO signed a $100m sponsorship deal in F1. think they got their name on the wing or something.

That one deal would have funded the MotoGP circus for a year....

Crrrazzy money in F1.



Snorvey

Didn't really help out ABN AMRO in the long term did it xD? It would be funny if that wing advertisement was what inspired RBS and Banco Santander to absorb them in the first place. Doubtful, but would be pretty funny. I can just picture some RBS exec watching his sunday F1 race and thinking 'hey, we should buy that' (conversely a Santander exec saying 'debemos comprar que!')

Which brings to mind, if WSBK can attract a sponsor like Santander for one of its teams, why can't MotoGP get a team sponsor like. Nothing but energy drinks and tobacco and italian cars and candy. Alice and marlboro are not small by any means, its just that financials give off a certain legitimacy to a racing series credibility as a business. By the way, anyone heard anything about the Movistar Telefonica rumor for replacing FIAT?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Sep 3 2008, 03:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>See this video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vn0Cfm-Mvs
Ah, I wish you wouldn't have reminded me of one of the reason why I didn't like Rossi back in the day. Obviously the overwhelming numbers of his fans look to this as a badge of courage, I will alway look at it as a badge of arrogance and bullying, as well as a clear lack of guts by race direction. Rossi got away with it, just as he did at Laguna this year at the Cork Screw. Very lucky to do so, but it could have spelled disaster for the other competitors to have such a reckless move. Its much easier to point to it and say it was fair and just a "racing incident" (which I hate this term because its most always misused) only because it didn't end in catastrophe.

Sete never full recovered from this incident. As you can see from the video, this is the type of racing well all stand and love. Sete didn't back down and neither did Rossi. It was hard but clean for the most part. Sete was on home soil, fighting for the win, pushed hard but played by the rules of the dangerous game, that is, until Rossi step over the line of sportmanship. Of course, I'm sure Sete realized after nothing was done about it that he would have to risk injury to get ahead. Many have said Sete is not and was not mentally tough, but I disagree, I believe Sete was not that type of person to get back at Rossi in a way that would have compromised his integrity. Sadly, just like Biaggi, Sete has been vilified.

I love close racing, just like I personally witnessed at Laguna. But some moves are over the top. I'm positive his fans would not think these moves "fair" had they been done by somebody on him. ...., I am reminded of the reputation Elias got in Turkey, you would have thought they might waterboard the fellow. And Rossi himself whined and cried foul and expressed that he was none pleased. It reminded me of his curse on Sete. What arrogance Rossi showed.

Now having said all that, I think the last two years of being beat on the track has humbled him a bit. To his credit, I think he has matured since then a bit. This is one reason why I thought the Laguna Cork Screw move was more of a mistake spawned by desperation rather than & UNLIKE the calculated bully move we see in the video. For this reason I have felt more acceptance toward him. The desperation revealed his more human side to me. I think him coming back to kiss the track at the very spot was an indication that he had gotten away with one. The kiss to me was more an acknowledgment of this rather than one of those look-at-me post race celebrations (which I hate). But this kiss had nothing of the arrogance I had seen in the past, this is why I CHEERED instead of jeered.

Yup, every time I see that video, it reminds me of a guy I didn't like...but the man he has become is one I have grown to admire and appreciate.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Sep 7 2008, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ah, I wish you wouldn't have reminded me of one of the reason why I didn't like Rossi back in the day. Obviously the overwhelming numbers of his fans look to this as a badge of courage, I will alway look at it as a badge of arrogance and bullying, as well as a clear lack of guts by race direction. Rossi got away with it, just as he did at Laguna this year at the Cork Screw. Very lucky to do so, but it could have spelled disaster for the other competitors to have such a reckless move. Its much easier to point to it and say it was fair and just a "racing incident" (which I hate this term because its most always misused) only because it didn't end in catastrophe.

Sete never full recovered from this incident. As you can see from the video, this is the type of racing well all stand and love. Sete didn't back down and neither did Rossi. It was hard but clean for the most part. Sete was on home soil, fighting for the win, pushed hard but played by the rules of the dangerous game, that is, until Rossi step over the line of sportmanship. Of course, I'm sure Sete realized after nothing was done about it that he would have to risk injury to get ahead. Many have said Sete is not and was not mentally tough, but I disagree, I believe Sete was not that type of person to get back at Rossi in a way that would have compromised his integrity. Sadly, just like Biaggi, Sete has been vilified.

I love close racing, just like I personally witnessed at Laguna. But some moves are over the top. I'm positive his fans would not think these moves "fair" had they been done by somebody on him. ...., I am reminded of the reputation Elias got in Turkey, you would have thought they might waterboard the fellow. And Rossi himself whined and cried foul and expressed that he was none pleased. It reminded me of his curse on Sete. What arrogance Rossi showed.

Now having said all that, I think the last two years of being beat on the track has humbled him a bit. To his credit, I think he has matured since then a bit. This is one reason why I thought the Laguna Cork Screw move was more of a mistake spawned by desperation rather than & UNLIKE the calculated bully move we see in the video. For this reason I have felt more acceptance toward him. The desperation revealed his more human side to me. I think him coming back to kiss the track at the very spot was an indication that he had gotten away with one. The kiss to me was more an acknowledgment of this rather than one of those look-at-me post race celebrations (which I hate). But this kiss had nothing of the arrogance I had seen in the past, this is why I CHEERED instead of jeered.

Yup, every time I see that video, it reminds me of a guy I didn't like...but the man he has become is one I have grown to admire and appreciate.
that's funny. i thought you liked close racing. as schwantz said "you dont get to be a multi champ by laying down and pretending to be dead" some may call this arrogance and bullying", i call it the desire to win

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 6 2008, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>that's funny. i thought you liked close racing. as schwantz said "you dont get to be a multi champ by laying down and pretending to be dead" some may call this arrogance and bullying", i call it the desire to win
Yup. I read what Schwantz said about the racing at Laguna. And I agree with him. Its just that I think that particular move was a bit much on Sete. But did you read the rest of my post. I think the man has matured and won my admiration. I think he has become a bit more humble. I haven't seen the look-at-me productions this year. (But then again, he may in Valencia when they blow up the red smoke.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 7 2008, 03:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>that's funny. i thought you liked close racing. as schwantz said "you dont get to be a multi champ by laying down and pretending to be dead" some may call this arrogance and bullying", i call it the desire to win

Difficult for looser to understand.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Sep 7 2008, 03:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yup. I read what Schwantz said about the racing at Laguna. And I agree with him. Its just that I think that particular move was a bit much on Sete. But did you read the rest of my post. I think the man has matured and won my admiration. I think he has become a bit more humble. I haven't seen the look-at-me productions this year. (But then again, he may in Valencia when they blow up the red smoke.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Sep 7 2008, 03:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Difficult for looser to understand.
jumkie like close racing as long as they dont get in each other's way like block passing, thats not close racing but "dirty racing" in his opinion little bit of a personal joke here between me and jumkie

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 7 2008, 06:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>not close racing but "dirty racing" in his opinion

Ah, good times.