Mugello

Rossi cautious on Mugello chances
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/59138

I will give a summary of this article:

Rossi: "If I don't win in Mugello, my tyres and my straight line speed are to blame."

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ May 26 2007, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I will give a summary of this article:

Rossi: "If I don't win in Mugello, my tyres and my straight line speed are to blame."
Thanks, I didn't feel like reading the whole thing.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ May 27 2007, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thanks, I didn't feel like reading the whole thing.
You're welcome

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ May 27 2007, 01:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi cautious on Mugello chances
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/59138

I will give a summary of this article:

Rossi: "If I don't win in Mugello, my tyres and my straight line speed are to blame."

do you have a job ToniElias coz you clearly have way too much time on your hands as all you do is endlessly look for articles which you can interpret in a way to have a dig at Rossi.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valentino Is God @ May 27 2007, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>do you have a job ToniElias coz you clearly have way too much time on your hands as all you do is endlessly look for articles which you can interpret in a way to have a dig at Rossi.
I have Rossi basher as a job

So what about you ? Do you have a job ? Seems you have also a lot of time on your hands because you are always replying

yawn
Same .... different day.

So what's Rossi supposed to say? Everyone knows the Ducati is faster in a straight line than any other bike out there, so Mugello with it's big straight favours it. Everyone knows that Rossi has had problems with the tyres.

I just don't see this whining Rossi character that our fried ToniElias sees. Rossi is just telling it like it is as far as I can tell.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valerian @ May 27 2007, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I just don't see this whining Rossi character that our fried ToniElias sees. Rossi is just telling it like it is as far as I can tell.

Its quite simple really. TE feels thats Rossi should be more gracious in his defeat than to pick appart his equipment and accept that Stoner in particular has been doing a fantastic job, but others feel he is doing the standard job of a racer which is too look for what they feel is the limiting factor and make it known (either to justify result or to search for improvement). I think he is not the most gracious out there and there are nicer guys in racing, but he is by no means one of the bad ones and he doesn't often bother me.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valerian @ May 27 2007, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So what's Rossi supposed to say? Everyone knows the Ducati is faster in a straight line than any other bike out there, so Mugello with it's big straight favours it. Everyone knows that Rossi has had problems with the tyres.

I just don't see this whining Rossi character that our fried ToniElias sees. Rossi is just telling it like it is as far as I can tell.
some people just see what they want to see,it just goes to show how hatred can clowd a persons judgment on reality.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 27 2007, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>some people just see what they want to see,it just goes to show how hatred can clowd a persons judgment on reality.

Lets not forget of course that love does the same thing, but thats the whole idea of these forums i guess.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 27 2007, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its quite simple really. TE feels thats Rossi should be more gracious in his defeat than to pick appart his equipment and accept that Stoner in particular has been doing a fantastic job
Indeed !!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Valerian @ May 27 2007, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So what's Rossi supposed to say? Everyone knows the Ducati is faster in a straight line than any other bike out there, so Mugello with it's big straight favours it. Everyone knows that Rossi has had problems with the tyres.

I just don't see this whining Rossi character that our fried ToniElias sees. Rossi is just telling it like it is as far as I can tell.
Hi Valerian, welcome to the forum. You make a great point and question. But here is what I think. It’s one thing to reveal/explain (some would say "blame") certain elements after the race, once the results are known. But I think its quite another thing to anticipate an explanation (some might say "excuse" or "rationalization") of potentially "not" wining before a race. So now what happens if he wins. Will he be scrambling for an explanation?


I think what Rossi has done by making those comments has effectively tainted the result no matter what happens now. What he has done is an attempt to invalidate the result if he does not win--and this is nothing more than un-gracious. I realize Valerian, you may not see it this way, but consider for a moment if Casey would have said something similar before Jerez, something like, only if Rossi's bike and tires are perfect, will Rossi beat me at Jerez because that's the only way Rossi can beat me. (Do you see the message in that? It wouldn't be giving credit to Rossi the rider, but to his machinery. Well its the same message Rossi's pre-race comments are making! Its like saying, Rossi only wins when his package (bike/power/tires,etc) is perfect/superior, othersiwise is is anticipating not to win! Well, in that case and in this spirit, the rest of grid should forfeit now. Crown Casey the victor, and lets all go home.


Even though some on here would lead you to believe that Rossi can win even when his bike isn't perfect (Or as I remember it being said) "Rossi will win if his bike is not less than ....." It’s this idea that has been repeated and perpetrated here often. So now what, his fans now only accept Rossi to win if his bike is perfect and nothing less? Haha, its laughable how the rationalizations have evolved. Look, Casey and Rossi's machinery are infact close enough all things considered (straights speed and corner speed) so it seems to me he is now splitting hairs and making excuses. What he had been saying after a sub-par race, is now being done before a race.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ May 27 2007, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hi Valerian, welcome to the forum. You make a great point and question. But here is what I think. It’s one thing to reveal/explain (some would say "blame") certain elements after the race, once the results are known. But I think its quite another thing to anticipate an explanation (some might say "excuse" or "rationalization") of potentially "not" wining before a race. So now what happens if he wins. Will he be scrambling for an explanation?
I think what Rossi has done by making those comments has effectively tainted the result no matter what happens now. What he has done is an attempt to invalidate the result if he does not win--and this is nothing more than un-gracious. I realize Valerian, you may not see it this way, but consider for a moment if Casey would have said something similar before Jerez, something like, only if Rossi's bike and tires are perfect, will Rossi beat me at Jerez because that's the only way Rossi can beat me. (Do you see the message in that? It wouldn't be giving credit to Rossi the rider, but to his machinery. Well its the same message Rossi's pre-race comments are making! Its like saying, Rossi only wins when his package (bike/power/tires,etc) is perfect/superior, othersiwise is is anticipating not to win! Well, in that case and in this spirit, the rest of grid should forfeit now. Crown Casey the victor, and lets all go home.
Even though some on here would lead you to believe that Rossi can win even when his bike isn't perfect (Or as I remember it being said) "Rossi will win if his bike is not less than ....." It’s this idea that has been repeated and perpetrated here often. So now what, his fans now only accept Rossi to win if his bike is perfect and nothing less? Haha, its laughable how the rationalizations have evolved. Look, Casey and Rossi's machinery are infact close enough all things considered (straights speed and corner speed) so it seems to me he is now splitting hairs and making excuses. What he had been saying after a sub-par race, is now being done before a race.

You tell him Jumkie, he should be a gracious and never say die racer like Hayboy.....