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MotoGP......... more laps, pit-stops

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SuperShinya56

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Why the eff does motorcycle racing, in this case MotoGP, run so very few laps as compared to auto racing such as F1? If anything cars like F1 requires alot more physical strength than motorcycle racing because of the bigger.... way way bigger load of g-forces the driver has to endure from cars, but yet motorcycle racing laps are half of that of automobile racing. Bike race time are an hour, and automobile racing are for 2.



Need more laps in Motorbike racing...... AND pit-stops for fuel and tires would be great. These guys on bikes are suppose to be athletes !! They can endure it.
 
SuperShinya56 said:
Why the eff does motorcycle racing, in this case MotoGP, run so very few laps as compared to auto racing such as F1? If anything cars like F1 requires alot more physical strength than motorcycle racing because of the bigger.... way way bigger load of g-forces the driver has to endure from cars, but yet motorcycle racing laps are half of that of automobile racing. Bike race time are an hour, and automobile racing are for 2.



Need more laps in Motorbike racing...... AND pit-stops for fuel and tires would be great. These guys on bikes are suppose to be athletes !! They can endure it.
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go watch the european enduance series man, you will love that .... if thats what your into
 
digger said:
go watch the european enduance series man, you will love that .... if thats what your into
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I never said 'endurance' racing. If anything MotoGP is cutting the race way way short of an actual race.



Come on now..... Suzuka 8 hours? And yet, MotoGP can't extend their laps into 2 hours? Race distance is too short...... I think pit stop refueling and new tires will add another element into the race. NOT that I would like a race to be decided by the pit crew, but then again........ motorsports IS a team sport. I just think it's a fair game as far as rider and team goes, cuz everyone is involved....... even Uccio who does nothing but cleans Rossi's visor.
 
how would stoner go having to not be able to wash the sand out of his ...... for another 20 laps
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F1 drivers are exposed to much higher g's, but they are strapped in a protective cacoon. They have to have way above average neck and shoulder development, but on the whole, rididng a GP bike is much more tiring on the entire body. Heavy braking on Gp bike is much more stressing to the body than F1. Not because it creates more G's, its less, but the riders has to fight the G's with his strength, while an F1 driver is held in place by harness's. Riding a extremely high performance bike on the absolute edge for 45 minutes is mentally and phsically exhausting, especially when it 90-100 degrees outside. With that being said, i wouldnt mind seeing the races extended long enough to include a pit stop. It would add a different demension of strategy. An hour would be plenty, after that it would be dangerous.Endurance racing has many rider switches, you just cant do 2 hour stints on the edge while riding a bike.
 
Dont like longer races or pit stops - boring. Like more racing - two races per day like SBK. One in the morning one afternoon different conditions more variables. Pay money to go more is better not longer.
 
birdman said:
Dont like longer races or pit stops - boring. Like more racing - two races per day like SBK. One in the morning one afternoon different conditions more variables. Pay money to go more is better not longer.
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That would be even better.
 
I always wondered why they don't do a 2 race format, cause that would be MUCH better than one long one. It's about the riders, not team strategy and pit crews - right?



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birdman said:
Dont like longer races or pit stops - boring. Like more racing - two races per day like SBK. One in the morning one afternoon different conditions more variables. Pay money to go more is better not longer.
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Totally agree with that!!
 
2 races a day just makes each race half as important and reduces the spectacle, and doubles the net points gain in the stronger riders favour on any given day. I would be extremely disappointed if this happened.
 
i think F1 should go the same way as Moto-gp, fill the cars full of fuel and let them battle with no pit stops, no ...... strategy and no silly diffusers! I agree that Moto-gp should have a similar set up as WSBK, 2 races are always gonna be better 1
 
Tom said:
2 races a day just makes each race half as important and reduces the spectacle, and doubles the net points gain in the stronger riders favour on any given day. I would be extremely disappointed if this happened.
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agreed.
 
Tom said:
2 races a day just makes each race half as important and reduces the spectacle, and doubles the net points gain in the stronger riders favour on any given day. I would be extremely disappointed if this happened.
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Theoretically yes, but add in the doubled opportunity for mistakes/crashes, uncertainty over grid positions and new pressures on reliability and stamina and I think overall things would be more exciting.



Having said that, we would have to watch Casey moan about winning twice which would suck
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It's a balance between spectacle and racing excitement - the gap between the two will never be large enough for them to actually implement that kind of change. The races are so long in F1 they need strategy and pitstops just to keep things interesting. Personally I find motogp to be a more intense and exciting, and with the exception of a few races it's hard to lose interest over 20-30 laps where as I generally switch off F1 between the start and the pit stop phase.
 
motortom said:
Theoretically yes, but add in the doubled opportunity for mistakes/crashes, uncertainty over grid positions and new pressures on reliability and stamina and I think overall things would be more exciting.



Having said that, we would have to watch Casey moan about winning twice which would suck
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It's a balance between spectacle and racing excitement - the gap between the two will never be large enough for them to actually implement that kind of change. The races are so long in F1 they need strategy and pitstops just to keep things interesting. Personally I find motogp to be a more intense and exciting, and with the exception of a few races it's hard to lose interest over 20-30 laps where as I generally switch off F1 between the start and the pit stop phase.
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They are not called Grand Prix for nothing. Every single race is supposed to be a big deal. Strategy has always been important in F1, it is not an afterthought to make it interesting. Pitstops were invented by Bernie Eccelstone to get a competitive edge over the competition.
 
I wasn't suggesting that strategy was 'invented' for the purposes of making the sport interesting, I was exaggerating to make the point that I find F1 gets rather dull ie. that without it the races aren't exciting enough.



I also made the point that the racing in motogp is different, and is exciting enough for them not to need to introduce a second race/longer race with pit stops. Races would still be a big deal, there would just be more of them - you'd still have the best riders in the world on the best bikes.
 
SuperShinya56 said:
Why the eff does motorcycle racing, in this case MotoGP, run so very few laps as compared to auto racing such as F1? If anything cars like F1 requires alot more physical strength than motorcycle racing because of the bigger.... way way bigger load of g-forces the driver has to endure from cars, but yet motorcycle racing laps are half of that of automobile racing. Bike race time are an hour, and automobile racing are for 2.



Need more laps in Motorbike racing...... AND pit-stops for fuel and tires would be great. These guys on bikes are suppose to be athletes !! They can endure it.
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And why the eff don't these bikes have wings like on an F16? Those planes pull crazy Gs, and the pilots are fit as hell. And they can lap your country in like five minutes. They should fly to the moon.



Why don't we make the riders jump hurdles while the techs are giving their bikes an oil change?



Seriously though, I'm going to vote for simplicity as well. If I want gimmicks there are million sports I can choose from. Even when MotoGP racing isn't the best, it's through no fault of the format.
 
Tom said:
2 races a day just makes each race half as important and reduces the spectacle, and doubles the net points gain in the stronger riders favour on any given day. I would be extremely disappointed if this happened.
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I'm willing to drive 10 hours and pay 100 bucks this year to watch a 45 minute motogp race. Thats my problem but if i get to watch 2 races and 90 minutes well thats double the spectacle, double the value. Make morning warmup a race instead.
 

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