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MotoGP 600 class

I'm gutted.

DORNA have beat the AMA to the new motorcycling revolution. The 600cc class will become the most entertaining, most-watched class in the world.

The bikes will be designed for performance, looks, and cost-efficiency. They will be accessible to racers and the general public alike (like sports cars in the 60s). I'm watching my fantasy unfold but it is happening on the wrong continent.

I can't imagine DORNA will govern the sport competently so their is still a ray of hope for the AMA.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jul 30 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm gutted.

DORNA have beat the AMA to the new motorcycling revolution. The 600cc class will become the most entertaining, most-watched class in the world.

The bikes will be designed for performance, looks, and cost-efficiency. They will be accessible to racers and the general public alike (like sports cars in the 60s). I'm watching my fantasy unfold but it is happening on the wrong continent.

I can't imagine DORNA will govern the sport competently so their is still a ray of hope for the AMA.
I still think that it will be good racing but the most exciting yet remains to be seen. Plus .... the ama and Rodger Edmosnson. The Gaytona superbike class as a 600 is stupid. Merely speaking from a marketing perspective cause NO ONE uses that faggish terminology. These asswipees are trying to reinvent the wheel.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Jul 30 2008, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I still think that it will be good racing but the most exciting yet remains to be seen. Plus .... the ama and Rodger Edmosnson. The Gaytona superbike class as a 600 is stupid. Merely speaking from a marketing perspective cause NO ONE uses that faggish terminology. These asswipees are trying to reinvent the wheel.

Like I said, if DMG had never publicly announced the change to 600s before it never happened, they could have saved themselves a lot of heartache.
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Edmonson is an ....., but not because of his ideas for the sport. He's an ..... because he's cast out the Nazi's of AMA and made himself a villian in the process.

You may as well call him Stalin.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jul 30 2008, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Like I said, if DMG had never publicly announced the change to 600s before it happened, they could have saved themselves a lot of heartache.
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Edmonson is an ....., but not because of his ideas for the sport. He's an ..... because he's cast out the Nazi's of AMA and made himself a villian in the process.

You may as well call him Stalin.
Yeah but I still think the liter bikes are the ones to be watching and not the 600's. But I totally agree with you about roger cause he is a real stupid ... and really has no clue. They need fresh blood in there and not his old ... trying to make something that is the motorcylce version of Nascar. A real shame. They should really copy WSBk and get in line with them. OR like the big 4 threatened to do which I would much rather have which is an American Superbike Series run without those at DMG or the AMA. Really when you think of it who needs em?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jul 30 2008, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm gutted.

DORNA have beat the AMA to the new motorcycling revolution. The 600cc class will become the most entertaining, most-watched class in the world.

The bikes will be designed for performance, looks, and cost-efficiency. They will be accessible to racers and the general public alike (like sports cars in the 60s). I'm watching my fantasy unfold but it is happening on the wrong continent.

I can't imagine DORNA will govern the sport competently so their is still a ray of hope for the AMA.

You have totally lost me,there has been a support 600 class for years in AMA,actually 2 of them.Unless you know something i dont know,these GP 600 bikes will either be like 600 SS or Formula Extreme or somewhere in between.What is it about this class that has you gooing your sheets at night. 600 racing has allways been some of the best racing weather it WSS or AMA SS.I wasnt against Daytona Superbikes,i was against Daytona Superbikes being the main attraction.It would be like the new GP 600's being the main attraction over Moto Gp.The new rules that Edmondson announced recently are not what they seem.He failed to mention that the 600's were still going to be the double header class which has caused more delay on the factory teams.They are not convinced it is worth the time or money to race once a weekend and have stock 600's and slow ... Moto ST bikes as the bikes that get the track time.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 30 2008, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You have totally lost me,there has been a support 600 class for years in AMA,actually 2 of them.Unless you know something i dont know,these GP 600 bikes will either be like 600 SS or Formula Extreme or somewhere in between.What is it about this class that has you gooing your sheets at night. 600 racing has allways been some of the best racing weather it WSS or AMA SS.I wasnt against Daytona Superbikes,i was against Daytona Superbikes being the main attraction.It would be like the new GP 600's being the main attraction over Moto Gp.The new rules that Edmondson announced recently are not what they seem.He failed to mention that the 600's were still going to be the double header class which has caused more delay on the factory teams.They are not convinced it is worth the time or money to race once a weekend and have stock 600's and slow ... Moto ST bikes as the bikes that get the track time.
you are right about how the 600 class whatever the name is will be and should be good close racing. The fact that they are pushing the series into the 600cc premier class is just plain stupid. you would think they want to keep the crop of U.S. guys at the highest possible level.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 30 2008, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You have totally lost me,there has been a support 600 class for years in AMA,actually 2 of them.Unless you know something i dont know,these GP 600 bikes will either be like 600 SS or Formula Extreme or somewhere in between.What is it about this class that has you gooing your sheets at night. 600 racing has allways been some of the best racing weather it WSS or AMA SS.I wasnt against Daytona Superbikes,i was against Daytona Superbikes being the main attraction.It would be like the new GP 600's being the main attraction over Moto Gp.The new rules that Edmondson announced recently are not what they seem.He failed to mention that the 600's were still going to be the double header class which has caused more delay on the factory teams.They are not convinced it is worth the time or money to race once a weekend and have stock 600's and slow ... Moto ST bikes as the bikes that get the track time.

The new GP class is going to be largely spec. Major components will be spec, and the technology will be available to a plethora of young upcoming riders (regardless of what market they're from). When riders/sponsors believe good rides are available, money and talent will come pouring into the class. Everyone's favorite rider, regardless of market, will have a machine capable of winning races or collecting podiums.

What could be better for ratings? Plus DORNA won't have to pick riders from key markets and put them on the best stuff to make sure they make the premier class.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jul 30 2008, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The new GP class is going to be largely spec. Major components will be spec, and the technology will be available to a plethora of young upcoming riders (regardless of what market they're from). When riders/sponsors believe good rides are available, money and talent will come pouring into the class. Everyone's favorite rider, regardless of market, will have a machine capable of winning races or collecting podiums.

What could be better for ratings? Plus DORNA won't have to pick riders from key markets and put them on the best stuff to make sure they make the premier class.


Is that not exactly what we have now in AMA.A 600 spec bike,no internal mods,DOT tires,30-40 bikes in the field.Just about anyone can go SS racing if they want to.A stock 600 with a good tune and good setup can be had for under 10k.The rider makes the difference in SS racing since all the 600's are within 1000ths of each other rolling of the showroom floor.I will tell you one thing that excites me about 600 Gp bikes,it will put young riders on level playing field with the Europeans since they will have to cut their teeth on smilar equipment.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 30 2008, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is that not exactly what we have now in AMA.A 600 spec bike,no internal mods,DOT tires,30-40 bikes in the field.Just about anyone can go SS racing if they want to.A stock 600 with a good tune and good setup can be had for under 10k.The rider makes the difference in SS racing since all the 600's are within 1000ths of each other rolling of the showroom floor.I will tell you one thing that excites me about 600 Gp bikes,it will put young riders on level playing field with the Europeans since they will have to cut their teeth on smilar equipment.

Peak power regulations via power-to-weight ratios is sort of spec. All I care about is the wide distribution of competitive equipment. Spec helps distribute equipment because it lessens the impact of manufacturer run teams.

I'm definitely excited about the new 600cc GP class. Around 120hp with no traction control? This should be a field day for Australians and Americans. This new GP class is going to attract a ton of talent if DORNA stick to the plan and avoid tweaking the results to get key market riders into GP.
 
The new 600 class is a good thing here cause us Americans are going to be dealing with Gaytona Superbike which will be a 600 class bike. SO I can see how we may have some americans in the support classes in the GP's but if you look even now we have never really had Americans in those support classes so I don't really know that the paralell will make much of a difference.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Jul 30 2008, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Does this mean MotoGP will go to 1200cc??? =)

yea and they will do 250mph down the straights.
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i think this means we are stuck at 800.. for safety and to still be a number ahead of the 600.
 
Wonder how well the bike will be balanced if it has left side drive and the exhaust on the left as well

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that was a joke
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Jul 31 2008, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yea and they will do 250mph down the straights.
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i think this means we are stuck at 800.. for safety and to still be a number ahead of the 600.
HUH HUh safety. Yeah that has gone well for em eh?
 
I havent dont much research into it and i don't know much about the bikes technically. I don't understand how a 600cc bike is going cost less than a 250cc bike. Can someone explain this to me?

Gracias
 
"If it ain't broke don't fix it. If the people in charge really think they can really fill a grid with four-strokes when we can't even get close to a full grid in Moto GP, They've got another thing coming. The FIM really need to get involved in this - they're letting someone else run the sport for them."

Jerry Burgess
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nickgp @ Aug 1 2008, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I havent dont much research into it and i don't know much about the bikes technically. I don't understand how a 600cc bike is going cost less than a 250cc bike. Can someone explain this to me?

Gracias

600cc bikes are going to be spec oriented. Currently privateers are paying somewhere around $500,000 to run customer equipment (not even as good as factory stuff). Ezy said the sport needs to provide more equal equipment to privateers for around $100,000.

Basically they are nixing/reducing development.
 

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