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Mick Doohan talks about Stoner's chances with Honda

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Stoner can win on my bike: Doohan

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8234233

By Ben Horne





Motorcycling great Mick Doohan says Casey Stoner won't be fazed by his weekend crash and believes the Australian still has a golden chance to win this year's MotoGP.



Doohan, who spent his entire career on a Honda, says Stoner has made the right decision to rejoin the company from Ducati, and has what it takes to challenge Jorge Lorenzo in 2011.



Stoner was taken out by Valentino Rossi in last weekend's Spanish grand prix, losing his championship lead as a result.



But Doohan said that after just two rounds, the incident will only affect the 25 year-old's chances this year if he lets it get to him.



"That's right. I'm sure neither one of them would be thinking about it anywhere as hard as the press are writing about it, so it's just get on with the next event and focus on that to get the best result," Doohan told AAP at a Laureus Sports initiative with Indigenous kids on Thursday in Sydney.



"It really is just a racing incident. I don't make anything more of it than what it really was. Both of those guys are known for having a go, you don't win races following people, you've actually got to be in front to win.



"I know I've taken people out, I've been taken out and I'm sure Casey's been involved the other way around as well, so it's inevitable when you are racing in close company with people that those things are going to happen."




Lorenzo was a runaway winner of the championship on his Yamaha in 2010, but Doohan is adamant Stoner lost confidence on his Ducati, and is now capable of challenging the Spaniard again because he's back on the more consistent Honda.



Doohan argued that Stoner's Ducati is the primary reason for the four-year drought since he last won the MotoGP title in 2007.



Stoner's start to the year has seen him win the season-opening event and take two pole positions.



Doohan said it's now up to the Queenslander to turn the solid platform into a championship victory.



" I think he only needs to finish ahead of him (Lorenzo) in half a dozen races and he can make up those points ... but consistency is the key," he said.



"Lorenzo last year - I'm pretty sure he was on the podium at most events and that's what he needs to do.



"The way he had to ride that Ducati ... when a bike's not right it's easy to crash on it. You don't have feel, you tell yourself 'well ok, that's as far as I want to push it', but you tend to question your ability and the bike's ability.



"The Honda is more consistent and probably giving him more feedback. Unless you're on one of those (Honda or Yamaha) it's hard to race for the championship.



"At least he's on the Honda so I think he's got a good chance of a title."








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It almost sounds like Mr Doohan is not a Bopper
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He's dead right
 
It almost sounds like Mr Doohan is not a Bopper
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He's dead right





Are you sure? Maybe he is !!?? because he doesn't criticise Rossi for anything in that crash.
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It seems his opinion is very much different with yours and a lot of others, and myself.

I,m sure his not a bopper, but he aint a hater ieder. this one was the nicest i read in his comments:



"I know I've taken people out, I've been taken out and I'm sure Casey's been involved the other way around as well, so it's inevitable when you are racing in close company with people that those things are going to happen."



And that comes from someone who has done it all and knows what he says.
 
but he aint a hater ieder.





You've lost me ........ this hater crap is juvenile, ........ , idiotic, whinging of the highest order...... etc. etc. etc. ad-nauseum ..
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You folk ridicule Stoner from dawn to dusk .... no 24 hours a day
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........ then the moment somebody says something negative about Rossi, its wall to wall ..... whinge.



I do have negative things to say about Rossi, so I say them. I really could not give a flying .... if you think I hate him or not, but FFS it does get mindlessly boring being constantly surrounded by dipshits whinging and boohooing because somebody does not share their ridiculous infatuation.



Thank the living Christ the mormans are so much more open minded, and interesting, than you repetitive sooking Boppers
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What did you guys expect, no racer in their right mind is going to admit publicly to anything other than its a racing incident. In fact, all crashes, every move ever in racing has been racing incidents. Nothing ever is seen as much more than that. You guys are still looking for the press release where somebody will admit to recklessness. You're not gonna find it. You can wear it as your hat all you want. When Creville and Doohan crashed, why did he go have a word with him? Did he need clarification about what is a racing incident?
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(Explain that) Even Stoner himself said it was a racing incident, is this some kind of revelation here? Hardly.
 
everyone's entitled to their opinions. it's just funny that people on both sides are trying to convince each other that their own viewpoint is what is correct.
 
everyone's entitled to their opinions. it's just funny that people on both sides are trying to convince each other that their own viewpoint is what is correct.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion as to the motives of the respective riders. Making rossi the injured party and stoner the villain after being torpedoed in this fashion as some are attempting to do is what clearly diverges from any semblance of rationality.
 
Everyone is entitled to an opinion as to the motives of the respective riders. Making rossi the injured party and stoner the villain after being torpedoed in this fashion as some are attempting to do is what clearly diverges from any

semblance of rationality.

Who is making Stoner out to be the villain? Nobody has said that the

incident was stoners fault. The

conjecture is about his ridiculous

reaction jumping the fence trackside,

I haven't read anywhere that states the accident was stoners fault.



Are you searching for contiuous support to the 'love Casey' cause. of course the accident was rossi's fault. Stoner could have used this in an extremely beneficial way to completely turn around his public image, however he chose to be himself and do the opposite.
 
Who is making Stoner out to be the villain? Nobody has said that the incident was stoners fault. The conjecture is about his ridiculous reaction jumping the fence trackside, I've haven't read anywhere that states the accident was stoners fault.



Are you searching for contiuous support to the 'love Casey' cause. of course the accident was rossi's fault. Stoner could have used this in an extremely beneficial way to completely turn around his public image, however he chose to be himself and do the opposite.

Says you in another post in which you again try to make the trivial aftermath of the incident the issue.



You didn't read jumkie's recent list of common logical/debating fallacies did you?.
 
I think you will find that Doohan was a great supporter of Rossi when Rossi first appeared on the scene. Doohan hasn't really had much to do with Stoner while Stoner was at Ducati but a little birdie has told me that he has shown a lot more interest in Stoner since his switch to Honda
 
everyone's entitled to their opinions. it's just funny that people on both sides are trying to convince each other that their own viewpoint is what is correct.



Exactly, we all have only an opinion, and no one can put his opinion above those of others. Our opinion is based on our feelings and what we see that moment, but it could always be a wrong one.
 
Everyone is entitled to an opinion as to the motives of the respective riders. Making rossi the injured party and stoner the villain after being torpedoed in this fashion as some are attempting to do is what clearly diverges from any semblance of rationality.

More like some trying to confused 2 issues into one. Just because you have been wronged make's you think a separate wrong on the same day is passable. I know your not a stupid man so that just means your trying to be manipulative for your own bias. Good stuff but don't expect all of us to fall for it
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More like some trying to confused 2 issues into one. Just because you have been wronged make's you think a separate wrong on the same day is passable. I know your not a stupid man so that just means your trying to be manipulative for your own bias. Good stuff but don't expect all of us to fall for it
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I wish I would have been brilliant enough to create a thread titled: 'Should Rossi be disqualified for making a pass by short cutting the track' in 08. It would have had more merit. Oh well, lost opportunity. Fact remains though, it was clearly the breaking of rules, and we have the video to prove it! But a least those of use who care about the integrity of the sport will know the score when it comes to rules applied arbitrarily, eh compa.

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I wish I would have been brilliant enough to create a thread titled: 'Should Rossi be disqualified for making a pass by short cutting the track' in 08. It would have had more merit. Oh well, lost opportunity. Fact remains though, it was clearly the breaking of rules, and we have the video to prove it! But a least those of use who care about the integrity of the sport will know the score when it comes to rules applied arbitrarily, eh compa.

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It is against the rules but only if you gained an advantage in possition, whiuch he did not as he was in front before "cutting the corner" !
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It is against the rules but only if you gained an advantage in possition, whiuch he did not as he was in front before "cutting the corner" !
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It is not or was not a rule in motogp at the time, and hence discussion of it is irrelevant much like your focus on the trackside clapping , but in those forms of motorsport where it is a rule, and certainly in F1, maintaining a place by such means is also regarded as gaining an advantage in position
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You are avoiding the question anyway, you are well aware that the trackside clapping issue is a red herring. You have not established that stoner broke any rules. If he has broken a rule it is odd that this has not even been raised by officialdom; perhaps like most if he did break a rule they consider it a minor infraction and an understandable response to what happened to him. Certainly it was a pretty mild reaction to such an incident by most standards including rossi's.



It seems likely that if valentino shot casey you would post about your concern that he might have risked lead poisoning when he loaded the gun.
 

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