Michelin's Progress

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 30 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sure, you say that now...but as they say: "you can't teach a old dog new tricks." So I predict you will later go back to your old habit of blaming the tires and even seeing catastrophic failures for a certain Yamaha rider.

When was this tread named "What will babel blame in the feature".
Look like you have trouble getting anything sensible out these days. This one was as predictable as, humm, an old dog I guess the one in the Pedrosa tread was plain awful.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 30 2008, 03:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Here is my prediction. If the Michelin riders do better than Rossi, then Babel will say Rossi is suffering from poor tires. If Rossi does well on the Bridgestones, than Babel will say Rossi is so much better than those Michelin riders.

yeah just like you lot say with casey oh oh 2006 it was the bike....

2007 wow casey is so legendry.....blah blah blah

just an example stoner fans keep your knickers on......

so whats the difference????? exactly.... a change of equipment can improve your performance or make it decline, problem we have now that if rossi doesnt win on stones we are gonna have the , rossi is .... , rossi has lost it , he has the best and still cant win....etc
the thing you must remember is whatever he is on he stays at the top..... if he doesnt win again this year on bridgestones the there is always next year, you lot are wimpering already even tho the stones/yamaha combination hasnt been race tested.
yamaha still have to pull there fingers out of there poop shoots to, just because lorenzo and colin are setting quicker times after 3 minutes of testing dont mean .... what matters is how they perform on race day.....

dam a different set of tires and now the anti-fans are thinking that if he doesnt perform like he has the space shuttle boosters strapped to his bike hes crap.....
if he wins on bridgestones there wont be no... hes better than michelin riders it will just be that he finaly got a suitable pakage to make the win possible, but as i say most of the performance must come from yamaha, the only point of the bridgestones is so he is able to have more durablility and last race distance.
at the end of the day even if the pakage isnt suitable atleast he still has the skill to stay in the top 3 something which very few riders are capable of.....

so while you attic moths are getting ready to fly out if he doesnt become WC dont bother cos im just gonna swat you back in.....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Jan 31 2008, 08:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nope, Boonah is about an hour SSW of Brissie, near the Dividing Range, between Ipswich and Warwick. I'd definitely rather live here without cable than in Melbourne (where I had cable) though.

Where are you based?
You could always get Austar satellite there. BTW I've just got rid of FOX and am also getting the package off motoGP. I've heard mixed reports about it but I couldn't be bothered waiting for 10 to show it at some stupid time. Anyway, at least I get qualifying as well.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Jan 30 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nope, Boonah is about an hour SSW of Brissie, near the Dividing Range, between Ipswich and Warwick. I'd definitely rather live here without cable than in Melbourne (where I had cable) though.

Where are you based?
Sydney, but I tend to head up your way, to the north coast of NSW anyway, for holidays.

As son of doohan said you probably could get austar; they give you a dish I think. They have a limited number of the cable channels but I think you get the sports channels which give you the live motogp and wsbk coverage, but possibly not the (quite) delayed ama and british superbikes. Probably not worth it though if the dorna site coverage is reasonable.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jan 31 2008, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah just like you lot say with casey oh oh 2006 it was the bike....

2007 wow casey is so legendry.....blah blah blah

just an example stoner fans keep your knickers on......

so whats the difference????? exactly.... a change of equipment can improve your performance or make it decline, problem we have now that if rossi doesnt win on stones we are gonna have the , rossi is .... , rossi has lost it , he has the best and still cant win....etc
the thing you must remember is whatever he is on he stays at the top..... if he doesnt win again this year on bridgestones the there is always next year, you lot are wimpering already even tho the stones/yamaha combination hasnt been race tested.
yamaha still have to pull there fingers out of there poop shoots to, just because lorenzo and colin are setting quicker times after 3 minutes of testing dont mean .... what matters is how they perform on race day.....

dam a different set of tires and now the anti-fans are thinking that if he doesnt perform like he has the space shuttle boosters strapped to his bike hes crap.....
if he wins on bridgestones there wont be no... hes better than michelin riders it will just be that he finaly got a suitable pakage to make the win possible, but as i say most of the performance must come from yamaha, the only point of the bridgestones is so he is able to have more durablility and last race distance.
at the end of the day even if the pakage isnt suitable atleast he still has the skill to stay in the top 3 something which very few riders are capable of.....

so while you attic moths are getting ready to fly out if he doesnt become WC dont bother cos im just gonna swat you back in.....


Silliest post ever, so much of your thought attributed to others.

I think the main difference is the guy is maturing .... he's only young.

All the stuff worked for him thats all you can say for 07 ...... to say he had "the best" this and that is just hoohickey.

Mind you this year when h did perform so well I have begun to think maybe the guy did know what he was on about when he was complaininng that the fron doesn't work for him on the LCR ..... but to be honest I don't think such specualtion, from fans, is worth 2 cents.

I can tell you why you come up with such tripe though ...... probably with 99% accuracy too

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jan 31 2008, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah just like you lot say with casey oh oh 2006 it was the bike....

2007 wow casey is so legendry.....blah blah blah

just an example stoner fans keep your knickers on......
Rossi himself seems to think the tyres are crucial, particularly their durability, and I think recently said that he can cope with an inferior bike with good tyres but not the reverse. One of his major skills in the past has been his ability to preserve his tyres for the end of the race, but perhaps electronics or improved tyre technology by bridgestone have negated this.

I freely acknowledge that rossi is an all-time great rider who has had one of the great careers already if he retires tomorrow, whilst stoner is a rider who has had one great season. I can understand rossi fans being annoyed with people wanting to call stoner a legend; at the very least this is premature. However I wouldn't call him a flash in the pan either until he demonstrates he is one; this should be apparent by about mid-season .

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jan 31 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I can understand rossi fans being annoyed with people wanting to call stoner a legend; at the very least this is premature. However I wouldn't call him a flash in the pan either until he demonstrates he is one; this should be apparent by about mid-season .


I can't understand why they get annoyed ....... Abe became a legend with one race!! ...... and that one race was worth 20 of many other riders races .... maybe it was the equal of Laguna 07, Catalunya 07 and Brno 07 all in one .... but that still makes Stoner a legend. He also managed to piss off more Rossi fans than any other man in history, even Hayden ........ thats pretty legendary Biaggi tried his hardest to annoy the Rossi fans ( but really he just annoyed everyone ) Stoner didn't even try .... just happened cos he won

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Hmmmm... I think Michelin might just be resorting to their old tricks, just to look good. They can not make custom tyres on saturday nights any more due to race regulations, but in testing there is no restriction, so I suspect they just flew in some last-minute developments. We'll have to wait for the first races to check where they nreally are.

Meanwhile, Stoner remains the fastest Bridgestone rider both on qualifiers and race tyres. he consistently laps half a second faster than others, just like last year. He is the man everybody is looking up to.

Rossi is improving on race tyres, still can not exploit qualifiers properly. The Yam seems to run equally well on Michelins and Bridgestones in these tests...!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Jan 31 2008, 05:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>---

Hmmmm... I think Michelin might just be resorting to their old tricks, just to look good. They can not make custom tyres on saturday nights any more due to race regulations, but in testing there is no restriction, so I suspect they just flew in some last-minute developments. We'll have to wait for the first races to check where they really are.
Interesting - I was also pondering this possibility, but then again the last 2 tests have actually been nearer to B'Stones HQ. Did Michelin do Sat night specials outside of Europe?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jan 31 2008, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You could always get Austar satellite there. BTW I've just got rid of FOX and am also getting the package off motoGP. I've heard mixed reports about it but I couldn't be bothered waiting for 10 to show it at some stupid time. Anyway, at least I get qualifying as well.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jan 31 2008, 01:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sydney, but I tend to head up your way, to the north coast of NSW anyway, for holidays.

As son of doohan said you probably could get austar; they give you a dish I think. They have a limited number of the cable channels but I think you get the sports channels which give you the live motogp and wsbk coverage, but possibly not the (quite) delayed ama and british superbikes. Probably not worth it though if the dorna site coverage is reasonable.
Cheers for the info guys. As I'm only back home until May (back to the UK for more work) it doesn't make any sense to tie myself to a contract with Austar.

That's the other advantage of the motogp package for me - I can use it in the UK too. I found it fine when I used it in the UK, but apparently it has issues for the US guys who have trouble getting on to watch the race. I guess that's because it is the only way to watch it in the US and Dorna haven't got enough bandwidth over there yet.

As far as WSBK is concerned I get it off racing underground the following day (both here and in the UK) - usually manage to avoid the result too

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jan 31 2008, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I can't understand why they get annoyed ....... Abe became a legend with one race!! ...... and that one race was worth 20 of many other riders races .... maybe it was the equal of Laguna 07, Catalunya 07 and Brno 07 all in one .... but that still makes Stoner a legend. He also managed to piss off more Rossi fans than any other man in history, even Hayden ........ thats pretty legendary Biaggi tried his hardest to annoy the Rossi fans ( but really he just annoyed everyone ) Stoner didn't even try .... just happened cos he won
only in your mind !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Jan 31 2008, 06:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Cheers for the info guys. As I'm only back home until May (back to the UK for more work) it doesn't make any sense to tie myself to a contract with Austar.

That's the other advantage of the motogp package for me - I can use it in the UK too. I found it fine when I used it in the UK, but apparently it has issues for the US guys who have trouble getting on to watch the race. I guess that's because it is the only way to watch it in the US and Dorna haven't got enough bandwidth over there yet.

As far as WSBK is concerned I get it off racing underground the following day (both here and in the UK) - usually manage to avoid the result too
Sounds like you are well set-up. All jokes and jingoism aside, I have spent a lot of time in england and in london especially, and I think it is great except for the weather which is dismal nine months of the year; you appear to be limiting yourself to only 3 months of dismal weather .

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Jan 31 2008, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Cheers for the info guys. As I'm only back home until May (back to the UK for more work) it doesn't make any sense to tie myself to a contract with Austar.

That's the other advantage of the motogp package for me - I can use it in the UK too. I found it fine when I used it in the UK, but apparently it has issues for the US guys who have trouble getting on to watch the race. I guess that's because it is the only way to watch it in the US and Dorna haven't got enough bandwidth over there yet.

As far as WSBK is concerned I get it off racing underground the following day (both here and in the UK) - usually manage to avoid the result too
For what its worth you dont have to sign a contract with Austar, its on a monthly basis.
I just gave up Austar after 7 years with them, apart from the racing ,which was brilliant the rest was crap and cost too much.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Jan 31 2008, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Cheers for the info guys. As I'm only back home until May (back to the UK for more work) it doesn't make any sense to tie myself to a contract with Austar.

That's the other advantage of the motogp package for me - I can use it in the UK too. I found it fine when I used it in the UK, but apparently it has issues for the US guys who have trouble getting on to watch the race. I guess that's because it is the only way to watch it in the US and Dorna haven't got enough bandwidth over there yet.

As far as WSBK is concerned I get it off racing underground the following day (both here and in the UK) - usually manage to avoid the result too

I have Austar and just so happen to have a "spare" satellite dish sitting on the roof of my garage! If you can source a decoder somewhere you are welcome to come and get it!

Only a few short weeks till live racing on Sunday nights ... it's been too long!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pepik128 @ Jan 31 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>For what its worth you dont have to sign a contract with Austar, its on a monthly basis.
I just gave up Austar after 7 years with them, apart from the racing ,which was brilliant the rest was crap and cost too much.
The min per month still seems to be $57 with a $50 install fee so I reckon you are right.

AFAIK all TV (AUS or elsewhere) other than motorsports, rugby and cricket is crap

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ Jan 31 2008, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have Austar and just so happen to have a "spare" satellite dish sitting on the roof of my garage! If you can source a decoder somewhere you are welcome to come and get it!

Only a few short weeks till live racing on Sunday nights ... it's been too long!
Cheers for the offer, but I think it's still a bit too expensive given the fact that the TV can be off for months at a time here. No m'sport, rugby (U) or cricket and the tube is silent. A couple of years ago we had a huge blow through and didn't notice that it had spun the aerial through 180 degrees for 3 months until the boxing day test!

BTW the ship is now in Brissie - bike will doubtless be stuck in customs for a week or two, then will need a RWthy etc. Do you ride? If so we could maybe arrange to meet up one weekend....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jan 31 2008, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sounds like you are well set-up. All jokes and jingoism aside, I have spent a lot of time in england and in london especially, and I think it is great except for the weather which is dismal nine months of the year; you appear to be limiting yourself to only 3 months of dismal weather .
Sadly my dismal weather quotient is usually higher than 3 months per year. Spent 21 months in the UK this last time - got home 9th Dec, leaving again in May. Still one UK winter in two aint as bad as really living there. And I have to think of the money.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jan 31 2008, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I can't understand why they get annoyed ....... Abe became a legend with one race!! ...... and that one race was worth 20 of many other riders races .... maybe it was the equal of Laguna 07, Catalunya 07 and Brno 07 all in one .... but that still makes Stoner a legend. He also managed to piss off more Rossi fans than any other man in history, even Hayden ........ thats pretty legendary Biaggi tried his hardest to annoy the Rossi fans ( but really he just annoyed everyone ) Stoner didn't even try .... just happened cos he won
Did you believe Stoner was a legend and as talented as Rossi a few years ago when all he could do was sling it up the track?

Rossi has shone from day one.

BTW Stoner winning doesn't piss real Rossi fans off because they are racing fans and realistically every rider eventually retires.

Bollox talked by bandwagon Stoner fans, however....