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Lozenzo overtook under yellow flags without penalty!

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seusouber

Joined Jul 2015
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Portugal
Hi,


A lot of people is talking about "fairness" these days! :)
I would like to add another race moment to the discussion and take a break for a moment from the "HOT" incident. :D


Lorenzo overtook VR under yellow flags, and was not penalized on any way.
Is it fair that Lorenzo was not penalized at the time?
Either Race direction has not spot the infringement, or they have decided to not force him to drop a position. :)


Here is the ruling about yellow flags (From motogp.com)
"Yellow Flag
Shown waved at each row of the starting grid, this flag indicates that the start of the race is delayed. Shown waved at the flag marshal post, this flag indicates that there is a danger ahead. The riders must slow down and be prepared to stop. Overtaking is forbidden up until the point where the green flag is shown.

Any Infringement of this rule during a practice session will result in the cancellation of the time of the lap during which the infraction occurred. In case of infringement of this rule during the race, the rider must go back the number of positions decided by the Race Direction."
 
They called the yellow flag when Ianonne's GP15 but the dust. He was behind Lorenzo, so he was clear of the flag.
 
There was no yellow flag. And even of there was, what penalty do you want ? Drive through ? Blackflag ? So you want a harsher penalty for overtaking under yellow than for kicking your rival out of the race ?

Yes, the race directors have ...... up MotoGP by giving Rossi such a nonsense penalty for one of the biggest fauls I have ever seen in MotoGP. Rules are nonexistent anymore.
 
seusouber said:
thanks for that!
Here at the forum with all the "pointless" arguments about MM/VR i was not able to see this. :)

Strange why the flag was raised after they passed. Nobody crashed in front of them.:rolleyes:
RD has more cameras than i do, so they should know better.
cheers
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Easy and has been stated by RD and journalists

The flag was not waved for a crashed rider but for a slowing Ianonne behind VR/JL.

The video that has been posted with the claims of the over take does not show the flag point until JL/VR are well past it, at which point if you watch the video, nearer the flagpoint is Ianonne offline and slow.

Essentially, the flag was not waving before VR/JL came through because there was no need, but shortly thereafter the flag marshall identified Ianonne and thus waved the flag. The video angle does not show the flag point until the riders are well past it and thus some 2 seconds after the incident the video shows the waved flag which has led to speculation that it was waving when VR/JL came past

Race Direction investigated ....... no case to answer
 
Plus Rossi/Yam didn't appeal. And had there been a case, they would have, 100%
 
Marc Marquez said:
There was no yellow flag. And even of there was, what penalty do you want ? Drive through ? Blackflag ? So you want a harsher penalty for overtaking under yellow than for kicking your rival out of the race ?

Yes, the race directors have ...... up MotoGP by giving Rossi such a nonsense penalty for one of the biggest fauls I have ever seen in MotoGP. Rules are nonexistent anymore.
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Your comment is OFF-TOPIC! I am not mixing this up anywhere with MM.
Just asked because i only follow the official motogp website and i did not see there the news about this (but was raised and not clarified on the press-conference).
I learned how much off a big deal the yellow can be when MM bike almost took 3 or 4 marshals and CC.
Maybe, if there was a fault and JL was back in the middle of VR/MM the both of them would have more brains!

End off discussion for me!
cheers
 
seusouber said:
Your comment is OFF-TOPIC! I am not mixing this up anywhere with MM.
Just asked because i only follow the official motogp website and i did not see there the news about this (but was raised and not clarified on the press-conference).
I learned how much off a big deal the yellow can be when MM bike almost took 3 or 4 marshals and CC.
Maybe, if there was a fault and JL was back in the middle of VR/MM the both of them would have more brains!

End off discussion for me!
cheers
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It is not offtopic. The RD has set a precedence. You can't penalize anyone anymore. If kicking riders out of the track is only penalized by 3 driver license points, than how on earth are you gonna penalize someone for passing under yellow ? You simply can't anymore. So it doesn't matter if it happened or not. End of discussion and this thread.
 
https://www.change.org/p/director-d...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink


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I trust in justice as well as I trust in people professionally and rigorously applying their responsibilities in the most efficient and impartial manner.

Therefore, I host the conviction that Mr. Mike Webb (MotoGP Race Director) and the FIM stewards are able to judge the incidents happened in the last Motogp race in Malaysia with this efficiency and impartiality.

To do so, I’m asking them to ask to HRC team and then review, the telemetry of Marc Marquez with special focus on throttle and brake data during the 14 overtakes with Valentino Rossi to compare it with the data from the Qualifying.

For sure, they will find conflicts (stops and/or not full throttle when Marquez was on front) that demonstrate the real intention of the pilot which really was to create a dangerous situation and to damage Valentino Rossi.

Doing that intentionally and with no real fight for the championship is repeated in Marquez over the years (other pilots suffered it before)

I ask for a penalty or, at least, a warning to make Marquez understand that this behaviors are not allow (for anybody) and that he don’t cheat to all Motogp fans during the last Malaysia GP.
 
Racingboy said:
https://www.change.org/p/director-d...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink


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I trust in justice as well as I trust in people professionally and rigorously applying their responsibilities in the most efficient and impartial manner.

Therefore, I host the conviction that Mr. Mike Webb (MotoGP Race Director) and the FIM stewards are able to judge the incidents happened in the last Motogp race in Malaysia with this efficiency and impartiality.

To do so, I’m asking them to ask to HRC team and then review, the telemetry of Marc Marquez with special focus on throttle and brake data during the 14 overtakes with Valentino Rossi to compare it with the data from the Qualifying.

For sure, they will find conflicts (stops and/or not full throttle when Marquez was on front) that demonstrate the real intention of the pilot which really was to create a dangerous situation and to damage Valentino Rossi.

Doing that intentionally and with no real fight for the championship is repeated in Marquez over the years (other pilots suffered it before)

I ask for a penalty or, at least, a warning to make Marquez understand that this behaviors are not allow (for anybody) and that he don’t cheat to all Motogp fans during the last Malaysia GP.
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And the colour of the sky on your planet is?...
 

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