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Laguna Seca

Austin

Austin

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From what I have read the final changes being made to Laguna Seca are finishing up. These changes include further run off in turn one and six, a new media center and a layout change in the run from turn six to the corkscrew. From my understanding, the track has been leveled out so the enterance to the corkscrew is more level with better visability so it is no longer a blind enterance. The enterance was changed because of certain riders complaining of the blind nature of the corner. Nicky Hayden had the following to say about the change:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I think it's a pretty weak move, really. That's kind of what made the Corkscrew special, was it was blind, and it had a dip, and you had to get over it without wheelieing. Now it's just a little straight, a little corner just like anyplace else in the world. I'm not - that's what made it cool. Nonetheless, it's still, the Corkscrew's still good, but I'd have just as soon left it the way it was. I really liked the lead-up to it, the blind way, and how you kind of had to lean it right and then left. It was just a real rider's section. A guy that was on it through there could make up a lot of time.

I haven't seen it yet but hearing about that really bums me out. The run up to the 'screw is such a cool portion, so flowing and gutsy. Guys who really have the track dialed make up so much time through there. Guys like Edwards, Hayden, Zemke and the Bostroms. It's really too bad they've leveled it, the rises and falls of the track are what set it apart from other tracks around the world.
 
i know they were gettin rid of the dip but i don't remember hearin about changing the entrance to the turn into the corkscrew. that sucks
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well i guess we'll see what the effects will be soon enough.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jun 30 2006, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>From what I have read the final changes being made to Laguna Seca are finishing up. These changes include further run off in turn one and six, a new media center and a layout change in the run from turn six to the corkscrew. From my understanding, the track has been leveled out so the enterance to the corkscrew is more level with better visability so it is no longer a blind enterance. The enterance was changed because of certain riders complaining of the blind nature of the corner. Nicky Hayden had the following to say about the change:

that sucks!! that was an outstanding feature of a superb track.. kinda takes something away from it now
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They always have to ruin a good thing..How can they change a huge part of the Character of that track? Quite a shame.
 
Its just sissies who dont like Hayden Edwards and Hopper shitting all over them through the corkscrew. It really gave Nicky and Colin some advantage last year, and it was a real test of skill. One of, if not, the best individual corner in the championship, but now it`s gone. Great.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jun 30 2006, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>From my understanding, the track has been leveled out so the enterance to the corkscrew is more level with better visability so it is no longer a blind enterance. The enterance was changed because of certain riders complaining of the blind nature of the corner.
But that's what makes the track so special!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 30 2006, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>One of, if not, the best individual corner in the championship, but now it`s gone. Great.
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corkscrew is still there & unchanged. it's just the entrace up to it seems. i not sure even if they changed the entrance turn. i think it might be just the runoff there they are changing.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jun 30 2006, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its just sissies who dont like Hayden Edwards and Hopper shitting all over them through the corkscrew. It really gave Nicky and Colin some advantage last year, and it was a real test of skill. One of, if not, the best individual corner in the championship, but now it`s gone. Great.
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My thoughts exactly.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Jul 1 2006, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>corkscrew is still there & unchanged. it's just the entrace up to it seems. i not sure even if they changed the entrance turn. i think it might be just the runoff there they are changing.
From the article at The 'Soup it sounds like the track itself has been changed. The uphill run from six to the screw has been leveled. I imagine they steepened the rise so it would flaten out earlier rather than peaking and dropping like it used to do.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jul 3 2006, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My thoughts exactly.
From the article at The 'Soup it sounds like the track itself has been changed. The uphill run from six to the screw has been leveled. I imagine they steepened the rise so it would flaten out earlier rather than peaking and dropping like it used to do.

Either that or they`ve cut a few meters off the top of the 'screw
 
I don't think they would make any alterations to the 'screw itself, they don't have the balls to change that. By the way, I like your new siggy. I read that at Soup the other day and had a good chuckle.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jul 3 2006, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I read that at Soup the other day and had a good chuckle.

They do some pretty good stuff over at that site. I only check it out every so often. I`d like to go there daily but I don`t really have time
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jun 30 2006, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>From what I have read the final changes being made to Laguna Seca are finishing up. These changes include further run off in turn one and six, a new media center and a layout change in the run from turn six to the corkscrew. From my understanding, the track has been leveled out so the enterance to the corkscrew is more level with better visability so it is no longer a blind enterance. The enterance was changed because of certain riders complaining of the blind nature of the corner. Nicky Hayden had the following to say about the change:



I haven't seen it yet but hearing about that really bums me out. The run up to the 'screw is such a cool portion, so flowing and gutsy. Guys who really have the track dialed make up so much time through there. Guys like Edwards, Hayden, Zemke and the Bostroms. It's really too bad they've leveled it, the rises and falls of the track are what set it apart from other tracks around the world.

And another annoying thing about these changes to the corkscrew are that, that is where Hayden & Edwards were making up their time last year, and its also one of the places where Rossi was loosing time. Which means it will level the playing field a bit more and give the europeans more of a chance! Which at Laguna i want the americans to win!!!!!!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RallyeRon @ Jul 5 2006, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And another annoying thing about these changes to the corkscrew are that, that is where Hayden & Edwards were making up their time last year, and its also one of the places where Rossi was loosing time. Which means it will level the playing field a bit more and give the europeans more of a chance! Which at Laguna i want the americans to win!!!!!!!
Track experience counts in that section and the Amercians and World Supers guys had it and the 125cc/250cc guys didn't. So everyone who couldn't figure it out complained saying it wasn't safe until someone changed it. It's really sad because what choice does the track have? Realistically, Laguna Seca has a gun to its head with Dorna saying "change it or we leave." From some interviews I've read there are many corners at Mugello that are much more dangerous than Laguna but no changes are made there.

Sorry that it's a bit of a rant but I'm very upset that they've changed the greatest portion of racetrack in the states and surely one of the greatest in the world. All because a few riders don't like it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jul 3 2006, 05:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't think they would make any alterations to the 'screw itself, they don't have the balls to change that.

I would hope not man...I personally love the entrance to the corkscrew how you have to run left to right into a dip and come up for the left hander blind....Nicky, Colin and even the newcomer to the track Vale had no problem negotiating the turn.....installling more runout at the top of the screw seems like a good plan because Bayliss and Melandri went down hard last year coming in too hot....
I'll be very interested to see what the likes of Pedrosa and Stoner will do on the screw....should be interesting......
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Jul 5 2006, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'll be very interested to see what the likes of Pedrosa and Stoner will do on the screw....should be interesting......
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As will I. Pedrosa, Stoner and RdP could provide some entertaining moments coming through there.
 
But they did make changes to the corkscrew itself they changed the entrance to it. They changed the best part of the track. It is that drive up the hill to the left turn the the quick right -left down into the turn that made it so exciting. I am really disappointed.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kentucky Kid @ Jul 5 2006, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But they did make changes to the corkscrew itself they changed the entrance to it. They changed the best part of the track. It is that drive up the hill to the left turn the the quick right -left down into the turn that made it so exciting. I am really disappointed.
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Not to worry...still a great tight track with lots of good action....just having the MotoGP clan back for another year is good enough for us Americans.....I can't wait to be there this year....my first live GP in all my years of watching.....fun stuff!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kentucky Kid @ Jul 5 2006, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I sooooo wanted to go but it's just not in the budget to go cross country.

I hear ya....that's what kept me out last year.....
 

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