KTM Super Duke Homologated for AMA competition

KTM homologates the KTM Super Duke for use in the AMA Daytona Sportbike class. It will debut at Laguna.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 30 2009, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>KTM homologates the KTM Super Duke for use in the AMA Daytona Sportbike class. It will debut at Laguna.

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Oh brother, another entry into this ....... child, moto st on steroids, abortion of a series. And the worst part is,at the end of each of their press releases,they have to remind me that this, is the premier racing series in North America. Kind of sad dont you think.

OMG. Now I know why I haven't even been watching this series.

+1 on "this ....... child, moto st on steroids, abortion of a series. " Well put.

I don't mind so much the Moto ST. It is what it is. It KNOWS it's not trying to be put over as the top series in the country over superbike. Unlike Daytona Sport Bike or whatever the hell this monstrosity of a series is called.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jun 30 2009, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh brother, another entry into this ....... child, moto st on steroids, abortion of a series. And the worst part is,at the end of each of their press releases,they have to remind me that this, is the premier racing series in North America. Kind of sad dont you think.

All they need is a BMW HP2 Sport and they'll have participation by every major sportsbike manufacturer in the world.

I'm not so much worried about how DSB looks. I think it is a hugely important class because it is the first class to throw displacement rules to the wind. DSB will allow small manufacturers to build exactly what they want while still being able to develop it on the race track. How much valuable info have Buell collected this season?

Despite the importance of DSB it CANNOT replace a properly run FX series. I support Edmondson's move to reduce costs and slow down SBK. Most of our racing circuits can't handle WSBK equipment, but most of our circuits can handle properly built 600cc race bike; especially with the new control tire. Somehow the 600cc "premiere class" format was lost completely and has been replaced by a ....... SS class, an experimental DSB class, and Superstock.

Edmondson must come to an agreement with the manufacturers to recreate an FX class for 2010. Even if the AMA offered little or no purse for the class, it is likely the manufacturers would still show up. I don't care if DMG maintains the eligible equipment list for FX, as long as they allow substantial internal engine modification and full suspension upgrades.

Interesting. How will this work out with no fairing on the front? Will they be allowed to fit an aftermarket body kit on it in order to make the bike aerodynamic (are there any such products for the Duke?)? I believe one of these raced in the series formerly known as Moto-St, it was naked then.

I still don't see the problem with the basic idea behind DSB. We could have a class of all 600s, like every other championship. Instead, we have the chance to see a Supersport class with a variety of makes. The Buell issue seems to have been corrected too.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Jul 1 2009, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Interesting. How will this work out with no fairing on the front? Will they be allowed to fit an aftermarket body kit on it in order to make the bike aerodynamic (are there any such products for the Duke?)? I believe one of these raced in the series formerly known as Moto-St, it was naked then.

I still don't see the problem with the basic idea behind DSB. We could have a class of all 600s, like every other championship. Instead, we have the chance to see a Supersport class with a variety of makes. The Buell issue seems to have been corrected too.
Its not that the class is not interesting. It would be fine as a support class. The problem is,its the so called Premier racing series in North America and that is sad. The largest motorcycle market in the world and we are stuck with a support class as our Premier series. Its sad , embarrassing and infuriating,all at the same time. I watch WSBK and WSS and just shake my head. They have found some of the best racing in the world without gutting performance,it can be done

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 1 2009, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its not that the class is not interesting. It would be fine as a support class. The problem is,its the so called Premier racing series in North America and that is sad. The largest motorcycle market in the world and we are stuck with a support class as our Premier series. Its sad , embarrassing and infuriating,all at the same time. I watch WSBK and WSS and just shake my head. They have found some of the best racing in the world without gutting performance,it can be done

Povol has just opened up a premier class of correct.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 1 2009, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its not that the class is not interesting. It would be fine as a support class. The problem is,its the so called Premier racing series in North America and that is sad. The largest motorcycle market in the world and we are stuck with a support class as our Premier series. Its sad , embarrassing and infuriating,all at the same time. I watch WSBK and WSS and just shake my head. They have found some of the best racing in the world without gutting performance,it can be done

I agree that the supposed "equal billing" with the American Superbikes (not Daytona!) is BS. As far as "gutting performance" goes, I really haven't noticed the few seconds lost just by watching.

Yeah, we can run SBK on how many tracks in the States, two? three?

Don't think running a national championship on three circuits would be very popular.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Parc Ferme @ Jul 7 2009, 08:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, we can run SBK on how many tracks in the States, two? three?

Don't think running a national championship on three circuits would be very popular.

I agree. I want SBK to return as soon as possible, but a lot of the guys in the paddock are being complete hypocrites. They want safety, but they want to return to WSBK spec equipment and prototype tires so they can race at circuits without proper runoff or safety fences.

Edmondson realized almost immediately that superbike was a lost cause due to safety issues. I'm really glad the big 4 didn't allow Edmondson to axe the liter bikes, but the superstock version we have now is about as good as US tracks allow. We can't even run 600s in the rain at every venue.