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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Sep 26 2008, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
now i know how "the festival of lights" feel when they get a convert...
(the aussies will know what i mean).
You're not singing "doesn't matter to me" by redgum at the moment are you?
now i know how "the festival of lights" feel when they get a convert...
(the aussies will know what i mean).
You're not singing "doesn't matter to me" by redgum at the moment are you?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Sep 26 2008, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You're not singing "doesn't matter to me" by redgum at the moment are you?
nope!
listening to the auditory genius of Kevin Bloody Wilson..
nope!
listening to the auditory genius of Kevin Bloody Wilson..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Reel Nauti @ Sep 26 2008, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nope. All were with Pons. He started out with the Pramac/Honda/Bridgestone mule, moved to Pons, replacing Ukawa in 2004 (Ukawa was replaced by Hayden at Repsol in 2003), then went to JIR on Bridgestones for 2005 and Michelins for 2006.
Boy was I wrong and right according to Crash.net: "JiR, which took two wins with Makoto Tamada during 2004..." That's where I was wrong.
But I was right too: "I am thinking of the 2003 season when my project brought Bridgestone into MotoGP alongside the Japanese rider Makoto Tamada. I remember with pleasure and pride a year of success in 2004, the year of the Camel Honda Team, with Tamada-san once more." Montiron/JIR was a part of Pons that year.
Boy was I wrong and right according to Crash.net: "JiR, which took two wins with Makoto Tamada during 2004..." That's where I was wrong.
But I was right too: "I am thinking of the 2003 season when my project brought Bridgestone into MotoGP alongside the Japanese rider Makoto Tamada. I remember with pleasure and pride a year of success in 2004, the year of the Camel Honda Team, with Tamada-san once more." Montiron/JIR was a part of Pons that year.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goldwing @ Sep 26 2008, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>JiR will part ways with Honda at the end of the season, after Honda chose not to accept JiR's MotoGP plans for the 2009 season, and will review the team's future, the team announced today.
Translation: It is impossible to win while HRC continue the failures of supplying only one man with a winning machine. We are not in the business to be grid filler from the start with inferior equipment. .... you very much HRC.
Translation: It is impossible to win while HRC continue the failures of supplying only one man with a winning machine. We are not in the business to be grid filler from the start with inferior equipment. .... you very much HRC.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Sep 27 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Translation: It is impossible to win while HRC continue the failures of supplying only one man with a winning machine. We are not in the business to be grid filler from the start with inferior equipment. .... you very much HRC.
That’s how I read it. I can’t imagine that the meeting they had was very pleasant. Would love to have been a fly on the wall. I think HRC’s review will revolve more around the threat of making them look bad than anything else. Dovi has looked ominous in the last few races and can you imagine a factory team consistently behind a subsidiary team. I think that Montirion has gone public with this to discredit HRC and I would imagine that he has already made up his mind, unfortunately.
That’s how I read it. I can’t imagine that the meeting they had was very pleasant. Would love to have been a fly on the wall. I think HRC’s review will revolve more around the threat of making them look bad than anything else. Dovi has looked ominous in the last few races and can you imagine a factory team consistently behind a subsidiary team. I think that Montirion has gone public with this to discredit HRC and I would imagine that he has already made up his mind, unfortunately.
That must have been a VERY lively meeting. Check this out:
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/new..._statement.html
"Pramac Racing would like to clarify that those two years [2003 and 2004] of projects were not developed by the current JiR Managing Director [Montiron], but by Pramac Racing, as Mr. Montiron was then a fellow worker of the Italian company owned by Pramac group. For this reason neither JiR nor Luca Montiron should take credit for the Bridgestone, Camel Honda and Makoto Tamada projects.
"We take this occasion to wish JiR a successful and satisfying future, whatever plans they will announce at the end of this season, <u>but we ask them not appropriate a story that is not theirs.</u>"
After acting as team manager for Tamada at Pramac, Montiron formed JiR around the Japanese in 2005, whom he continued to field until the end of 2006, albeit with no race wins.
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/new..._statement.html
"Pramac Racing would like to clarify that those two years [2003 and 2004] of projects were not developed by the current JiR Managing Director [Montiron], but by Pramac Racing, as Mr. Montiron was then a fellow worker of the Italian company owned by Pramac group. For this reason neither JiR nor Luca Montiron should take credit for the Bridgestone, Camel Honda and Makoto Tamada projects.
"We take this occasion to wish JiR a successful and satisfying future, whatever plans they will announce at the end of this season, <u>but we ask them not appropriate a story that is not theirs.</u>"
After acting as team manager for Tamada at Pramac, Montiron formed JiR around the Japanese in 2005, whom he continued to field until the end of 2006, albeit with no race wins.
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Out of Nowhere
Montiron ran a crap team and (to quote Motogpmatters) ruined the careers of both Tamada and Nakano. Aprilla better steer well clear of him.
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He's always reminded me of Al Capone, perhaps that's another reason to steer well clear of him?
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He's always reminded me of Al Capone, perhaps that's another reason to steer well clear of him?
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