Is too early thinking

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(citadina @ Dec 3 2007, 10:51 PM) [snapback]103266[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I agree with you there. I think the TC heavy Ducati would be more the problem, old school riders probably have issues with trusting to the bikes electric control and prefer to make the calls themselves. The Ducati, having the advanced TC system that it does would not really fit Rossi´s style I think.


thats probably true, because i read some comments from Swantz (forget) who tested all the bikes and said Rossi's was the most fun to ride.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(citadina @ Dec 3 2007, 11:51 PM) [snapback]103266[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I agree with you there. I think the TC heavy Ducati would be more the problem, old school riders probably have issues with trusting to the bikes electric control and prefer to make the calls themselves. The Ducati, having the advanced TC system that it does would not really fit Rossi´s style I think.


If ducati's TC is that good that you need to trust it 110% and stoner could do that without falling off once, then that would be a major reason for Stoners victory. Clearly a TC that outperforms the human every time and in any situation where all the others strugle would be a tremendeous advantage to use. But I don't for a second belive that. Quite the oposite, there are serious falws in the Ducati TC that make capirossi with his somewhat stiffened 250 style look like a slow rookie and he sure is neither. Stoner with a different style hit a sweetspot that simply works with the traction control as it is (or was). If anyone could copy that it's Rossi, but again, it's just ifs and more ifs.
No, they still have a long way on the TC and the rider still matter, even on the ducati and thank geeky for that.

On the matter Rossi going to Ducati I find the thought tempting, but as the situation is it's not likly to happen in 2009 unless something happen. People get injured in this sport and they get kicked out for not doing their job. It's also the slightest possibilty Rossi could accept a one rider team as the one he started his 500 career, and as he is for all pratical reasons in right now. But that's even more speculations, but what else can we do without any action around.
PS! Rossi didn't mind Stoner in the team but said it would be a bad career move for stoner, and boy was he right.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Babelfish @ Dec 4 2007, 11:44 PM) [snapback]103421[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
If anyone could copy that it's Rossi, but again, it's just ifs and more ifs.

PS! Rossi didn't mind Stoner in the team but said it would be a bad career move for stoner, and boy was he right.

I agree with both these points.

It probably wasn't clear that stoner had the ability to be the number one rider for a top factory team last year, but it was fairly clear he was temperamentally unsuited to being a number two rider. Trying to match rossi on a bike designed for him with a michelin front tyre would likely have been problematic in any case.

But Jeremy wanted him .... Rossi vetoed it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BarryMachine @ Dec 5 2007, 03:04 AM) [snapback]103431[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
But Jeremy wanted him .... Rossi vetoed it.

We have had this discussion before with me advancing this argument, and a fair point was made that burgess is rossi's crew chief and not the yamaha manager and hence not the one who signs new riders, although I don't think it unlikely that he would have been asked his opinion. He also originally said he would have liked to see yamaha sign casey in response to a question at a general interview rather than volunteering it himself.

I don't think it necessarily reflects badly on rossi even if he really did not want stoner, preferring to have a definite number two rider, as this certainly improves your chances of winning a world championship and has been the preference of many motorsport greats including michael schumacher.

Rossi has been pushing for his own team ever since he knew Colin was leaving the factory team, Colin is the only team mate i think Rossi ever liked and thats because Rossi owned him

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Dec 5 2007, 05:03 AM) [snapback]103437[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Rossi has been pushing for his own team ever since he knew Colin was leaving the factory team, Colin is the only team mate i think Rossi ever liked and thats because Rossi owned him


Always had the impression that he liked Hayden.

i guess only stoners bike had TC, they must of turned Loris TC off :rolleye:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Dec 5 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]103453[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
i guess only stoners bike had TC, they must of turned Loris TC off :rolleye:


looks like some one turned your TC (troll control) off too!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Dec 5 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]103453[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
i guess only stoners bike had TC, they must of turned Loris TC off :rolleye:


yes I think you must be right Pinky and "the real Men" out there turned their's off ..... or in the case of "the Godlike" ones ... actually said to their mechanics before each race ...... " stow the TC this time chaps ..... I won't be needing it here !! ....... I'm going commando!!" .

Denial

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Dec 5 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]103453[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
i guess only stoners bike had TC, they must of turned Loris TC off :rolleye:


Man you are truly silly, of course I am assuming that either
1. you are joking
2. you are trying to cause an arguement that you are incapable of following or participing intellegently in

In either case I will just say that you are entitled to your opinion (however silly our misguided) and proceed to read your posts and laugh.

Ciao.

pedrosa also turned off haydens TC during last season. its true. it happen

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Dec 5 2007, 09:44 PM) [snapback]103546[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
pedrosa also turned off haydens TC during last season. its true. it happen

Was this during the Estoril crash.
The same way my mates used to nick ignition keys at traffic lights in the early 80's

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(yamaka46 @ Dec 5 2007, 10:20 PM) [snapback]103548[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
The same way my mates used to nick ignition keys at traffic lights in the early 80's


Today we use the kill switch to slow friends down at the lights...even use the penduras (passager in english I think) to do it...or to distract the driver. Good times....and usually the only way I can beat my 1000cc buddies with my guys 600. I am soooo sneaky....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pinky @ Dec 5 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]103453[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
i guess only stoners bike had TC, they must of turned Loris TC off :rolleye:


Capirossi was racing more years before TC then he has with it... and most likely was racing before you were born