Is Bayliss' departure off subject?

Back to topic, Bayliss is definitely going to be missed. We have other threads on him, the man is amazing in my opinion, definitely someone I look up to. If you get a chance watch "Troy's Story" a documentary made on Bayliss, good stuff.

Now as far as who will take it next year, that is the great thing about WSBK, especially next year, we have no idea, there are no Rossi/Stoner types that you can almost make a sure bet on. Haga of course will be a favorite considering his speed/experience and of course now being on a championship winning bike/team. All we know at this point about Byrne, Spies, Sykes, Biaggi, etc is that they all put in some great lap times on bikes of varying unfamiliarity. Myself I am very excited about WSBK in '09. I will be attending the races again stateside at Miller, and as a bonus WSS will be coming as well.

I'm really going to miss Bayliss. When I first got introduced to road racing, I was a big fan of Nicky Hayden and Ben Bostrom. So my first real introduction to Bayliss was him replacing Bostrom a Infostrada Ducati and then Bayliss winning the title while BB won a race here and there and faded out. Then he moved to MotoGP where he was locked in a battle for RoY honors with Hayden. Needless to say, Troy Bayliss was not on the top of my favorite riders list.

I was not a fan of Bayliss until 2005. When he was sacked from Ducati, I realized that he had to work for every little bit. And when he rode the Honda you could just see him trying to strangle the speed out of it. I still remember being at Laguna that season and watching Bayliss around turn six and he would just wrestle the big 211 over and choke the bars until his front was a foot off the ground the whole climb to the Corkscrew. Since then he has been one of my favorite riders.

He could do amazing things on a motorcycle and his 2002, 2006 and 2008 seasons proved that. He's a family man and that transcends blood. He was comfortable with his crew and I think that had a lot to do with him winning those three titles. As was said earlier, I would have really liked to see what he could do for a whole season on the Ducati in GP with his crew of choice.

As for an heir to the throne, it's really wide open. The most predictable answer would be Haga on the 1098 and I think he will have a very good season. The Yamaha has been impressive in early testing and has a lot of potential yet and Spies and Sykes both have posted some very respectable times, I think they could very well be in the running. The same can be said for Biaggi and the new Aprilia project. Shakey has looked strong with Sterilgrada. I'd like to think Rea can make an impact. Xaus and Corser are both immensely fast riders and BMW takes racing very seriously so they could potentially surprise a lot of people.

It will be a great World Superbike season in 2009 and I am looking forward to it. Even it if is without Troy Bayliss.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Nov 12 2008, 06:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I like the story of Bayliss' comeback win in 2006. It makes me wish he could have a whole season on a factory duc with his SBK crew.

I think that race left me and a lot of other in no doubt as to his ability. He didn't go well on a struggling bike because finishing was secondary to being up front. On a good bike he was a race winner.

Actually that race is one of all time fav's simply because Rossi lost a title (it was getting boring year after year - change is good sometimes) Hayden won it and Bayliss got to put to bed the skeleton in his closet (motogp).

I kind of liked it how it was, he wins the WSBK championship, then brimming with the confidence that no doubt gave him he jumped on the gp machine and ran away with it.

Very Zen

Almost as good as a double race win on his final outing (having won the series).

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denali @ Nov 11 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Minus Tardozzi

What would be bad about Tardozzi being part of a Bayliss GP scenario? Do they clash a lot off track? Green and Martin frequently suggest Davide is always trying to get Troy to be more conservative. Is this why you think Tardozzi would be better left out?

Or are you just saying Tardozzi wasn't at Valencia in '06?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Nov 12 2008, 02:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What would be bad about Tardozzi being part of a Bayliss GP scenario? Do they clash a lot off track? Green and Martin frequently suggest Davide is always trying to get Troy to be more conservative. Is this why you think Tardozzi would be better left out?

Or are you just saying Tardozzi wasn't at Valencia in '06?
No, no..none of that I just don't like the man. He's definitely a great team boss, never really stood out as a rider - although I concede I'm too young to have an opinion on that. It was his treatment of Toseland, and the obvious bias towards Laconi at the time which irritated many, and he currently manages Fabrizio as he did Lanzi. I don't think a team boss should be managing his riders, added to which he's got an attitude I don't really like that's all.

Now you mention it, wasn't he was at Donington BSB watching Lavilla the weekend of Troys win at Valencia?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denali @ Nov 12 2008, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No, no..none of that I just don't like the man. He's definitely a great team boss, never really stood out as a rider - although I concede I'm too young to have an opinion on that. It was his treatment of Toseland, and the obvious bias towards Laconi at the time which irritated many, and he currently manages Fabrizio as he did Lanzi. I don't think a team boss should be managing his riders, added to which he's got an attitude I don't really like that's all.

Now you mention it, wasn't he was at Donington BSB watching Lavilla the weekend of Troys win at Valencia?

will admit i am not a big tardozzi fan but he was an integral part of the team that won titles for ducati with fogarty and bayliss. he might be a closet puig but without the dwarf fetish

seriously, he is a very driven man and good for that ducati team because he rubs people up the wrong way if it means getting results.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#41 @ Nov 11 2008, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>For sure. Especially when Jeb Bush elected his brother.

Ahh that's it. Jeb Bush stud ...... your girlfriend.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 11 2008, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm Australian and you're vulgar

Dude! When an Ozzie thinks you're vulgur - you're really down low on the food chain.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Nov 11 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm really going to miss Bayliss. When I first got introduced to road racing, I was a big fan of Nicky Hayden and Ben Bostrom. So my first real introduction to Bayliss was him replacing Bostrom a Infostrada Ducati and then Bayliss winning the title while BB won a race here and there and faded out. Then he moved to MotoGP where he was locked in a battle for RoY honors with Hayden. Needless to say, Troy Bayliss was not on the top of my favorite riders list.

I was not a fan of Bayliss until 2005. When he was sacked from Ducati, I realized that he had to work for every little bit. And when he rode the Honda you could just see him trying to strangle the speed out of it. I still remember being at Laguna that season and watching Bayliss around turn six and he would just wrestle the big 211 over and choke the bars until his front was a foot off the ground the whole climb to the Corkscrew. Since then he has been one of my favorite riders.

He could do amazing things on a motorcycle and his 2002, 2006 and 2008 seasons proved that. He's a family man and that transcends blood. He was comfortable with his crew and I think that had a lot to do with him winning those three titles. As was said earlier, I would have really liked to see what he could do for a whole season on the Ducati in GP with his crew of choice.

As for an heir to the throne, it's really wide open. The most predictable answer would be Haga on the 1098 and I think he will have a very good season. The Yamaha has been impressive in early testing and has a lot of potential yet and Spies and Sykes both have posted some very respectable times, I think they could very well be in the running. The same can be said for Biaggi and the new Aprilia project. Shakey has looked strong with Sterilgrada. I'd like to think Rea can make an impact. Xaus and Corser are both immensely fast riders and BMW takes racing very seriously so they could potentially surprise a lot of people.

It will be a great World Superbike season in 2009 and I am looking forward to it. Even it if is without Troy Bayliss.

Somehow the combination of Biaggi's age, lack of results in 2008 and the fact that it's essentially going to be a shakedown season on a new bike tells me Biaggi will be lucky to be mid-pack. Despite their talent - I don't see Xaus and Corser being all that competitive on the Beemers. Despite their budget and their car racing heritage - the only place they've been competitive on bikes has been in low-level club racing. Tho it would be exciting if they did surprise us. I'd sure welcome a fourth (competitive) marque/element in WSB. Plus the Beemer race bikes are a weird combination of racer cool and really ugly. If they can manage to go more towards the racer cool side of the proposition - it would mean - over time - fewer hideous BMWs on the street.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Nov 12 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ahh that's it. Jeb Bush stud ...... your girlfriend.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Nov 12 2008, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dude! When an Ozzie thinks you're vulgur - you're really down low on the food chain.

i thought we're done with this now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Nov 12 2008, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i thought we're done with this now.

Done!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Nov 11 2008, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Back to topic, Bayliss is definitely going to be missed. We have other threads on him, the man is amazing in my opinion, definitely someone I look up to. If you get a chance watch "Troy's Story" a documentary made on Bayliss, good stuff.

Now as far as who will take it next year, that is the great thing about WSBK, especially next year, we have no idea, there are no Rossi/Stoner types that you can almost make a sure bet on. Haga of course will be a favorite considering his speed/experience and of course now being on a championship winning bike/team. All we know at this point about Byrne, Spies, Sykes, Biaggi, etc is that they all put in some great lap times on bikes of varying unfamiliarity. Myself I am very excited about WSBK in '09. I will be attending the races again stateside at Miller, and as a bonus WSS will be coming as well.

Shinya Nakano will win the championship.

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