Indy 500 accident - Who's at fault?

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• May 27, 2008

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Who's at fault for this pit accident?

Danica Patrick or Ryan Briscoe?

 

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Tom

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• May 27, 2008

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Is it not the teams decision to release their driver into a space that actually exists?

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 27 2008, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is it not the teams decision to release their driver into a space that actually exists?

Yes! But, if you see, the driver of the blue car, Danica could have easily have slowed to give Briscoe the space. She didn't have anyone close enough behind her to make any difference.

 

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Tom

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ May 27 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes! But, if you see, the driver of the blue car, Danica could have easily have slowed to give Briscoe the space. She didn't have anyone close enough behind her to make any difference.

Of course both people could have taken actions that did not lead to an accident, but a system where drivers pull out regardless of whats coming leaving other drivers to emergency stop in the pitlane is far more complicated then having a team member just look for a space.

 

yamaka46

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• May 27, 2008

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 27 2008, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Of course both people could have taken actions that did not lead to an accident, but a system where drivers pull out regardless of whats coming leaving other drivers to emergency stop in the pitlane is far more complicated then having a team member just look for a space.
Agree. And to have to do an emergency stop in the pit lane is dangerous - hence pit lane speed limits. In F1 it'd the job of the lollipop man - is there an equivalent for the Indy 500? The mirrors are insufficient to tell the driver the full story hence it should be down to the team as to when a driver is allowed to leave his box. As far as who's fault this incident was, Patrick could have slowed, but at the end of the day she probably wasn't looking for cars exiting their pit boxes, nor should she have been expected to do so. Hence it was the fault of Briscoe's team IMO.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ May 27 2008, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Agree. And to have to do an emergency stop in the pit lane is dangerous - hence pit lane speed limits. In F1 it'd the job of the lollipop man - is there an equivalent for the Indy 500? The mirrors are insufficient to tell the driver the full story hence it should be down to the team as to when a driver is allowed to leave his box. As far as who's fault this incident was, Patrick could have slowed, but at the end of the day she probably wasn't looking for cars exiting their pit boxes, nor should she have been expected to do so. Hence it was the fault of Briscoe's team IMO.

Yes, but the guy is the right front tire changer, and in Ryan Briscoe's case, his team engineer which is Roger Penske. They make the call. The lollipop man just guides the car in.

 

Jumkie

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• May 27, 2008

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ May 27 2008, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who's at fault for this pit accident?

Danica Patrick or Ryan Briscoe?
Dude, this is a no brainer. Briscoe and his crew ...... up.

 

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kieran

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• May 27, 2008

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Did anyone watch it?

 

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michaelm

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• May 27, 2008

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Hard to see how it can be anybody's fault except briscoe's crew and him to a lesser extent; I presume thay have speed limiters in the pits as in F1 so danica can't have been going too fast and she was coming in rather than trying to pass him in the pits?

 

Haga2

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• May 28, 2008

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For me from that video it looks like Ryan Briscoe and his team caused the incident as he should have waited until there was space to exit his pit box.

 

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• May 28, 2008

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Another question:

Do you condon her actions after the incident? That interview is just a part of what did happen, but she did go to the Penkse pit of the Briscoe team during the race.