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How HRC became PRC (Puig Racing Corp)

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by julian ryder, on the ground in Malaysia
Thursday, October 16, 2008

I assume that by now you've all read Alberto Puig's astonishing attempt at character assassination of Nicky Hayden on the official MotoGP site.

How, you may ask yourself, does such a tirade end up on the official website of the Championship? The answer lies in an interview Nicky gave to the important Spanish daily paper El Pais; it was headlined 'Pedrosa's agent runs Honda.' Nicky made plain his respect for Honda and the work his team puts in but regretted in quite sober terms the friction caused not by Dani but by Puig.

On reading this, Puig didn't contact El Pais, he rung the guys who write motogp.com. That would have been an internal phone call as Puig has an office in Dorna's HQ from which he runs the MotoGP Academy that does a good job bringing on the next generation of racers with the help of Red Bull and KTM.

I understand that Puig would also have seen the copy before it went live--so he can't claim he was misquoted. Nicky was asked about it today, and at first refused to elaborate. Then he decided to make sure we understood what he had said. First he made it clear that he thinks that Puig runs the team, that's what he said to El Pais and that's what he meant to say. He doesn't give a stuff about the wall down the pit. As for Puig's frankly barking suggestion that Nicky was upset about losing access to Dani's data, Nicky told the pre-event press conference that he hadn't seen any data from that side of the pit for many a month, let alone used it but that 'He [Dani] sees everybody's data.'

The thing that exercises my mind is this is what Nicky Hayden, a guy you know will always do the right thing, is saying while he's still a Honda rider. What's he going to say when he's free to say what really happened?

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Oct 16 2008, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>On reading this, Puig didn't contact El Pais, he rung the guys who write motogp.com. That would have been an internal phone call as Puig has an office in Dorna's HQ...



What's he going to say when he's free to say what really happened?
I thought the "internal phone call" bit was funny and a nice little dig. But really, I think he is hoping too much about what Nicky might say in the aftermath of his departure. Like Frosty said in another thread, its not Nicky's style. He has already said he is sad to leave the guys from his team and is very thankful for the opportunity Honda gave him. I don't think this graciousness will change much.

Puig exposed himself once again what an unprofessional sad pathetic man he is, and the word is out without the help of Nicky.
 
Nicky is too nice and professional enough not to lash out at Puig's comments but I would've liked him to have let rip just this once.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Oct 16 2008, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I thought the "internal phone call" bit was funny and a nice little dig. But really, I think he is hoping too much about what Nicky might say in the aftermath of his departure. Like Frosty said in another thread, its not Nicky's style. He has already said he is sad to leave the guys from his team and is very thankful for the opportunity Honda gave him. I don't think this graciousness will change much.

Puig exposed himself once again what an unprofessional sad pathetic man he is, and the word is out without the help of Nicky.
Agreed, Nicky is no dummy. In this sport you just never know what will happen and who will be changing seats from year to year. IT is very possible that he could wind up with them again if puig gets fired and Dani winds up with another team. I am sure from a marketing standpoint Honda is not happy about letting Nicky go but due to the current climate of the team they have to in order to make Dani happy. Not to mention Repsol who wants a spanish champ in the worst way.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Oct 16 2008, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not to mention Repsol who wants a spanish champ in the worst way.
right about now, I think honda would like any champ, with their luck here lately.
How long do you think honda will allow HRC "puig" to continue as is to continue down the path they are going.
Loosing Rossi, and Hayden, two extremely popular riders.
IMO, puigs time may be running out. Not next year or even the year after, but they (he) wont last long IMO if things don't turn around.
Just my two pesos, so no one flame me for my opinions
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kngadrok @ Oct 16 2008, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>right about now, I think honda would like any champ, with their luck here lately.
How long do you think honda will allow HRC "puig" to continue as is to continue down the path they are going.
Loosing Rossi, and Hayden, two extremely popular riders.
IMO, puigs time may be running out. Not next year or even the year after, but they (he) wont last long IMO if things don't turn around.
Just my two pesos, so no one flame me for my opinions
Yeah and I also think that we could see a new sponsor on a honda if they get sick of the whole situation. Puig has made a mess of the whole situation and I would bet after his comments is being looked at very closely. Honda wants to give their sponsor a champ well, Nicky was and before him it was Vale. Dani is very inconsistant and has everyones data which you would think would give him a bit of an edge. Puig is got to be close to being on his way out. It wouldn't surprise me that halfway through next year he and Dani won't be there. Plus honda will have a new sponsor lined up IF they don't already. I think Dovi is going to be a great choice for that team and Dani is still going to have all of HIS data.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Oct 16 2008, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah and I also think that we could see a new sponsor on a honda if they get sick of the whole situation. Puig has made a mess of the whole situation and I would bet after his comments is being looked at very closely. Honda wants to give their sponsor a champ well, Nicky was and before him it was Vale. Dani is very inconsistant and has everyones data which you would think would give him a bit of an edge. Puig is got to be close to being on his way out. It wouldn't surprise me that halfway through next year he and Dani won't be there. Plus honda will have a new sponsor lined up IF they don't already. I think Dovi is going to be a great choice for that team and Dani is still going to have all of HIS data.
no arguments there my friend
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"Yeah and I also think that we could see a new sponsor on a honda if they get sick of the whole situation."

I've been thinking the same thing. All his public bad-mouthing and poor sportsmanship and the
the antipathy towards Honda that it generates - is particularly antithetical to the whole
"Keep-it-under-your-hat" code of Japanese culture. The kind of crap is doubtless
really distasteful to the stiff-upper-lip types at Honda. I haven't a clue as to what their
contractual agreements are with Puig-bag, but if the right person came along - I'm sure
they'd jump ship in a flat second. But Repsol is ....... huge and that kind of marketing
network and humongus budget won't be easy to replace.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Oct 16 2008, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"Yeah and I also think that we could see a new sponsor on a honda if they get sick of the whole situation."

I've been thinking the same thing. All his public bad-mouthing and poor sportsmanship and the
the antipathy towards Honda that it generates - is particularly antithetical to the whole
"Keep-it-under-your-hat" code of Japanese culture. The kind of crap is doubtless
really distasteful to the stiff-upper-lip types at Honda. I haven't a clue as to what their
contractual agreements are with Puig-bag, but if the right person came along - I'm sure
they'd jump ship in a flat second. But Repsol is ....... huge and that kind of marketing
network and humongus budget won't be easy to replace.
It would be nice if you where right, but I think $$$$ trumps "culture". Repsol is leaving only when they say. They are intrenched in MotoGP and they have money to burn. The Japs are not gonna show anybody the door as long as they are paying the bills.
 
Then we're in agreement. That's why I said: But Repsol is ....... huge and that kind of marketing
network and humongus budget won't be easy to replace. As for the actual chances of Honda splitting with Repsol . . . I was just spinning my wheels. While I'm not a fan of cancer, I gotta say I miss big tobacco in GP.
 
excuses, excuses and more excuses from gayden's brigade. predictable and boring.

ryder - that fat pig haven't a clue about anything.
 
I think we're going to have to wait for a book after Nicky retires to hear his whole side of the story. I doubt he's going to say too much after Puig's latest tirade whilst he's still in the paddock (as a rider).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Oct 16 2008, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>by julian ryder, on the ground in Malaysia
... The answer lies in an interview Nicky gave to the important Spanish daily paper El Pais; it was headlined 'Pedrosa's agent runs Honda.' Nicky made plain his respect for Honda and the work his team puts in but regretted in quite sober terms the friction caused not by Dani but by Puig. Would be great to see the entire translated version of Nicky's interview here..
 
Motogp.com:

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Hayden+...mpetitive+again

When asked by journalists about a recent interview he gave to the Spanish press about Repsol Honda´s team structure and the response it prompted in Alberto Puig´s interview last week on motogp.com, Hayden commented, `I don´t really want to get into a catfight and go back and forth with words. I am not even sure what I was quoted as saying once it got translated.´

`I think I said something about (Alberto) Puig running our team and running HRC at the moment and I really believe that. I do think (Kazuhiko) Yamano has done a great job as a team manager because he is in a tough spot. I know he´s got a lot of heat coming at him from all directions.´
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27 @ Oct 16 2008, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>excuses, excuses and more excuses from gayden's brigade. predictable and boring.

ryder - that fat pig haven't a clue about anything.


What is your problem? Are you really that afraid that Nicky might steal some of you boy #27's thunder next season.

I don't think I read all your fresh 18 posts but the ones I did read were just fishing and insulting people and had very little focus on Casey. One dose'nt have to ponder very hard to realise what your motif for COMING BACK is. Its obvious its not to support Casey but to get some back at Hayden fans who were glad to see you lose the stupid bet you made against yourself and in the process made you look like a complete ...

Go back to the kiddies corner where its fun to think your being cool and witty by talking trash with so little creativity and intelligence
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R1 SF @ Oct 17 2008, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What is your problem? Are you really that afraid that Nicky might steal some of you boy #27's thunder next season.

I don't think I read all your fresh 18 posts but the ones I did read were just fishing and insulting people and had very little focus on Casey. One dose'nt have to ponder very hard to realise what your motif for COMING BACK is. Its obvious its not to support Casey but to get some back at Hayden fans who were glad to see you lose the stupid bet you made against yourself and in the process made you look like a complete ...

Go back to the kiddies corner where its fun to think your being cool and witty by talking trash with so little creativity and intelligence
See RI SF, why Pinkertoon is so "entertaining" ?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R1 SF @ Oct 17 2008, 03:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What is your problem? Are you really that afraid that Nicky might steal some of you boy #27's thunder next season.

sure... like melandri this year
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and that melandri outclassed hayden when he was at honda.


i don't need to be afraid until rossi join ducati. only he have a chance against casey on same bike. signing hayden is just pathetic ducati attempt whose goal is increase sales on usa market
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R1 SF @ Oct 17 2008, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What is your problem? Are you really that afraid that Nicky might steal some of you boy #27's thunder next season.

I don't think I read all your fresh 18 posts but the ones I did read were just fishing and insulting people and had very little focus on Casey. One dose'nt have to ponder very hard to realise what your motif for COMING BACK is. Its obvious its not to support Casey but to get some back at Hayden fans who were glad to see you lose the stupid bet you made against yourself and in the process made you look like a complete ...

Go back to the kiddies corner where its fun to think your being cool and witty by talking trash with so little creativity and intelligence

I don't understand why the Mods haven't just banned his arse and his IP address.
Doesn't debate or discuss anything, just trolls and fishes for a bite.
Now if each and everyone of us add him to our ignore list he will see that no one cares what he thinks and piss off like he promised he would do.

In fact I'll add him to ignore right now.
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