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Honda promises Dovizioso equal status

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Honda promises Dovizioso equal status

By Michele Lostia and Matt Beer Wednesday, September 16th 2009, 09:32 GMT

Andrea DoviziosoHonda bosses have promised that Andrea Dovizioso will receive equal status to Dani Pedrosa in the factory MotoGP team next year after re-signing both riders for 2010.

When Pedrosa was paired with Nicky Hayden from 2006 to 2008, there were suggestions that the American was being marginalised and the bike developed to suit his Spanish team-mate.

Honda always played such talk down, and HRC vice-president Shuhei Nakamoto has insisted that Dovizioso is not regarded as a number two rider and will play an equal role in 2010 development with Pedrosa.

"Dovizioso and Pedrosa will have the same position inside the team," Nakamoto told Motosprint. "All we think of is to win, and in order to do that we need a better bike.

"We work together with the two riders, both of them, because that's in everyone's interest.

"It's not true that we have worked just for Pedrosa up to now. We have two riders and we use the work and the information from both of them. Andrea, too, is very useful for development work, and he will be more and more so."

Nakamoto also said that the status of Pedrosa's high-profile manager Alberto Puig with the team would change.

"Puig will stay in the team, but his role will change," he said. "He will have an organisational role: he will organise Dani's staff, but he won't deal with technical issues.

"Puig takes part in meetings, but it's not up to him to take decisions. Our relationship isn't so bad: we aren't friends, but it's not that bad."


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Interesting article.

Dovi hasn't proven to be in the front group and has been a very big dissappointment. In 250's he was consistently close to Lorenzo on insuperior machinery. He was also very impressive on the Scott Honda in his rookie season. I expected him to be closer to the front group by now. Even Hayden appears to be making more progress.

The rest of the article is complete PR rubbish. Anybody that has two eyeballs and a lick of any sense knows that the bike was made for Pedrosa. Hell, even the rules were skewed in his direction. More of the same from HRC. .... em
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Sep 16 2009, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Interesting article.

Dovi hasn't proven to be in the front group and has been a very big dissappointment. In 250's he was consistently close to Lorenzo on insuperior machinery. He was also very impressive on the Scott Honda in his rookie season. I expected him to be closer to the front group by now. Even Hayden appears to be making more progress.
I agree with you that I would have expected him to be closer to the top. Hayden has had a loooooong way to go and is just now getting to even challenge the likes of Dovi so I wouldn't use him as a measurement.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>The rest of the article is complete PR rubbish. Anybody that has two eyeballs and a lick of any sense knows that the bike was made for Pedrosa. Hell, even the rules were skewed in his direction. More of the same from HRC. .... em
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And the rest of the post are complete rubbish or paranoid ramblings if you will.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Sep 16 2009, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The rest of the article is complete PR rubbish. Anybody that has two eyeballs and a lick of any sense knows that the bike was made for Pedrosa. Hell, even the rules were skewed in his direction. More of the same from HRC. .... em
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Totally agree, Hayden got pissed on by HRC after his 2007 season. I wass pretty pissed with HRC's attitude, considering Nicky was on crap ... tires, and on a totally redesigned bike (that was total crap compared to Casey's Desmo). Hell him having to test and refine the pneumatic motor while Pedro got treated as top dog in 2008 was friggin crazy. Sorry HRC has show time and time again how they treat performance makers for their company. If Honda hadn't invested so much time and money in developing the bike for Pedrobot, then I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have resigned him for 2010.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Sep 16 2009, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And the rest of the post are complete rubbish or paranoid ramblings if you will.
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Oh that's right, you're still one of the few ostriches that thinks the 07 Honda was built without Peders in mind. Both feet in reality? NO.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OahuGrown @ Sep 16 2009, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>... having to test and refine the pneumatic motor while Pedro got treated as top dog in 2008 was friggin crazy.


If Honda hadn't invested so much time and money in developing the bike for Pedrobot, then I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have resigned him for 2010.
Agree. Not only that, but had they dropped their silly idea that a horse jockey would be their silver bullet advantage for years to come, they could have used the 07/08 years to develop a bike with an honest hard working developer like Hayden who wouldn't throw them under the bus blaming them for Peder's own ineptitude.

The bike looks good enough right now, yet Peders has issue them an ultimatum--strong words from an already signed rider. Big mouth, small body, and even smaller character.

Dovi is a nice guy, lucky for him he's Italian (needed clout), or Puig & co. would have ate him alive. But having said that, I agree with Sacky, Dovi hasn't exactly set the world ablaze as the Hayden detractors like Babel-Figs lead us to believe (you're a newbee so you probably don't get the joke, but its a play on babel & Migsangel, our resident American/Hayden haters).

Anyway, welcome to the forum.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Sep 17 2009, 07:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Agree. Not only that, but had they dropped their silly idea that a horse jockey would be their silver bullet advantage for years to come, they could have used the 07/08 years to develop a bike with an honest hard working developer like Hayden who wouldn't throw them under the bus blaming them for Peder's own ineptitude.

The bike looks good enough right now, yet Peders has issue them an ultimatum--strong words from an already signed rider. Big mouth, small body, and even smaller character.

Dovi is a nice guy, lucky for him he's Italian (needed clout), or Puig & co. would have ate him alive. But having said that, I agree with Sacky, Dovi hasn't exactly set the world ablaze as the Hayden detractors like Babel-Figs lead us to believe (you're a newbee so you probably don't get the joke, but its a play on babel & Migsangel, our resident American/Hayden haters).

Anyway, welcome to the forum.
Very interesting, the fact that HRC is using the words 'Riders will have equal treatment' is a little odd, they shouldn't really have to quantify this, it should happen anyway right? just like CS and Marco at Ducati, Hayden and Pedders unequal treatment has led to the hole HRC has been in for a long time now, which Ducati has recently jumped into.
A lesson to be learned, focusing on the one rider for the potential of the win, has only proved disaster for both teams mentioned above in this techno age.
Nicky can run at the sharp end, anyone who says he can't is full of ..... Give him the bike and he'll get there, when VR retires I will put my money on Nicky being Jorge biggest rival if he gets the support he needs, and works on that sand pit temper!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Sep 16 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hayden has had a loooooong way to go and is just now getting to even challenge the likes of Dovi so I wouldn't use him as a measurement.
Dovi didn't have to reinvent the wheel at Ducati either.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Sep 16 2009, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nicky can run at the sharp end, anyone who says he can't is full of ..... Give him the bike and he'll get there, when VR retires I will put my money on Nicky being Jorge biggest rival if he gets the support he needs, and works on that sand pit temper!
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You don't know how high you've just risen in my book.
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Assuming that Hayden is still around when Rossi retires (which could definitely be debatable) and he gets the Ducati sorted for himself, he could run with the boys on occasion. I'm having a hard time gauging him in this era, it'd be nice to see him run on a bike properly sorted. Next year will be the telltale year. A whole year adjusting to the team and bike and a whole year and winter of input to the GP10. If he can't race for wins next season, I don't know if he can on an 800.
 
Always interests me (and has been discussed recently in another thread) when a factory promises 'equal' treatment as it alludes to the cirrent treatment not being 'equal' and as Talpa suggests, 'equal' treatment should be expected.

Oh and Talpa, I aint gonna bite mate.
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Gaz
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Sep 17 2009, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Always interests me (and has been discussed recently in another thread) when a factory promises 'equal' treatment as it alludes to the cirrent treatment not being 'equal' and as Talpa suggests, 'equal' treatment should be expected.

Oh and Talpa, I aint gonna bite mate.
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Gaz

c'mon I know you want to, we've had some real fun of late!!!
 
HRC's well aware that whatever happens in 2010, it's likely that Dani will leave them at the end of the season so might as well start the PR gloss early.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Sep 16 2009, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Our relationship isn't so bad: we aren't friends, but it's not that bad."[/b]

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I spend a lot of time in Japan - let me translate this:
"We think he is a ....... tool, and will not cop any more of his ...."

I think there is a power struggle going on in HRC. Probably Puig was pulling the strings behind Pedro's ultimatum.
 
Great now puig has a glove to keep his left hand warm too. I hope they start a puppeteer show for the kids like Sesame Street. Does dovi have to sell his soul to be given this opportunity, to work along side satan himself?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Sep 16 2009, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Very interesting, the fact that HRC is using the words 'Riders will have equal treatment' is a little odd, they shouldn't really have to quantify this, it should happen anyway right? just like CS and Marco at Ducati, Hayden and Pedders unequal treatment has led to the hole HRC has been in for a long time now, which Ducati has recently jumped into.
A lesson to be learned, focusing on the one rider for the potential of the win, has only proved disaster for both teams mentioned above in this techno age.
Nicky can run at the sharp end, anyone who says he can't is full of ..... Give him the bike and he'll get there, when VR retires I will put my money on Nicky being Jorge biggest rival if he gets the support he needs, and works on that sand pit temper!
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What did u put in ur cereal to make u sound so sensible?
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(except for that last part) err